Andrew Hasek 1986 23 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) What has he done in Buffalo? What is he going to do in ST. Louis? Nothing much he's going to have to play every night. He hasn't got the job done for years in Buffalo. Buffalo had a good team not the best but a good team none the less. This is only a Trade. It looks good on paper. You have to play. You can't say that just because they make this type of a trade that they are going to win it all. Jimmy Howard and Jonas Gustavsson is better than Ryan Miller ever will be sorry. When there on there game you can't beat them. Sorry Detroit's better I want the Red Wings to Play St. Louis will beat them every single game!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sick of people saying that oh my god there going to do this and that play first talk later I mean come on people!!!!!!!! Bottom line I feel sorry for Halak a guy who worked his ass off for the Blues and now get's to now miss the playoffs. The NHL is a business I guess. Hope we make a Splash in this years Trade Deadline this year looks like we won't be sadly as I don't think Ken Holland knows how to make trades anymore. Salary Cap really? That's going to go to 71 Million I believe next year just get someone we have the room... Enough said everyone!! Edited March 1, 2014 by Andrew Hasek 1986 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 BOOM. This was a good splash to get things started. I like the deal for both sides, but the Blues obviously look better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,965 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 where is cprice? guess we're out of the Ott rumors now, eh? Blues got better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Fine with me. The stronger opponents become to beat the Blackhawks, the better. The Blues might be the most well-rounded team in hockey now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,965 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 so that's what its like to have a GM with balls... would have gladly swapped Jimmy for Miller in a package. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 so that's what its like to have a GM with balls... would have gladly swapped Jimmy for Miller in a package. . Would have cost a lot more than just Jimmy. Besides, goaltending isn't the Red Wings issue. Jimmy has largely been much better since the new year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Would have cost a lot more than just Jimmy. Besides, goaltending isn't the Red Wings issue. Jimmy has largely been much better since the new year. Exactly. Plus, Miller is UFA at the end of the season isn't he? Not a big deal for the Blues, as if Miller walks they still have a very good goalie. We would have one with very limited NHL experience Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Blues are so stacked now. I just can't see them losing to anyone unless there's key injuries or players under perform drastically. I wouldn't be surprised if Miller plays outstanding runs away with Vezina and wins a Stanley Cup then signs huge contract elsewhere They have potentially 2 Norris finalists Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Ok, I guess you guys need to set me straight because I am seeing a large overpayment from the Blues.... Miller (age 33) is an upgrade over Halak (age 28) but I think their value is quite close. Stewart is a top 6 forward and has more value than Ott who is a bottom 6 forward. Prospect and two draft picks (one being a 1st rounder) What am I missing here? Edited March 1, 2014 by unsaddleddonald 1 matthewdanna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 They got good value for a guy who was going to walk in a few months anyway. Stewart and Hitchcock have a history of not getting along, so moving him might be addition by subtraction in their eyes. Miller hasn't done anything in Buffalo because it's Buffalo. he can only play one position, he can't make the defense defend or the forwards score. Howard for Miller would have been horrible for the Wings. 1 matthewdanna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danielsm 244 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Ok, I guess you guys need to set me straight because I am seeing a large overpayment from the Blues.... Miller (age 33) is an upgrade over Halak (age 28) but I think their value is quite close. Stewart is a top 6 forward and has more value than Ott who is a bottom 6 forward. Prospect and two draft picks (one being a 1st rounder) What am I missing here? The improvement on the defense side of things. They'll be a wall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Aren't they already pretty solid defensively already? I think the Blues were a contender already and I'm not sure that Miller was really the missing piece. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PumpkinEscobar 136 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 If the Blues resign Miller or make the WCF then that 3rd becomes a 2014 1st rounder. Love what Buffalo did. Getting possibly 2014 and 2015 firsts for someone who was gonna leave anyway. Flip Stewart and Halak and load up even more. 1 ahkmed reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 so that's what its like to have a GM with balls... would have gladly swapped Jimmy for Miller in a package. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Ok, I guess you guys need to set me straight because I am seeing a large overpayment from the Blues.... Miller (age 33) is an upgrade over Halak (age 28) but I think their value is quite close. Stewart is a top 6 forward and has more value than Ott who is a bottom 6 forward. Prospect and two draft picks (one being a 1st rounder) What am I missing here? Agreed. 1. Stewart > OTT 2. Miller was not going to re-sign in Buffalo so you need to get something 3. Plus picks: 1 guaranteed 1st, and one that has a good probability of being a 1st Good trade for Buffalo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Yeah not gonna say Blues got fleeced but value went to the seller per usual Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Yes but Blues are stacked and they want to win now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Yes but Blues are stacked and they want to win now Well of course. That's the nature of these deals. They're stacked now but they just potentially subtracted 3 top prospects from their pool. Imagine if we lost Pulkinnen, Mantha, and Jarnkrok right now. Anyway not saying it's a bad move. Right now it's a great move, who knows how the future will turn out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 They got good value for a guy who was going to walk in a few months anyway. Stewart and Hitchcock have a history of not getting along, so moving him might be addition by subtraction in their eyes. Miller hasn't done anything in Buffalo because it's Buffalo. he can only play one position, he can't make the defense defend or the forwards score. Howard for Miller would have been horrible for the Wings. Really? 5 Hockeymom1960, freshy, Wing Across The Pond and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropkickshanahans 463 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) "Nownownow wait a minute, whaddya mean Al doesn't loik me? Al and I getalong just foyne!" That's how I imagine Jimmy Stewart would type anyway. Really? Edited March 1, 2014 by dropkickshanahans 7 GMRwings1983, kipwinger, Wing Across The Pond and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,533 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 "Nownownow wait a minute, whaddya mean Al doesn't loik me? Al and I getalong just foyne!" That's how I imagine Jimmy Stewart would type anyway. This post rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Acquired in the Ryan Miller trade, Halak may not stay a Sabre for long and head to Minnesota instead, reports TSN's Bob McKenzie. Wild,wild west lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 I've sensed a theme: Halák has a tough time keeping a job with good teams. I don't even see him being ahead of Enroth on the Sabres' depth chart. Favourite Ryan Miller moment? That's easy: 2 marcaractac and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Well of course. That's the nature of these deals. They're stacked now but they just potentially subtracted 3 top prospects from their pool. Imagine if we lost Pulkinnen, Mantha, and Jarnkrok right now. Anyway not saying it's a bad move. Right now it's a great move, who knows how the future will turn out. Who has ever heard about Carrier before? They haven't given up much also the first is conditional if Miller re-signs OR they at least make it to the conference finals to me the deal is fair and a win-win for both clubs, but the Sabres are running the risk offturning into the oilers = lots of good picks but no veterans to guide them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted March 1, 2014 To me this kind of feels like what Pittsburgh did last year... They're rolling and then they seemingly make a move for the sake of making a move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites