FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8466149 The herpes of hockey - because - wait for it - HE WON'T GO AWAY!!! Who's #71? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nawein 324 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 We all know it's going to be: 93-13-8 21-15-14 26-43-11 20-41-17 Just so no one here is happy. If I got to decide I'd run with: 8-13-11 14-17-93 21-15-26 20-41-43 But then again I'm not the best coach in the world so.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 I can deal with Abby playing with Pav a little more if Franzen isn't on that line too. Both of them combined is just wasting Pavel unless Franzen decides to play hockey again soon. Nyquist - Datsyuk - Abby Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Franzen - Helm - Alfie Miller - Glendening - Legwand Franzen and Alfie really have to be better offensively for the Wings to compete with the Bruins. The kid line will be fine and Glendening's line will be important because I think it would be ideal to get Bergeron away from Datsyuk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 8 13 11 14 17 93 21 15 26 20 41 43 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,477 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8466149 The herpes of hockey - because - wait for it - HE WON'T GO AWAY!!! Oh Ya lol, I always forget he switched to #71 1 FireCaptain reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt198913 932 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 Alrighty the wings aren't going to be able to match up with Boston. So we will have to have great play from our centers. I see Glendening against Bergeron and Datsyuk against Krejci. After that Kid line against Kelly line. I really think that's where the series will be decided. Whomever gets the best of that matchup will win it. If I had my druthers I would line them up like this. Abdelkader Datsyuk Jurco Nyquist Sheahan Tartar Miller Glendening Legwand Franzen Helm Alfredsson Kronwall Smith Dekeyser Quicney Lashoff Kindl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 It’s sad that we’re all ******* around with forward line combos. The forward lines currently match up well with the Bruins IMO. I actually think we have the edge. But unless you have the option to insert either a) Jesus or b) Optimus Prime into the lineup on defence, their are no defensive pairings that can collectively shut down the Bears. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 @AnsarKhanMLive: Lines juggled: Nyquist-Datsyuk-Abdelkader, Franzen-Helm-Alfredsson, Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco, Miller-Glendening-Legwand. I like these lines a lot more than what they used yesterday 1 wings87 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nawein 324 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Lines at the skate today are: 14-13-8 93-43-11 21-15-26 20-41-17 Edit: Per Khaaaaaan Edited April 16, 2014 by nawein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 @AnsarKhanMLive: First power-play unit: Datsyuk, Franzen, Nyquist, Legwand (net front), Kronwall; 2nd unit: Jurco, Tatar, Sheahan (net front), Alfredsson, DK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 It’s sad that we’re allf****** around with forward line combos. The forward lines currently match up well with the Bruins IMO. I actually think we have the edge. But unless you have the option to insert either a) Jesus or b) Optimus Prime into the lineup on defence, their are no defensive pairings that can collectively shut down the Bears. Well, we don't have those options, so there's nothing to really talk about on defense. Our defense is plan is: Limit the exposure of Kindl-Lashoff, try not to get anyone in the top 4 hurt, and hope Smith doesn't go full retard. Alrighty the wings aren't going to be able to match up with Boston. So we will have to have great play from our centers. I see Glendening against Bergeron and Datsyuk against Krejci. After that Kid line against Kelly line. I really think that's where the series will be decided. Whomever gets the best of that matchup will win it. If I had my druthers I would line them up like this.Abdelkader Datsyuk JurcoNyquist Sheahan TartarMiller Glendening LegwandFranzen Helm AlfredssonKronwall SmithDekeyser QuicneyLashoff Kindl Don't think there's much chance of getting Bergeron away from Datsyuk. I'd want Glendening against Krejci anyway. Lucic and Iggy are both hotheads, so I think Glenny could get to them. With Miller and Helm I think we'd have a decent chance of neutralizing them. I like our kid line (either the Nyquist or Jurco option) against their 3rd or 4th (though I do worry a little about Campbell and Thornton douching it up). I think they could at least make up any shortfall from above and possibly even give us an edge. I'd like to see Datsyuk given enough firepower to beat Bergeron/Chara, as I think whatever we put out against Kelly-Soderberg-Eriksson will be able to hold their own. The other option is to concede the Bergeron matchup