MasterPavel 115 Report post Posted June 27, 2014 That is a terrible idea. So we would give up a 30 goal scorer that without we wouldn't have been in the playoffs. Plus a potential 30 goal scoring power forward for a guy who most people project as a borderline 1, strong 2 dman. Ekblad is no Doughty or Weber... Offer them our first Nyquist and Jurco Ekblads potential is sky high him at Dekeyser at the blueline would be an unbelievable pairing for more than a decade 1 wings4thecup06 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted June 27, 2014 Offer them our first Nyquist and Jurco Ekblads potential is sky high him at Dekeyser at the blueline would be an unbelievable pairing for more than a decadei dont think FLA would be very interested in Nyquist and Jurco, they are not elite. As mentioned before, I think Dekeyser and a pick or prospect might catch their attention. But then the price is much steeper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DannyD 79 Report post Posted June 27, 2014 i dont think FLA would be very interested in Nyquist and Jurco, they are not elite. As mentioned before, I think Dekeyser and a pick or prospect might catch their attention. But then the price is much steeper. Florida is looking to trade #1 because they don't necessarily need anymore young defenseman. I would love Ekblad, but not at the price it would cost to get him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DannyD 79 Report post Posted June 27, 2014 I'd prefer to see Holland trade up this year. Ekblad is out of reach but then trade up to grab one of the skilled, physical forwards. Red Wings have depth and plenty of skill but no size whatsoever. Jurco, Sheahan, Mantha and the evil Franzen all have size. Dekeyser, Smith, Marchenko, Sproul, and Bäckman are all 6'2" or taller. AA2 is actually much bigger than most people think at 6'2" 200lbs. I imagine he would put on at least another 5lbs working out in GR. The kid we just signed from across the pond, Nosek is 6'2" 202 lbs. (exact same size as Kesler) We have also 4 young Dmen out there who are 6'5" or taller. We have definitely been investing more in size and skill lately. To insinuate that we have only been picking 5'10" 160lb guys is dumb. Interesting note. I went back to look at last years prospect rankings and Sproul has gone from 6'3" 186 lbs to 6'4 205 lbs. He may be closer to 215lbs by the time he reaches the NHL. 2 PavelValerievichDatsyuk and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted June 27, 2014 Florida is looking to trade #1 because they don't necessarily need anymore young defenseman. I would love Ekblad, but not at the price it would cost to get him.If you mean they want NHL ready players then I'm with you because FLA is not terribly young on defense. I dont think they would turn down Dekeyser because of his age. He is 24 and has already shown he is NHL ready. Now, Dekeyser is probably a top 5 favorite Red Wing for me, he is someone I really dont want to give up, but people must realize that other teams are not looking to trade away their assets for leftovers. If you want something good, it will be a key player going in the opposite direction. It will not be Nyquist, Tatar or Jurco other teams will be calling for. It will be Dekeyser, Mantha, Mrazek or Sheahan. Jurco, Sheahan, Mantha and the evil Franzen all have size. Dekeyser, Smith, Marchenko, Sproul, and Bäckman are all 6'2" or taller. AA2 is actually much bigger than most people think at 6'2" 200lbs. I imagine he would put on at least another 5lbs working out in GR. The kid we just signed from across the pond, Nosek is 6'2" 202 lbs. (exact same size as Kesler) We have also 4 young Dmen out there who are 6'5" or taller. We have definitely been investing more in size and skill lately. To insinuate that we have only been picking 5'10" 160lb guys is dumb. Interesting note. I went back to look at last years prospect rankings and Sproul has gone from 6'3" 186 lbs to 6'4 205 lbs. He may be closer to 215lbs by the time he reaches the NHL. When did I insinuate that we only picked up 5'10 160 lb players? Also how many of these bigger guys actually play big and physical? None imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Wanted to go back and review this thread from the beginning. My first post was all about our strengths at G and D and the need for forwards. the second post was 3 targets for us to go after, one of which was larkin. Second year in a row that I had the draft pretty well nailed. We ended up at 15, which back in January was the same spot. With our 7 picks we took 1 G and 6 forwards, all of which that are over 6ft tall. For years we had some crazy man crush on small players. The past 2-3 drafts we are finally drafting guys with modern NHL size. Overall great job by Holland and company! Now we have no idea how any of these guys will turn out. The draft is all about getting value with each pick. This year we did it and didn't have any reaches. Very happy overall. Once the season gets going again, I will still posting thoughts about the 2015 draft. But in about a week I will be taking a hockey break to enjoy the rest of the summer. waiting until the UFA period happens of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 677 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Wanted to go back and review this thread from the beginning. My first post was all about our strengths at G and D and the need for forwards. the second post was 3 targets for us to go after, one of which was larkin. Second year in a row that I had the draft pretty well nailed. We ended up at 15, which back in January was the same spot. With our 7 picks we took 1 G and 6 forwards, all of which that are over 6ft tall. For years we had some crazy man crush on small players. The past 2-3 drafts we are finally drafting guys with modern NHL size. Overall great job by Holland and company! Now we have no idea how any of these guys will turn out. The draft is all about getting value with each pick. This year we did it and didn't have any reaches. Very happy overall. Once the season gets going again, I will still posting thoughts about the 2015 draft. But in about a week I will be taking a hockey break to enjoy the rest of the summer. waiting until the UFA period happens of course. I'm glad you're taking a break, you worked hard this season. Looking forward to 2015. 