Rumors Thread

[Rick D 394]

5 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Berggren, Holl, 3rd, No salary retention needed.

Essentially they would be helping us dump 3.4 in Holl instead of retaining any of Karlsson. I'd be okay with this. 

[LeftWinger 5,152]

14 hours ago, Rick D said:

Essentially they would be helping us dump 3.4 in Holl instead of retaining any of Karlsson. I'd be okay with this. 

...and $1.8M in Berggren. 

[kipwinger 8,766]

Apparently it's time for my yearly reminder that Erik Karlsson isn't any good. I'm not really sure why I have to keep telling everyone this. We can prove this, statistically. He scored 53 total points. He had 38 even strength points and got SCORED ON 62 times, accounting for his whopping -24 +/-. So that means he only scored 15 powerplay points, 9 fewer than Mo Seider.

Now let's put it all together. He's a net negative at even strength, he'll get scored on much more often than he'll score. He's also worse than our own internal PP quarterback, and that's the BEST part of his game. And he does ALL THAT for one of the worst contracts in the league.

He's horrible and SY would be retarded to trade for him.

Edited yesterday at 02:03 PM by kipwinger

[Motor City Mullets 315]

2 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Apparently it's time for my yearly reminder that Erik Karlsson isn't any good. I'm not really sure why I have to keep telling everyone this. We can prove this, statistically. He scored 53 total points. He had 38 even strength points and got SCORED ON 62 times, accounting for his whopping -24 +/-. So that means he only scored 15 powerplay points, 9 fewer than Mo Seider.

Now let's put it all together. He's a net negative at even strength, he'll get scored on much more often than he'll score. He's also worse than our own internal PP quarterback, and that's the BEST part of his game. And he does ALL THAT for one of the worst contracts in the league.

He's horrible and SY would be retarded to trade for him.

But what if EK65 is paired with EdvinGod77?

Norse Mythology may very well have 2 new legends worthy of  their tales of greatness shared by village elders for generations!

[Jimmybigrigs69 460]

1 hour ago, Motor City Mullets said:

But what if EK65 is paired with EdvinGod77?

Norse Mythology may very well have 2 new legends worthy of  their tales of greatness shared by village elders for generations!

We can fix him

[kipwinger 8,766]

Intriguing name out of Columbus: Yegor Chinakhov. Former 1st round pick that just requested a trade out of CBJ. His career has been sidelined by a series of injuries, but produced about .5 ppg when in the lineup. Has size and a wicked shot. Might be a good "buy low" candidate with some potential uptapped upside.

[mackel 767]

2 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Intriguing name out of Columbus: Yegor Chinakhov. Former 1st round pick that just requested a trade out of CBJ. His career has been sidelined by a series of injuries, but produced about .5 ppg when in the lineup. Has size and a wicked shot. Might be a good "buy low" candidate with some potential uptapped upside.

I was going to post something similar... I wonder if he could be had for a 3rd and Tuomisto? Too low? Maybe 1:1 with Berggren going back?

[kipwinger 8,766]

35 minutes ago, mackel said:

I was going to post something similar... I wonder if he could be had for a 3rd and Tuomisto? Too low? Maybe 1:1 with Berggren going back?

Yeah, you’re in the right ballpark. Can’t imagine it would cost much. But I wouldn’t expect too much either. He’s basically Dominik Kubalik 2.0

[mackel 767]

1 hour ago, kipwinger said:

Yeah, you’re in the right ballpark. Can’t imagine it would cost much. But I wouldn’t expect too much either. He’s basically Dominik Kubalik 2.0

Hey it's a reclamation project... Kubalik was an important trade chip in the Dcat trade...

This would be a low risk high reward play. 

[LeftWinger 5,152]

Would Doug Hamilton help more than EK?

[mackel 767]

3 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Would Doug Hamilton help more than EK?

EK is spent... bringing him in for future considerations wouldn't even make sense.

[kipwinger 8,766]

13 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Would Doug Hamilton help more than EK?

I'm not a Dougie Hamilton fanboy or anything, but he's a MUCH BETTER player than Karlsson. Hamilton gives you the same offense and powerplay expertise but he can actually defend against top players at even strength. That's the problem with Karlsson in a nut shell. He can score a zillion points, but only if you play him 20 mins a night. And if you play him 20 mins a night he'll get scored on even more than he scores...which is a lot. Hamilton doesn't have that problem.

13 hours ago, mackel said:

Hey it's a reclamation project... Kubalik was an important trade chip in the Dcat trade...

This would be a low risk high reward play. 

I agree. He's also a pretty stout guy too, so even through he brings "soft skill" it's more of the Daniel Sprong variety than the Jonatan Berggren variety.

 

[LeftWinger 5,152]

3 hours ago, kipwinger said:

I'm not a Dougie Hamilton fanboy or anything, but he's a MUCH BETTER player than Karlsson. Hamilton gives you the same offense and powerplay expertise but he can actually defend against top players at even strength. That's the problem with Karlsson in a nut shell. He can score a zillion points, but only if you play him 20 mins a night. And if you play him 20 mins a night he'll get scored on even more than he scores...which is a lot. Hamilton doesn't have that problem.

Hamilton is the play then. I am hoping each morning I wake up that I see some news!

3 hours ago, kipwinger said:

I agree. He's also a pretty stout guy too, so even through he brings "soft skill" it's more of the Daniel Sprong variety than the Jonatan Berggren variety

I say take the risk. We could use 30 goals next to Larkin and Raymond. I'd even throw in a draft pick sweetener.

[kipwinger 8,766]

58 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Hamilton is the play then. I am hoping each morning I wake up that I see some news!

I say take the risk. We could use 30 goals next to Larkin and Raymond. I'd even throw in a draft pick sweetener.

I put some feelers out to CBJ fans on Reddit to learn more about his defensive game and physical game. I know he's not some kind of Tkachuk style "power forward" but if he can use his size to protect pucks, win board battles, and crash the net then he may just be an option with the guys you mentioned. I just don't know enough about his game to know if he's got top line potential, but it's an interesting thought.