and try to exploit Soderberg. But the Bergeron line scores so well I think we need to make it as tough for them on defense as we can. Regardless, it's a hell of a challenge. We're going to need a lot of guys at their best, and probably less than the best from the Bruins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 Well, we don't have those options, so there's nothing to really talk about on defense. Our defense is plan is: Limit the exposure of Kindl-Lashoff, try not to get anyone in the top 4 hurt, and hope Smith doesn't go full retard. Don't think there's much chance of getting Bergeron away from Datsyuk. I'd want Glendening against Krejci anyway. Lucic and Iggy are both hotheads, so I think Glenny could get to them. With Miller and Helm I think we'd have a decent chance of neutralizing them. I like our kid line (either the Nyquist or Jurco option) against their 3rd or 4th (though I do worry a little about Campbell and Thornton douching it up). I think they could at least make up any shortfall from above and possibly even give us an edge. I'd like to see Datsyuk given enough firepower to beat Bergeron/Chara, as I think whatever we put out against Kelly-Soderberg-Eriksson will be able to hold their own. The other option is to concede the Bergeron matchup and try to exploit Soderberg. But the Bergeron line scores so well I think we need to make it as tough for them on defense as we can. Regardless, it's a hell of a challenge. We're going to need a lot of guys at their best, and probably less than the best from the Bruins. Personally I think that Dats, Abby, Alfie could play the Bergeron line even. I also think the Kid Line would give the Krejci line fits because of it's speed and because Sheahan and Jurco are the biggest and strongest options we've got to play against Lucic and Iginla. If we could get a wash out of those two and free up a Franzen, Legwand, Nyquist line to play against their third line, I think we could beat them. And it goes without saying that Miller, Helm, and Glendening would eat their fourth line alive/provide for defensive relief with defensive zone starts for the kids/augmenting the Kindl-Lashoff pairing. Your thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 Well this is what I wanted the other day: Nyquist - Dats - Abby Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Franzen - Helm/Legwand - Alfredsson Miller - Glendenning - Legwand/Helm and this is what lines were at practice today: Nyquist-Datsyuk-Abdelkader, Franzen-Helm-Alfredsson, Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco, Miller-Glendening-Legwand. Glad babs if finally lurking LGW and listening to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,477 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 Well this is what I wanted the other day: Nyquist - Dats - Abby Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Franzen - Helm/Legwand - Alfredsson Miller - Glendenning - Legwand/Helm and this is what lines were at practice today: Nyquist-Datsyuk-Abdelkader, Franzen-Helm-Alfredsson, Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco, Miller-Glendening-Legwand. Glad babs if finally lurking LGW and listening to me Lol looks good to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StayClassy 38 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 I thought Legwand has been great as a center, can anyone explain to me putting him on the 4th as 41's winger? Is it just to have a pure shutdown line or what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 I thought Legwand has been great as a center, can anyone explain to me putting him on the 4th as 41's winger? Is it just to have a pure shutdown line or what? Ya I believe it's to have a pure shutdown line, although I've thought that lines been excellent since being put together. 1 wingedominance13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StayClassy 38 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 If we ever get back Ericsson back I wouldn't mind seeing line combos such as: Kronwall-Lashoff/Kindl Smith-Ericsson Dekeyser-Quincey Lashoff looked serviceable last year at the beginning of the season playing with Kron, and Kindl had flashes during the playoffs. Maybe pairing one of these guys with some one steady like Kron will do the trick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 Well, we don't have those options, so there's nothing to really talk about on defense. Our defense is plan is: Limit the exposure of Kindl-Lashoff, try not to get anyone in the top 4 hurt, and hope Smith doesn't go full retard. Don't think there's much chance of getting Bergeron away from Datsyuk. I'd want Glendening against Krejci anyway. Lucic and Iggy are both hotheads, so I think Glenny could get to them. With Miller and Helm I think we'd have a decent chance of neutralizing them. I like our kid line (either the Nyquist or Jurco option) against their 3rd or 4th (though I do worry a little about Campbell and Thornton douching it up). I think they could at least make up any shortfall from