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Wanted to go back and review this thread from the beginning. My first post was all about our strengths at G and D and the need for forwards. the second post was 3 targets for us to go after, one of which was larkin. Second year in a row that I had the draft pretty well nailed. We ended up at 15, which back in January was the same spot. With our 7 picks we took 1 G and 6 forwards, all of which that are over 6ft tall. For years we had some crazy man crush on small players. The past 2-3 drafts we are finally drafting guys with modern NHL size. Overall great job by Holland and company! Now we have no idea how any of these guys will turn out. The draft is all about getting value with each pick. This year we did it and didn't have any reaches. Very happy overall. Once the season gets going again, I will still posting thoughts about the 2015 draft. But in about a week I will be taking a hockey break to enjoy the rest of the summer. waiting until the UFA period happens of course. You answered your own point. Many years the Wings haven't had a 1st rounder, when they did it was often nearer a 2nd rounder. So they had to go for "value" . That often meant smaller, skilled players, or bigger less skilled players. Because the big, skilled players are gone by picks 10-15. You think a 6-3 Kronwall is available at 29? A 6-0 Hudler at 58? A 6-2 Filpulla at 95? A 6-2 Nyquist at 121? A 6-1 Tatar at 60? Most of our bigger, less skilled players didn't work out, whereas we had more success with the smaller, skilled guys. But the last few drafts the Wings have publicly said they know the pendulum swung too far that way. 2 krsmith17 and number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 One early thought about 2015. we will not be drafting McDavid. So please stop now. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 One early thought about 2015. we will not be drafting McDavid. So please stop now. LOL Let's trade Mantha, Datsyuk, Z, Kronwall, all of our 2015 draft picks, and a game used Howe Jersey for the 1st pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 677 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Any early predictions on who will be bad enough to land McDavid? If Florida could pull it off they'd have a nice start on a solid future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Any early predictions on who will be bad enough to land McDavid? If Florida could pull it off they'd have a nice start on a solid future. Edmonton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 One early thought about 2015. we will not be drafting McDavid. So please stop now. LOL This team as it is today will be a bubble team, so they could get McDavid, it's just very unlikely. But why rebuild when you can play 5 playoff games a year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 677 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Edmonton They've had a top 10 pick in 7 of the last 8 drafts including 3 #1s in a row and the year they drafted outside the top 10 they still snagged Eberle in the 1st round. If they don't become a legitimate dynasty in the next five years the system is broken! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Any early predictions on who will be bad enough to land McDavid? If Florida could pull it off they'd have a nice start on a solid future. Buffalo!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Sabres and god knows they deserve some luck but I can't stand Murray Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,198 Report post Posted June 30, 2014 Axel Holmstrom says: Sick. Best birthday present ever, I will do whatever it takes to put that red & white jersey on. @DetroitRedWings https://twitter.com/axelholma/status/483249847844470785 I like this kid already. 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted July 2, 2014 Maybe we are going after Mcdavid....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterPavel 115 Report post Posted July 2, 2014 We are still better than Buffalo, Ottawa, Winnipeg, New Jersey, and Florida. So yeah weay end up woth a small shot at Connor... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted July 3, 2014 Next year's worst team will no doubt be one of Florida, Buffalo or the Islanders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted July 4, 2014 Next year's worst team will no doubt be one of Florida, Buffalo or the Islanders. Watch Florida and buffalo make the playoffs and we don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nawein 324 Report post Posted July 4, 2014 My not-so-dark horse pick for the first overall pick next year: Ottawa Senators. 1 Mckinley25 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted July 4, 2014 My not-so-dark horse pick for the first overall pick next year: Ottawa Senators. They have become much worse but bad enough to outtank the Sabres? Tough call I could see the Wings and Senators battling for a top 5 pick but That David kid might be a reach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinezsvsu 240 Report post Posted July 4, 2014 sabers will be the worst team. id bet money on it. their front office is tanking on purpose. but they probably wont get the first pick though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 5, 2014 Sabres will be the worst. They're doing the best rebuilds since Chicago and Pit. They're not half-assing it like Calgary. BTW I don't think we've sunk even close to that level yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites