MrazekFanBoy 223 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 I do. Through Justin Abdelkader first 126 NHL games he had 10 goals. Now he's playing a top line power forward role. Jurco is learning how to be that and I don't think he's doing a terrible job, especially considering before he got to the NHL he never had to be a power forward. It's a process. He's learning. He'll be fine. When he gets to be Abdelkaders age he will be better than Abdelkader is right now. Bank on it. I can't speak for anybody else, but here's the problem I have with your thought. Of course Athansiou is better than Miller. But he's not better for the role. By which I mean that to be a good fourth liner you need to play defense, kill penalties, block shots, agitate, hit, etc. Athansiou is our future second line center. I don't want him blocking shots in the NHL. I want him learning how to take over a game offensively in the AHL. I don't care if he ever blocks a shot, or kills a penalty. In fact I hope he doesn't. I don't want him to get hurt. His potential is too good, and his future too bright, to have him toiling away on the fourth line just to say "well he is in the NHL at least... Nobody would argue that he isn't better than Miller. He is. But you don't need a thoroughbred to do donkey's work. You need a donkey. And Miller is a cheap, effective, donkey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 I'd prefer to see Kindl in over Smith, but I'm biased - I've never been a big fan of Smith. If I'm being as objective as I can, I don't think having one play over the other will make that big of a difference. I think Kindl's done a good job getting back to break up plays, and I think Smith's provided an edge that Kindl doesn't. Both of them still make bone-headed decisions with the puck/have a difficult time getting the puck out of the defensive zone. I'm just happy DeKeyser's coming back ahead of schedule. I think both should be gone, no long term future in Detroit anyways ... Bring up 2 of marchenko/ouellette/Jensen instead or just one and try and trade for a veteran defensemen I'd go with option 2 but I know both are going nowhere anytime soon I do. Through Justin Abdelkader first 126 NHL games he had 10 goals. Now he's playing a top line power forward role. Jurco is learning how to be that and I don't think he's doing a terrible job, especially considering before he got to the NHL he never had to be a power forward. It's a process. He's learning. He'll be fine. When he gets to be Abdelkaders age he will be better than Abdelkader is right now. Bank on it. + blashill knows him and will get the best of him ... He's 22 , can't give up on the kid after after 1 game ... He's got size, speed , hands ... Loads of skill ... Foolish to write him off now 1 MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 The thing about Jurco is he's struggled to fit in offensively. Hasn't shown us those hands or his offensive side yet. However I think he's a lot better without the puck than people realize. Much like Abdelkader he may grow slowly into his offensive role with this team. People like to think of him as this slick euro Datsyukesque sniper cause of his hands, but I think he's more of a heavy forward. Built solid and likes to dish the body. 2 MrazekFanBoy and PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 I can't speak for anybody else, but here's the problem I have with your thought. Of course Athansiou is better than Miller. But he's not better for the role. By which I mean that to be a good fourth liner you need to play defense, kill penalties, block shots, agitate, hit, etc. Athansiou is our future second line center. I don't want him blocking shots in the NHL. I want him learning how to take over a game offensively in the AHL. I don't care if he ever blocks a shot, or kills a penalty. In fact I hope he doesn't. I don't want him to get hurt. His potential is too good, and his future too bright, to have him toiling away on the fourth line just to say "well he is in the NHL at least... Nobody would argue that he isn't better than Miller. He is. But you don't need a thoroughbred to do donkey's work. You need a donkey. And Miller is a cheap, effective, donkey Mostly agree with this. Miller is a perfect fit for his role and that's why we shouldn't get rid of him. Cheap, effective, donkey for sure but he's way better than Andersson and I think still better than Ferraro. Athanasiou shouldn't be a 4th line guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 if anything we should waive Anderson Id like to see this sat Larkin Zeterberg Abby Tats Richards helm goose shehan pulk miller glendening fearro jurco franzen kronwall Ericksson GREEN DD Q KINDL Smith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 So what's with the Chara rumours were hearing over here? Boston looking to move him as they re build. What's he now 38 ? 2 kipwinger and MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 This just in, Boston trying to unload old, overpaid, pylon! Color me surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 What would it take to get Chara? 1 MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Who's gonna take character on at almost 7 million till he's 41? If he had this year left I'd maybe consider it for a playoff push but I find it hard to see anyone taking him on unless Boston pays half his salary and don't expect much in return Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 What would it take to get Chara? Poor judgement? 5 joesuffP, amato, Dave and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Poor judgement? Ahhhhhh. So what would it take for the Leafs to get Chara? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Jake Gardiner, a mid level prospect, and a 2nd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Yeah that salary is too high. Doubt he could take less money to play elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Yeah that salary is too high. Doubt he could take less money to play elsewhere. Why would you want him at any price? He scored about as much as Kyle Quincey last year and he's slow as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Berzeench 310 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Chara might be a decent move for the Oilers if they can get Boston to cover 1/2 his contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Chara would be a good move for the WWE. They could get him to replace this guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Why would you want him at any price? He scored about as much as Kyle Quincey last year and he's slow as hell. I'd take him for a discount. He was injured last year. Yes, he's getting old so his numbers will reduce. But he's a physical presence, has a monster shot from the point and would give any team experience on the blue line in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 We don't need experience on the blue line. We've got a veteran blue line. Kronwall, Ericsson, Quincey, Green, are all veterans. Kronwall has as many Cups as Chara, so it's not even like he brings that to the table. And did I mention he's slower than glass? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 We don't need experience on the blue line. We've got a veteran blue line. Kronwall, Ericsson, Quincey, Green, are all veterans. Kronwall has as many Cups as Chara, so it's not even like he brings that to the table. And did I mention he's slower than glass? Yes, but his body is big. I'm talkin bigger than bufflin big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Yes, but his body is big. I'm talkin bigger than bufflin big. Good point. He is a really huge guy. No denying the potential impact of his hugeness all sorts of stuff. He's like, bigger than Derian Hatcher. That's huge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Chara makes Hal Gill look like Hal Holbrook. He's that huge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 We don't need experience on the blue line. We've got a veteran blue line. Kronwall, Ericsson, Quincey, Green, are all veterans. Kronwall has as many Cups as Chara, so it's not even like he brings that to the table. And did I mention he's slower than glass? Plus, he's more fragile than molasses. 4 drwfan1916, Dave, roboturner and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Plus, he's more fragile than molasses. Glass is a supercooled liquid, smartass. Read a book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Good point. He is a really huge guy. No denying the potential impact of his hugeness all sorts of stuff. He's like, bigger than Derian Hatcher. That's huge. Maybe his "hugeness" would bring more female fans to the JLA and we could fill up the lower bowl. 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted October 15, 2015 Maybe his "hugeness" would bring more female fans to the JLA and we could fill up the lower bowl. Misogynist. 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites