vladdy16 2,154 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 22s DAL trades Alec Chiasson, Alex Guptill, Nicholas Paul and 2nd round pick in 2015 to OTT for Jason Spezza and Ludvig Karlsson. #TSN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Good deal for Dallas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings4thecup06 504 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Not a bad deal at all for Dallas. At least there's one less team to worry about in our division now to try and make the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Not a bad deal at all for Dallas. At least there's one less team to worry about in our division now to try and make the playoffs. not necessarily, according to the ottawa sun the sens arent done trading today "by a long shot" source: https://twitter.com/SunGarrioch/status/483990503948427264 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Wow Ottawa is gonna suck. Good thing Alfie jumped ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Does anyone have rough comparables for those players (outside of Spezza) from within our organization? Because looking at that trade, I don't know most of the names, so it's kind of hard to gauge the deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 I'm a huge Holland supporter and I think he is still doing a great job and is STILL one of the best GMs in the league. But look at what Nill is doing in Dallas. It's crazy how quick he is turning that team around. I strongly believe they will be a serious contender within a few years. Part of me wished he took over as GM of the Wings and Holland took on another role. Again, I love Holland, so please don't turn this into another Holland bash fest. Nill just gets s*** done. 2 e_prime and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 I'm a huge Holland supporter and I think he is still doing a great job and is STILL one of the best GMs in the league. But look at what Nill is doing in Dallas. It's crazy how quick he is turning that team around. I strongly believe they will be a serious contender within a few years. Part of me wished he took over as GM of the Wings and Holland took on another role. Again, I love Holland, so please don't turn this into another Holland bash fest. Nill just gets s*** done. Nill and Yzerman have done wonders for their respective clubs, no question. 2 Z Winged Dangler and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladdy16 2,154 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 I'm a huge Holland supporter and I think he is still doing a great job and is STILL one of the best GMs in the league. But look at what Nill is doing in Dallas. It's crazy how quick he is turning that team around. I strongly believe they will be a serious contender within a few years. Part of me wished he took over as GM of the Wings and Holland took on another role. Again, I love Holland, so please don't turn this into another Holland bash fest. Nill just gets s*** done. I agree and I have nothing but love for Jim Nill, but he also had a lot more money to work with and nowhere to go but up really. I'm withholding judgment for the next couple of seasons. 2 krsmith17 and Frozen-Man reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 27m So in a league where it's seemingly impossible to acquire top-end centers, Jim Nill picks up Tyler Seguin and Jason Spezza within 12 months 2 martinezsvsu and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings4thecup06 504 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 27m So in a league where it's seemingly impossible to acquire top-end centers, Jim Nill picks up Tyler Seguin and Jason Spezza within 12 months Crazy isn't it? Good on NIll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 I'm a huge Holland supporter and I think he is still doing a great job and is STILL one of the best GMs in the league. But look at what Nill is doing in Dallas. It's crazy how quick he is turning that team around. I strongly believe they will be a serious contender within a few years. Part of me wished he took over as GM of the Wings and Holland took on another role. Again, I love Holland, so please don't turn this into another Holland bash fest. Nill just gets s*** done. I like Nill a lot and think he is doing a great job but the team/situation he has and the road Dallas needs to traverse is very different than the team/situation that Holland has and the road Detroit needs to traverse are incredibly different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Wow Ottawa is gonna suck. Good thing Alfie jumped ship. Too bad for him he jumped onto another sinking ship. Like going from the Andrea Doria to the Titanic. Nill and Yzerman have done wonders for their respective clubs, no question. Are you saying that re-signing Cleary and Samuelsson last season isn't doing wonders? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Can we get Nill back? Please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Too bad for him he jumped onto another sinking ship. Like going from the Andrea Doria to the Titanic. Are you saying that re-signing Cleary and Samuelsson last season isn't doing wonders? Sammuelsson wasn't re-signed last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Sammuelsson wasn't re-signed last season. Right, the year before. Still a bad move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Chaisson is gonna be a good one, but I'd still make that deal for a player close to his prime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Highway robbery by Dallas. One of the best C's in the game for 4 marginal prospects/picks. Chassion was a 2nd, paul was a 4th, the other guy was a 3rd, plus a second next year. So far this is 3 star players traded for next to nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted July 3, 2014 If you need more proof that Bryan Murray is an absolute buffoon, look no further. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 5, 2014 Yzerman and Nill have both made great immediate impacts, but usually immediate impact comes at the price of the future. I'll reserve judgement until they have a few years under their belts. Also, I doubt either will draft like our staff does. We're the king of that hill still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites