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#1 Son of a Wing

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 11:39 PM

Versteeg & Lefebrve

 

FOR

 

Hayes & Olsen

 

*Florida is retaining half of Versteegs salary.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 11:45 PM

Caphit was 4.4m and is now 2.2m with two years remaining past this season.  That's a lot of money for Florida to pay to make a guy go away.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:42 AM

Caphit was 4.4m and is now 2.2m with two years remaining past this season.  That's a lot of money for Florida to pay to make a guy go away.

 

Hate so say it, but I like that deal a lot for the Blackhawks. If Versteeg can be a good player again, they just got a top 6 forward for 2,2 million caphit if not, low risk and they can add him to the third line.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:29 AM

The Blackhawks keep finding ways to get better. This is an absoulte robbery on there behalf
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Posted 15 November 2013 - 03:56 AM

Wow. 

 

And the strong get stronger. 

 

Versteeg IS the Florida offense. 

 

 

Hope Holland is taking notes. 




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Posted 15 November 2013 - 04:38 AM

Florida is a blackhole for players and their careers.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:25 AM

Wait a minute, wasn't it Chicago who was supposed to be in cap hell, not us? Bizarro World


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 06:43 AM

The Blackhawks continue to get better, we continue to get worse. And all in the name of "Youth! Homegrown talent! The tough business decisions you have to make in order to stay competitive in the cap era!"

 

Shove it, Ken.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 08:05 AM

Dale Tallon's vision of "Chicago South" has not gotten off to the start he was hoping for. 

Once again, Bob McKenzie shows everyone that he knows his stuff. More to come, no doubt.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 08:13 AM

So when you guys say Florida will pay half of Versteegs salary (In terms of real dollars), that doesnt mean the Hawks only get half his cap hit too right?

 

That would be a nutty rule no matter what teams are involved.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 08:31 AM

So when you guys say Florida will pay half of Versteegs salary (In terms of real dollars), that doesnt mean the Hawks only get half his cap hit too right?

 

That would be a nutty rule no matter what teams are involved.

 

If it'd benefit the 'hawks, that's probably how it is.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:21 AM

Amazing. How do other teams get these steals? I get the impression nobody will trade with us, otherwise why do we keep missing out on things like this? If we don't get anyone from a team like Florida or Buffalo, who are pretty desperate, I'll be disappointed.
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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:31 AM

Heard the plan is to play him on the third line. Chicago adds some good depth/a familiar face (to coaches & players) for a reasonable price. good deal for them imo.

So when you guys say Florida will pay half of Versteegs salary (In terms of real dollars), that doesnt mean the Hawks only get half his cap hit too right?
 
That would be a nutty rule no matter what teams are involved.


I'm pretty sure it's half the cap hit as well.. can't look for a source right now but I'll check later if no one finds one by then.

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:44 AM

So when you guys say Florida will pay half of Versteegs salary (In terms of real dollars), that doesnt mean the Hawks only get half his cap hit too right?
 
That would be a nutty rule no matter what teams are involved.


Yep, per the new cba teams can retain up to half the cap hit in a trade

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:58 AM

Amazing. How do other teams get these steals? I get the impression nobody will trade with us, otherwise why do we keep missing out on things like this? If we don't get anyone from a team like Florida or Buffalo, who are pretty desperate, I'll be disappointed.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if no one wants to make a (fair) trade with us. That's probably what comes with being generally regarded as THE BEST GM EVAR for 10+ years. I mean, think about it - how many GMs have probably had their fans screaming, "Why can't you be like Ken Holland?! It works for the Red Wings, so why not us?!" for God-knows-how-long? Maybe now they get to stick it to Mr. BEST GM EVAR and his oh-so-special Red Wings?

 

Or maybe Holland is just lazy and complacent. Not that I could necessarily blame him...

 

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:01 AM

DId you guys think that maybe just maybe Holland can't participate in these deals because WE DON'T HAVE CAP ROOM.  We are over the cap when everyone is healthy, we are trying to shed salary not add salary.  And no, no one wants Tootoo so don't add him to a hypothetical deal.  He's cleared waivers, he has negative value.  And Sammy isn't going anywhere given his NTC.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:01 AM

chicago working to make a cup winning team better

 

holland sitting on his thumbs after re-signing useless vets and burying nhl-ready players in the minors

 

quite the contrast



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:01 AM

Yep, per the new cba teams can retain up to half the cap hit in a trade

 

 

If thats the case it blows my mind that the wings werent able to trade away one of our players with only 1 year remaining on their contact, eat half the cap hit, but still open up room for other guys.

 

Because when we waive a player, we eat more than 50% of their hit right? 

 

I just have a hard time believing we couldnt get a draft pick for tootoo/eaves, even if just a low one.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:11 AM

Florida is a blackhole for players and their careers.

 

I consider myself a bit of a Panthers fan. Been casually following them on-and-off for awhile now.

 

So I can say, with a bit of authority, that you...are absolutely correct.

 

Following the Panthers really makes you appreciate things like "winning culture," "team pride," "shouldering expectations" - things that we as Red Wings fans take for granted but which really do mean something.

 

No matter how good you are, if you're a Florida Panther...you'd probably be much better virtually anywhere else. (Imagine Zetterberg as fat and lazy.)

 

Credit where it's due, though: they've got a great young core to build around.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:18 AM

DId you guys think that maybe just maybe Holland can't participate in these deals because WE DON'T HAVE CAP ROOM.  We are over the cap when everyone is healthy, we are trying to shed salary not add salary.  And no, no one wants Tootoo so don't add him to a hypothetical deal.  He's cleared waivers, he has negative value.  And Sammy isn't going anywhere given his NTC.

 

He's the Genius, not me. So he should 1) not have put us in this situation in the first place (wait, who was it who signed Tootoo, Sammy, and Cleary? Oh yeah, Brian Burke! nvm), 2) have a slam-dunk, rabbit-out-of-the-hat, deus-ex-machina that makes us say, "Oh. My. God. He's been planning this since he was seventeen years old! LEGEND!!!!!"


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