datterberg1340 626 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 I think we can now safely say, without any trace of doubt, that we need, need, need to add a veteran top-four defenseman. We're interested in Edler, Girardi is being shopped - get someone good, give him Quincey's spot. wouldn't mind Girardi, he's a shot-blocking machine and chips in offensively much like a top-4 d-man is supposed to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowings00 545 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 There are three very obvious flaws with your argument: 1) That's just a hair off .500, a number that very much does not entail domination. 2) It doesn't differentiate between ties and overtime losses, so that isn't factual at all. 3) Both teams have been great, awful, and everything in between during that span, and, needless to say, the rosters for both have seen turnover on the order of several hundred percent, and so the figure means absolutely nothing to begin with. Did I make an argument? Show me where I made an argument. That's what I thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) yep, the boys are dialing up another loss to a supposedly inferior opponent that will burn us later in the season when we're scrambling for points gonna be a long night, time to break out the alcohol anybody got any eggnog? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_dCcLWQQXc Edited December 24, 2013 by Euro_Twins 1 datterberg1340 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 I think we can now safely say, without any trace of doubt, that we need, need, need to add a veteran top-four defenseman. We're interested in Edler, Girardi is being shopped - get someone good, give him Quincey's spot. Girardi would be a dream. I just doubt if we picked up a D-man Quincey would take a seat. Babs is too loyal sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 I was secretly hoping Quincey would receive a LONG suspension for the hit on Getzlaf, but didn't say anything because I didn't want to sound like an *******. I would now like to say, I WISH Quincey had gotten a 10 game boot. Its utterly shocking that we still have him in the lineup when he contribute NOTHING. Well...except supremely ******* up over and over, and allowing the other teams to score on us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 There are three very obvious flaws with your argument: 1) That's just a hair off .500, a number that very much does not entail domination. 2) It doesn't differentiate between ties and overtime losses, so that isn't factual at all. 3) Both teams have been great, awful, and everything in between during that span, and, needless to say, the rosters for both have seen turnover on the order of several hundred percent, and so the figure means absolutely nothing to begin with. The all-time record doesn't really say anything, I agree. But it's a fact that the Wings have struggled against the Isles for some time now. That's the main idea. That the Isles are kryptonite to us, going all the way back to, what, 2003? 1776? Something ridiculous like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beachwing 426 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 Why did they sign Tootoo if they ******* hated him!!! Cut the dude loose so he can go play somewhere! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 Quincey should be a healthy scratch permanently. He's absolutely the worst player on the team. Not gonna happen.Ken won't admit his mistake in bringing Q back just like Babs won't scratch Cleary for the same reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 Why did they sign Tootoo if theyf****** hated him!!! Cut the dude loose so he can go play somewhere! They tried (when they waived him). No one would take him. Though I agree I honestly don't know why they signed him. Part of the reason no one wanted him is because Holland overpaid him. And it's like he never talked to Babcock about Tootoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aznknight 139 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 I love watching bad teams beat up on us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 No one that had the puck knew what to do with it, they are like deer in the headlights tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 I would rather it be Ouellet making rookie mistakes and learning, than Quincey doing it. Stevie Y and the Avs ripped Holland on thus deal. Would've rather just had Downie. Of course Babcock wouldn't play someone like that...ie Tootoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted December 24, 2013 Girardi would be a dream. I just doubt if we picked up a D-man Quincey would take a seat. Babs is too loyal sometimes. Girardi is vastly overrated on this forum. He was absolutely brutal last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 The thing with Quincey is he's not just bad, he's very literally a factor for the other team almost every game we play. He singlehandedly costs us games and points. Whether it's boneheaded plays or boneheaded penalties or both, he kills us, with incredible, borderline hilarious consistency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 Well that's an encouraging start... man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 Sorry I know you love the baby goalie but it's true, our defense is killing our goaltending Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 At least Smith and Q have been broken up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 Stevie Y and the Avs ripped Holland on thus deal. And now Holland's going to refuse to move a first-round pick for a guy who we seriously need and who would seriously help. Because of Quincey. I think the Avs dealt him here because they knew he'd submarine us. I know, beating a dead horse. But for the love of God, what does this guy have to do to get his ass sat? Girardi is vastly overrated on this forum. He was absolutely brutal last season. Oh noes, a hockey player had a bad season! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crashnburnluder 385 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 ummmm.... Did I just hear Cleary with Datsyuk and Bertuzzi... well that really should get things going... when you need to score obviously move Cleary and his -2 up instead of tatar... lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 At least Smith and Q have been broken up. Wow, did Babs finally wake up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 ummmm.... Did I just hear Cleary with Datsyuk and Bertuzzi... well that really should get things going... when you need to score obviously move Cleary and his -2 up instead of tatar... lol Bench Tatar, play Cleary and Quincey more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 Oh noes, a hockey player had a bad season! Though, to be fair, I guess you could say the same thing in Quincey's defense. But Quincey was never as good as Girardi has shown he can be and, I think, is. Bottom line, we need a defenseman like Girardi, and now he's being shopped. It makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,359 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 Holy crap...Did I see Bert with a clean shaven mug? He's gotta look good for those Corona chugging and bubble gum chewing shots for 24/7. 1 datterberg1340 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted December 24, 2013 I think we can now safely say, without any trace of doubt, that we need, need, need to add a veteran top-four defenseman. We're interested in Edler, Girardi is being shopped - get someone good, give him Quincey's spot. Edler is -12 on a team that would be tied for 1st in the East. I don't think he's who you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 So Smith is paired with Kronwall and Ericsson with Quincey? Poor Big Rig. Lashoff/Quincey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites