Free agents this off season

[number9 3,297]

Would I given him 4-5 per at the time? Yes but I never would of given him 7 years regardless of the at any term comment

If someone's starving and says boy I'd kill someone for some pizza right now does that then mean they'd kill someone ?

Anyways f*** all this s*** your just being a smart ass .... I could go around the 1000 pages and look for s*** you said that proved to be wrong but unlike you I'm not gonna waste my time

Yes I was wrong about clarkson and clowe and I never said I was always right ... And incase you didn't notice a lot of people were on board on signing clarkson

I'll refer you back to the very post you quoted lol

Yes you are. Prior to the Clarkson signing you were all "at all cost" and I think he should get this amount per year. You never even bothered to mention term. Now after the fact you are claiming it's all about term lol. Very convenient.

Forget term. Fact is you wanted to pay him, and Clowe, almost the exact cap hit they're currently at. Which is DUMB at any term.

Ha Ha HA ha deal with it

#DumbAtAnyTerm

And ur whole "I could dig through stuff you said that proved to be wrong but I'm not gonna waste my time" spiel is 100% correct. It would be a waste of your time, because I am never wrong. Ever.

Edited May 13, 2015 by number9

[number9 3,297]

you are out of control. I especially like the one all caps HA in the middle like it needs accentuating. It's like the Chandler of laughs.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

I'll refer you back to the very post you quoted lol

#DumbAtAnyTerm

And ur whole "I could dig through stuff you said that proved to be wrong but I'm not gonna waste my time" spiel is 100% correct. It would be a waste of your time, because I am never wrong. Ever.

There was that one time.....

[number9 3,297]

There was that one time.....

Pics or it didn't happen

[MrazekFanBoy 223]

Ward Franson Petry let smith go and don't resign zids, if you wanna play the kids trade Quincey this is his last year anyways

Nashville was doing great before Cody Franson joined the lineup,after the trade is when Nashville started to fall off of the wagon.

they were struggling before they got him, they didn't succeed because Pekka choked and they played too many offensive/young defenseman against the best team in the league.

[Buppy 1,720]

I don't recall every calling you or anyone idiots ... If it sounded like I did then I apologize for that but I wouldn't have to bring it up if people stopped defending weiss for 2-3 yrs ... He's a bust just like the clowe and clarkson signings were

...

No one was defending Weiss. It was noted that he was one of the top UFAs available, in respone to Richdg trying to argue that Holland is trying to build a team solely with drafting. No comment was made regarding whether it was a good signing or not and the only comment made on his performance here was me saying he hasn't met expectations. You then responded that the people who thought he was a top UFA were idiots, and you knew all along he'd be a bust.

Fact is, no one knows s*** about the future. There were good reasons to think Weiss would be a good addition, and there were reasons to question it. Same goes for Clarkson, Clowe, Brunner, Alfie, Lecavelier, and anyone else who's ever been brought up. No one is smart for making a correct prediction nor stupid for making a wrong one. It's not like anyone was predicting anything ridiculous.

Instead of analyzing the accuracy of past predictions, let's get back on on topic and make new predictions. Otherwise we won't be able to have any stupid arguments two years from now.

Here's mine. This UFA class sucks and will be even worse come July.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

No one has interest in Soderberg ??

He's averaged 46 Points in the last 2 years. He's big, and Swedish!

[BottleOfSmoke 5,965]

Your avatar

I love that we have running jokes through multiple threads. You guys complete me.

[Andy Pred 48 337]

No one has interest in Soderberg ??

He's averaged 46 Points in the last 2 years. He's big, and Swedish!

This is the guy the Wings should go for. Good size solid 2way puts up the numbers and would be our 2 line centre. Would fit in with the rest of the Swedwings. Have him with Tats and Nyqvist on the 2nd leaving Pav Hank and Abbey on the top line. Sheahan moves to centre the 3rd and Glendenning as the centre on the 4th line. Fill out the rest of the bottom six with who you like.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

I'm warming up to the idea of signing Petry (he's a Michigan boy) and trading for Phaneuf. It would make the defense a lot better Kronner and Phaneuf as the veterans, while DannyD will learn and soon takeover the top pairing spot and become captain in 2 years.

Edited May 14, 2015 by frankgrimes

[PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935]

This is the guy the Wings should go for. Good size solid 2way puts up the numbers and would be our 2 line centre. Would fit in with the rest of the Swedwings. Have him with Tats and Nyqvist on the 2nd leaving Pav Hank and Abbey on the top line. Sheahan moves to centre the 3rd and Glendenning as the centre on the 4th line. Fill out the rest of the bottom six with who you like.

Hmm, It's an interesting idea. His numbers aren't way above Sheahan's, but he's looked great the little I've seen him. He's an ironman which we've learned matters a lot with signing UFAs. Why is he a UFA after only 2 years (+6 games)? I guess cause he's about to turn 30? Undrafted, I guess.

I found this link that says his negatives are that he's a #3 center on the Bruins and will get PAID. That comment turns me off. We don't need another good #3 (Sheahan, Helm, Weiss?). A number 2 center would be big for us. Also, he's not very good in the face off circle.

http://thehockeywriters.com/the-free-agent-debate-on-boston-bruins-carl-soderberg/

Any reports on how much it would take to sign him?

Edited May 14, 2015 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk

[amato 3,210]

I'm warming up to the idea of signing Petry (he's a Michigan boy) and trading for Phaneuf. It would make the defense a lot better Kronner and Phaneuf as the veterans, while DannyD will learn and soon takeover the top pairing spot and become captain in 2 years.

I'd like to have him too but it looks like he wants to be in Montreal....

Renaud Lavoie @renlavoietva

#canadiens Jeff Petry wants to come back to Montréal. Saying it's his first choice. #tvasports

12:36 PM - 14 May 2015

Petry, a pending UFA who came to Montreal at the trade deadline and showed very well, is thought to be at the top of Habs GM Marc Bergevin’s priority list this summer.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/14/petry-says-signing-with-montreal-is-his-first-choice/

[rick zombo 3,739]

I'd like to have him too but it looks like he wants to be in Montreal....

They always say this.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

I'll refer you back to the very post you quoted lol

#DumbAtAnyTerm

And ur whole "I could dig through stuff you said that proved to be wrong but I'm not gonna waste my time" spiel is 100% correct. It would be a waste of your time, because I am never wrong. Ever.

Ya mr bettman over here

No one has interest in Soderberg ??

He's averaged 46 Points in the last 2 years. He's big, and Swedish!

Wouldn't mind him as long as it wasn't anything past 2 years which these days are impossible ... And he seems like a good 3rd line center, problem is I feel we got a lot of bottom 6 guys on this team already

Anderssen/miller type guys would probably be axed ... So Wouldn't be against it

Edited May 14, 2015 by nyqvististhefuture

[MrazekFanBoy 223]

No one has interest in Soderberg ??

He's averaged 46 Points in the last 2 years. He's big, and Swedish!

he's soft, we don't need him

We need a tough center, or way more offensively skilled than him, Sheahan is already as good as him, better actually and younger no point in signing that guy when we have plenty of centers in the minors who could plug center and even Helm and Abby could play center if we have a new coach I hope he plays Pav and z together let Sheahan center the second line and Helm the third, Glenna is obviously our 4th, best in the league to.

[Richdg 267]

There are 4 UFA Gmen of interest: Green, Franzon, Petry, and McQuaid. All 4 are under 30 (26-29), all are RHed, and all bring different things. Green is the best offensively a 45 point per season guy but the weakest defensively. Franzon is the next best offensively 30-35 points most years and plays physical. Petry is the youngest, is a 25-30 point guy on good teams and is the best skater. McQuaid is a stay at home guy and the most physical of the bunch. All could help us out depending on the money and term.

A thought is, how about 2 of them? Right now we have 3 decent to good LHed veteran defensemen: Dekeyser, Kronwall, and Ericsson. we have several guys that could be the 7th guy: Lashoff, KFQ, and Kindl. It seems like Marchenko is going to be up next year. That leaves 2 spots open. if we brought in 2 of these UFA's-I know a rare thing, that would give us 3 pairs of D each balanced out R/L. We could have something like this:

Dekeyser-Green

Kronwall-Franzon

Ericsson-marchenko

Lashoff

OR

Dekeyser-Franzon

Kronwall-McQuaid

Ericsson-Marchenko

Kindl

OR

You get the idea..... Options and balance is the point. That would also then free up assets like Smith, Kindl, KFQ, etc.... to be used to make moves to improve the forward group.

