amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Red Wings NOT in on Karlsson trade. Looking to 2019 free agency instead. Definitely the right call. Here’s to hoping Karlsson is set on testing the market.. 2 krsmith17 and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, amato said: Definitely the right call. Here’s to hoping Karlsson is set on testing the market.. Definitely a bit of a bummer... but still the right call 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingnut1989 165 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 its a sign and trade i do believe, whoevers getting him is gonna have him for 9 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Dabura said: Make Offer Sheets A Thing Again (Starting Next Year tho) That's better. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Wingnut1989 said: its a sign and trade i do believe, whoevers getting him is gonna have him for 9 years. Most likely but that’s also up to Karlsson. What if no team he’s interested in is willing to give up the assets it’ll take to get him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,477 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, amato said: Most likely but that’s also up to Karlsson. What if no team he’s interested in is willing to give up the assets it’ll take to get him? You know if they're talking to him, theyre entertaining the idea for sure. I believe at least 1 or 2 teams are willing to part ways with thepieces it will take if they have him locked up for 9 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Euro_Twins said: You know if they're talking to him, theyre entertaining the idea for sure. I believe at least 1 or 2 teams are willing to part ways with thepieces it will take if they have him locked up for 9 years. Yeah for sure. And I agree it’s most likely an extension being agreed with before a team acquires him. But it IS ultimately up to Karlsson is all I’m saying.. I know there’s almost no chance he actually hits UFA, but until he signs an extension somewhere I’ll keep up the wishful thinking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 I thought it was generally understood/assumed that Karlsson would be going to market next July...? That if he's traded, it likely wouldn't be a sign-and-trade dealy...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,477 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Dabura said: I thought it was generally understood/assumed that Karlsson would be going to market next July...? That if he's traded, it likely wouldn't be a sign-and-trade dealy...? He's negotiating with other teams now, or at least been given permission to. So if he wanted a contract it could be he agrees to one before the trade. No one knows what will happen for sure, we have to wait and see I guess. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, Euro_Twins said: He's negotiating with other teams now, or at least been given permission to. So if he wanted a contract it could be he agrees to one before the trade. No one knows what will happen for sure, we have to wait and see I guess. Ah, thanks for the update! I was out of the loop. Welp, guess we're boned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 Looks like Faulk is surplus in Carolina with them signing DeHaan. Could Kenny be in a trade mode ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Andy Pred 48 said: Looks like Faulk is surplus in Carolina with them signing DeHaan. Could Kenny be in a trade mode ? I hope not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Andy Pred 48 said: Looks like Faulk is surplus in Carolina with them signing DeHaan. Could Kenny be in a trade mode ? Depending on what they want for Faulk, I’m interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 How funny would it be if Howard were traded in a package to Carolina just because he’d be starting ahead of Mrazek again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,015 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, marcaractac said: I hope not Explain plz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 Faulk reminds me of a younger version of Green. I'd be open to a trade for him for sure, depending on the cost... 3 e_prime, Dabura and Keep Your Stick On the Ice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, krsmith17 said: Faulk reminds me of a younger version of Green. I'd be open to a trade for him for sure, depending on the cost... what does carolina need or want? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, e_prime said: what does carolina need or want? Svechnikovs. More Svechnikovs. They do seem to have a fetish for men in Red uniforms. Edited July 4, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie 1 Keep Your Stick On the Ice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Svechnikovs. More Svechnikovs. Wingers are a dime a dozen, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, e_prime said: what does carolina need or want? 4 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Svechnikovs. More Svechnikovs. The do seem to have a fetish for men in Red uniforms. Yeah, you'd have to think Svechnikov would be part of the package. What else it would take to get the deal done, I have no idea. I wouldn't give up a hell of a lot though. Faulk would be a huge add, but being 26 years old now, he'll be nearing 30 when we're ready to contend. He's also 2 years away from unrestricted free agency. He could walk, and we're left without 2-3 key pieces... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, e_prime said: Wingers are a dime a dozen, no? Normally yes. But I can see how bringing in the elder Svech bro after the hype over drafting his younger brother might be a good marketing gimmick for them. They could try to sell it like the Sedins in Vancouver. I definitely think that Carolina would give the biggest return and they happen to have something we need. Edited July 4, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Explain plz His numbers have been in decline these past couple of seasons. By the time the Wings contend, he would be older and likely worse than what he has been. A rebuilding team should not be trading for a second pairing at best dman when he'd hit his 30s before we contend again. There is also no guarantee he would even stick around for this team to contend, being a UFA in a couple of seasons. The move makes no sense for this team right now. Trading for Faulk is something a team does to gear up for a playoff run. Not something the Wings should be doing right now. Holland gotta keep thinking long term here. Faulk is a short term fix. No thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Faulk reminds me of a younger version of Green. I'd be open to a trade for him for sure, depending on the cost... yep and yep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, marcaractac said: His numbers have been in decline these past couple of seasons. By the time the Wings contend, he would be older and likely worse than what he has been. A rebuilding team should not be trading for a second pairing at best dman when he'd hit his 30s before we contend again. There is also no guarantee he would even stick around for this team to contend, being a UFA in a couple of seasons. The move makes no sense for this team right now. Trading for Faulk is something a team does to gear up for a playoff run. Not something the Wings should be doing right now. Holland gotta keep thinking long term here. Faulk is a short term fix. No thanks. Yeah, pretty much my thoughts exactly. I was a huge Faulk fan a few years ago, still am, but I don't think it's the ideal move for us right now. If we're trading with Carolina, I'd prefer to go after Bean. He would likely be a fair bit cheaper, under team control, doesn't hit restricted free agency for another 3 seasons, and would likely re-sign at a reasonable cap hit, and is right in that age group with the rest of our young core. He may not ever become as good as Faulk (I think he will), but we wouldn't be paying the high price either. 1 marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmbongreyst 14 Report post Posted July 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Normally yes. But I can see how bringing in the elder Svech bro after the hype over drafting his younger brother might be a good marketing gimmick for them. They could try to sell it like the Second in Vancouver. I definitely think that Carolina would give the biggest return and they happen to have something we need. The Hurricanes don’t need to look at Vancouver for inspiration when they did the same thing with the Staal brothers. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites