Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

[marcaractac 3,963]

Not that I expect it to ever happen, but I'd be totally ok if Holland were able to land Drasaitil without having to give up Larkin. That's how you prepare for life after Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Dickie, I don't disagree. The Oilers very well may turn down that trade proposal, but I do believe in the end, they would win that trade. I also agree on Sheahan, and I think he may be better suited for 3rd line center than 2nd, but he does have the potential to get there. Getting a guy with better potential (especially a center) is definitely a good idea, but if we're going to make a huge trade like that, getting rid of some really nice pieces, I'd prefer go with more of a sure thing. I also think we should be targeting a more pressing need right now and that's defense...

Unless you're trading for a young established player who would probably cost even more, he's as close to a sure thing as you're going to get.

[krsmith17 7,191]

Yup, and that's what I'm saying. If I'm making a trade for a young number one center, I'd rather put a bigger package together for a proven elite center like Ryan Johansen. I know, I know, never going to happen... Even then, with our need on defense, I'd rather put a similar package together for a young elite defenseman, like Justin Faulk...

I'd welcome Draisaitl to the Wings, but I'd just be reluctant to give up a huge package for him...

[matt198913 932]

For crying out loud Mantha has had one half season coming off a broken leg. Let him grow.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Yup, and that's what I'm saying. If I'm making a trade for a young number one center, I'd rather put a bigger package together for a proven elite center like Ryan Johansen. I know, I know, never going to happen... Even then, with our need on defense, I'd rather put a similar package together for a young elite defenseman, like Justin Faulk...

I'd welcome Draisaitl to the Wings, but I'd just be reluctant to give up a huge package for him...

The Wings have one legit high end center prospect in Larkin. I see AA as more of a winger with his skill set. Defense is a need too, but the Oilers are loaded with top flight young forwards and could move one. I don't see any young high end defensemen available.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

The Wings have one legit high end center prospect in Larkin. I see AA as more of a winger with his skill set. Defense is a need too, but the Oilers are loaded with top flight young forwards and could move one. I don't see any young high end defensemen available.

And by the time Datsyuk and Z retire who knows who they could have drafted by then or signed in FA. What if Mantha turns out better then Draisaitl because there is no proof he will be a number one center either. He's just as unknown as Mantha at this point.

[cnot19 191]

It seems like Ryan o Reilly is available how about using the first round pick and more to acquire him?

[DickieDunn 2,571]

It seems like Ryan o Reilly is available how about using the first round pick and more to acquire him?

Over rated and overpaid

And by the time Datsyuk and Z retire who knows who they could have drafted by then or signed in FA. What if Mantha turns out better then Draisaitl because there is no proof he will be a number one center either. He's just as unknown as Mantha at this point.

True, but I think there's a netter chance that he's an impact player than Mantha

[sjr2012 439]

Over rated and overpaid

True, but I think there's a netter chance that he's an impact player than Mantha

as of no I have more faith inand larkin than I do Mantha but as well I wouldn't trade him unless its something massive coming

Edited June 17, 2015 by sjr2012

[krsmith17 7,191]

Better chance than Mantha alone, absolutely, but even then, that's not a guarantee. Better chance to have more of an impact than the entire trade package combined? I have my doubts.

[sjr2012 439]

Better chance than Mantha alone, absolutely, but even then, that's not a guarantee. Better chance to have more of an impact than the entire trade package combined? I have my doubts.

truth is I know we aren't close to the cup right now but we nearly eliminated a team that made it to the finals I still think we are a good team we just need pieces that can fall into the right form I think if mantha can net us someone who can right now fill that great but if not than hold on to him and try to work from the core

[Andy Pred 48 337]

Mantha, Larkin AA is a future top line that I'd like to see mature in Detroit.

[sjr2012 439]

Mantha, Larkin AA is a future top line that I'd like to see mature in Detroit.

I agree on AA and Larkin wouldn't be surprised if Tats or Goose are on that line Mantha on the 2nd with Pulks

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Mantha, Larkin AA is a future top line that I'd like to see mature in Detroit.

Size&stupid speed.

Mmmhmmm

[sjr2012 439]

Size&stupid speed.

Mmmhmmm

who are you referring to

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

who are you referring to

Mantha, Larkin, and athanasiou...

Larkin's the smallest one, and he's already 6'1 and close to 200 pounds.

And mantha is the slowest one, but hes not slow, once he gets going...

If he works on his first couple steps, he could be a really good skater.

[Datsyukian-Deke 722]

Mantha has the skill, he just came off a major injury in a league that is more difficult than he has ever seen before. He just has some confidence issues. The skill is there. If he gets in a full training camp and season and still is underperforming at the end of next season then I'll hit the panic button. I think he is gonna have a bounce back season however.

[Helmethead 235]

How does a player acquire stupid speed? Does a team pay more for this? Can young players go to stupid speed schools in the summer?

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

How does a player acquire stupid speed? Does a team pay more for this? Can young players go to stupid speed schools in the summer?

Its speed without having to think about it... Edited June 19, 2015 by jimmyemeryhunter

[number9 3,297]

How does a player acquire stupid speed? Does a team pay more for this? Can young players go to stupid speed schools in the summer?

This guy is my new favorite lol

[amato 3,210]

How does a player acquire stupid speed? Does a team pay more for this? Can young players go to stupid speed schools in the summer?

Nah, you go to school to get smart speed. There are a number of ways to get stupid speed.. like watching speed, on speed, while speeding.

New meta.

[rick zombo 3,739]

[Helmethead 235]

I feel the need for stupid speed!

[wings4thecup06 504]

Mantha has the skill, he just came off a major injury in a league that is more difficult than he has ever seen before. He just has some confidence issues. The skill is there. If he gets in a full training camp and season and still is underperforming at the end of next season then I'll hit the panic button. I think he is gonna have a bounce back season however.

Exactly. There isn't any need to start panicking about Mantha or thinking about jettisoning him off somewhere else at this point. The kid started way behind, came off a pretty serious injury, and still put up 32 points in a league that was way harder than the QMJHL. I agree. If he has a good camp, starts the season strong, and works everyday as a pro should, there's no reason this guy couldn't be a good permanent scorer for the Wings. He has the skill set and the size in a forward that the Wings really haven't had since Franzen was awesome and Shanahan tbh. I don't expect KH and co to give up on Mantha just because he struggled in his first pro season. If he'd done that with all our prospects we'd be nowhere right now. I think the thing that has changed with Mantha was the fact that he was so hyped coming out of juniors, and that raised everyone's expectations. Then he got injured. And everyone ended up disappointed. Yet with most other first year pro's, I think most would have been happy with the result considering the circumstances.

[Helmethead 235]

I hope Mantha isn't traded. But Red Wings GM Damien Cox says he's going to the Leafs so now I'm sad.