above and possibly even give us an edge. I'd like to see Datsyuk given enough firepower to beat Bergeron/Chara, as I think whatever we put out against Kelly-Soderberg-Eriksson will be able to hold their own. The other option is to concede the Bergeron matchup and try to exploit Soderberg. But the Bergeron line scores so well I think we need to make it as tough for them on defense as we can. Regardless, it's a hell of a challenge. We're going to need a lot of guys at their best, and probably less than the best from the Bruins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) I still don't get why Babs wants Nyquist and Datsyuk together so bad. You're putting your two most dynamic scorers on the same line against one of the better shutdown lines in hockey. Pair this with the fact that they don't play particularly well together and it just doesn't make sense. Edited April 16, 2014 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Lime 234 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 Can I get McCarty, Lapointe and Maltby on the fourth line, and replace Lashoff with Konstantinov? Sorry, I was just watching the Red Wings hit parade. But I would replace Lashoff with anyone else. Get healthy soon, Ericsson. 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingedominance13 112 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 Legwand has been a good center. but Nashville plays a zone D, Wings play strict man on man. Winger has less to know in the Wing's D system so its an easier transition. Since we dont absolutely need him at C anymore he should be more effective short term on the wing. Not saying leggy has been bad, but it makes sense why he is seeing time as a shutdown winger. (this is the same problem Weiss had defensively, besides other things) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nevermind 363 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 Abdelkader-Datsyuk-Nyquist Franzen-Helm-Alfredsson Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco Miller-Legwand-Glendening OMG Babcock read my post!!!!! http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/04/mike_babcock_shuffles_lines_at.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Abdelkader should be benched in the playoffs., why?In the playoffs he takes so many stupid penalties. And a lot of the time they have been costly. Need proof? In the regular season he a penalty once every 3 games. In the playoffs he averages almost a penalty per game. And it's not like they are the 'he saved a goal and took a penalty' types either. They are 'why the hell would you hold a guy in the neutral zone who is 30 feet from the puck' type penalties. Edited April 16, 2014 by Shaman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 Personally I think that Dats, Abby, Alfie could play the Bergeron line even. I also think the Kid Line would give the Krejci line fits because of it's speed and because Sheahan and Jurco are the biggest and strongest options we've got to play against Lucic and Iginla. If we could get a wash out of those two and free up a Franzen, Legwand, Nyquist line to play against their third line, I think we could beat them. And it goes without saying that Miller, Helm, and Glendening would eat their fourth line alive/provide for defensive relief with defensive zone starts for the kids/augmenting the Kindl-Lashoff pairing. Your thoughts? If Dats and Alfie can play like Dats and Alfie (or better yet even, slightly younger versions of themselves) I'd say so, and Abby might be able to keep the worst of Marchand in check. The speed of the kids probably would cause some problems, I just don't think they have the defensive chops to keep up. If they got enough help it might work. Mule-Leggy (or Helm)-Gus should be able to beat their 3rd line. No matter how we juggle the lines I think we should be able to get the better of their bottom 6. So if we can beat or break even with their top 6, it should offset their advantage on defense. Then it's a matter of Jimmy vs Rask. Typed out, that last line looks more disheartening than it does in my head. 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 If Dats and Alfie can play like Dats and Alfie (or better yet even, slightly younger versions of themselves) I'd say so, and Abby might be able to keep the worst of Marchand in check. The speed of the kids probably would cause some problems, I just don't think they have the defensive chops to keep up. If they got enough help it might work. Mule-Leggy (or Helm)-Gus should be able to beat their 3rd line. No matter how we juggle the lines I think we should be able to get the better of their bottom 6. So if we can beat or break even with their top 6, it should offset their advantage on defense. Then it's a matter of Jimmy vs Rask. Typed out, that last line looks more disheartening than it does in my head. I've been thinking about that all day. I hope to god Jimmy has another gear to shift into. Last year's playoff Jimmy would be nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites