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#1 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:34 PM

NOTE: I didn't see tonight's attempt, but it sounded similar to what I will mention.

 

This is more of an observation than a critique (the guy has scored more shootout goals than anyone).

 

But has anyone noticed that Pav has kind of regulated himself to using the same move everytime in shootouts? He either finishes backhand or pulls it to his quick forehand move.

 

For a guy as creative as Pav, I'm kind of surprised he uses one move (with 2 finishes?) so much...

 

This is the backhand:

 

And the forehand:

 

 



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:35 PM

He does so because it works. The results speak for themselves.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:36 PM

It's really effective, so why change it up? Also, it seems like if Datsyuk doesn't score it's because he missed the net. I can only think of a few instances where a save was actually made on him.

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:40 PM

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:41 PM

It does seem tho that recently he hasn't been scoring much. I don't know the stats myself but I would bet that he is around 20 percent in the last couple seasons
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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:42 PM

It's not the All Star game shootout where you win for style points.  He has the most shootout goals all time in the nhl so i'd leave it up to him to decide which move to use.

 

Here's the nhl page for shootout stats:

 

http://www.nhl.com/i...wName=shootouts

 

He was 28% last year and 45% the year before.


Edited by nosyt612, 21 October 2013 - 09:46 PM.


#7 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:45 PM

It does seem tho that recently he hasn't been scoring much. I don't know the stats myself but I would bet that he is around 20 percent in the last couple seasons

 

I think this point is what prompted me to ask.

 

It seems like he has been scoring less as of late. Goalies seem to be expecting it? I dunno...



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:47 PM

That video of the backhand isn't really a move he's used a lot. 

 

I have no problem with him using his most effective moves most of the time. In fact, that forehand move is close to unstoppable when he executes well, so imo he should just go with that 9 times out of 10. 

 

But last season or two he's had too many lazy SO attempts, like tonight. Can't ask him to score everytime, but he's got the ability to. 



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:50 PM

time to trade him...

 

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:50 PM

What about this one?

 


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:51 PM

Goalies do study shootout moves, so I can see him needing to switch it up a little.  That quick move on the forehand is hard to stop because it's so fast.  

 

If he misses again next time, I'd have Cleary be the first shooter instead.  


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:53 PM

Goalies do study shootout moves, so I can see him needing to switch it up a little.  That quick move on the forehand is hard to stop because it's so fast.  

 

If he misses again next time, I'd have Cleary be the first shooter instead.  

 

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:02 PM

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:11 PM

When dats misses we lose - when dats scores we win. this is the trend more often than not in the shootout. he shoots first and sets the tone. 


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:05 PM

and he beat niemi but whiffed on the backhand. so it works.

but holy s*** berts attempt tonight was crazy, great move, great save. exciting.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:52 PM

I see it as a positive. Sure its only two moves but his approach and movement is the same so the goaltender really has no idea what hes going to do.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 05:37 AM

Mick and Ken (well, mostly Ken, I guess) said he's the all-time leader in shootout goals, with 33. Right behind him: Parise, with 32.


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Posted 22 October 2013 - 06:48 AM

Even when pav misses the net, he makes sure to at least make the goalie look stoopid first :P

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 07:07 AM

Datsyuk either scores or misses. He hardly ever gets blocked and usually the goalie is left out of position. I think he is doing fine. Just needs to hit the net more. 


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Posted 22 October 2013 - 08:24 AM

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