Yes Phanuef is the hot name right now and was at the deadline. But TBH while I like him as a player, he really doesn't fit our needs. he is another LHed D. If Tor wasn't trying to dump his contract, he wouldn't even be on our radar as a target.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

Quincey has one year left I doubt he's gonna get traded or be the 7th d guy .... I'd personally wanna see marchenko/ouellet rotate games and with the injuries that are bound to happen play about 50 games each so they get some nhl experience going forward ... Need to start playing some kids or were gonna miss the playoffs when we end up with 5-6 rookies in the lineup

If we get a dman on free agency I'm sure it'll only be one , doubt well get into costly bidding wars for the ufa defensemen with other teams especially since none are top pairing dmen

Edited May 14, 2015 by nyqvististhefuture

[MrazekFanBoy 223]

Franson and Petry let smith and zid walk, trade Quincey if you wanna play a kid, it's time to win. I'd actually be happy with either of them getting signed and Marchenko getting to play full time but X-man needs to play as well idk what Kenny will do

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

he's soft, we don't need him

We need a tough center, or way more offensively skilled than him, Sheahan is already as good as him, better actually and younger no point in signing that guy when we have plenty of centers in the minors who could plug center and even Helm and Abby could play center if we have a new coach I hope he plays Pav and z together let Sheahan center the second line and Helm the third, Glenna is obviously our 4th, best in the league to.

Player A:

44 Points, +10, 77 Hits, Solid two way play

Player B:

36 Points, -3, 27 Hits, Solid two way play

In what world, or estimation is Sheahan already better then Soderberg. The only thing Sheahan has on him right now is age.

[Richdg 267]

Player A:

44 Points, +10, 77 Hits, Solid two way play

Player B:

36 Points, -3, 27 Hits, Solid two way play

In what world, or estimation is Sheahan already better then Soderberg. The only thing Sheahan has on him right now is age.

True Sheahan is not a hitter. He is young and cheap. I still would not bring in Soderberg. Not the guy we need.

[number9 3,297]

Player A:

44 Points, +10, 77 Hits, Solid two way play

Player B:

36 Points, -3, 27 Hits, Solid two way play

In what world, or estimation is Sheahan already better then Soderberg. The only thing Sheahan has on him right now is age.

I would say Sheahan easily has the potential to match that next year. Hence the age thing. I don't see the point in signing him particularly because we have similar guys likes Sheahan already here.

Soderberg is nothing special IMO. He'd be a depth signing when I'd rather take on a role player. Granted there may not be any good roleplayers available this year.

I'm content to promote from within this year.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

I would say Sheahan easily has the potential to match that next year. Hence the age thing. I don't see the point in signing him particularly because we have similar guys likes Sheahan already here.

Soderberg is nothing special IMO. He'd be a depth signing when I'd rather take on a role player. Granted there may not be any good roleplayers available this year.

I'm content to promote from within this year.

I agree with this but his post was basically stating Sheahan is the superior player right now. Just had to set it straight that it's not the case.

The way I see it is Z can't center a line anymore. he needs to just focus on playing wing. Soderberg isn't some scrub, he's a useful NHL player that could help us in the 2nd line center spot imo, more so then Sheahan right now. With half decent linemates (he played 3rd line in Boston) I think he can get 50+ points and play a solid two way game.

This all depends on Salary and term but for 2-3 years at 4 - 4.5 million I don't see how you say no. Ship out Weiss and Anderson, LTIR Franzen. Sign Petry / Franson.

Z - D - Abby

Nyquist - Soderberg - Tatar

Pulk - Sheahan - Jurco / Helm

Miller - Glen - Jurco / Helm

Edited May 15, 2015 by darkmanx

[number9 3,297]

I agree with this but his post was basically stating Sheahan is the superior player right now. Just had to set it straight that it's not the case.

The way I see it is Z can't center a line anymore. he needs to just focus on playing wing. Soderberg isn't some scrub, he's a useful NHL player that could help us in the 2nd line center spot imo, more so then Sheahan right now. With half decent linemates (he played 3rd line in Boston) I think he can get 50+ points and play a solid two way game.

This all depends on Salary and term but for 2-3 years at 4 - 4.5 million I don't see how you say no.

Z - D - Abby

Nyquist - Soderberg - Tatar

Pulk - Sheahan - Jurco / Helm

Miller - Glen - Jurco / Helm

But wheres Weiss????

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

But wheres Weiss????

I have no idea anymore. I guess it depends if Babs is back or not.

[MrazekFanBoy 223]

Player A:

44 Points, +10, 77 Hits, Solid two way play

Player B:

36 Points, -3, 27 Hits, Solid two way play

In what world, or estimation is Sheahan already better then Soderberg. The only thing Sheahan has on him right now is age.

I bet he had more minutes and pp time than Sheahan did unless he was injured or something, Babs used him to kill penalties and I didn't see him get a lot of offensive zone starts either.

Soderberg isn't going to make us a better team lol, one he's not a second line center and two he Tatar and Nyquist on the same line.. A center who can't win face offs and two forwards who don't do well in the d-zone