Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted August 24, 2018 14 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Imagine having Hughes - Larkin - Veleno - Turgeon as our four centers... Talk about speed down the middle... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) Here are some lines IF Zetterberg plays and Glenny is traded. If we want Zadina and Rasmussen up, The cap will just not work if Zetterberg plays, UNLESS there is a trade like Nyquist or Glenny. Even after waiving Witko and Frk we are still $25,000 over the cap. If Zetterberg plays (which I have maintained all summer that he won't) there MUST be a trade or we will not see Zadina or Rasmussen up here. Until a LTIR injury of course. Here is your roster WITH Zetterberg playing, no trade and of course no Zadina or Rasmussen...pathetic. (no, not lines, just roster) Edited January 7, 2021 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted August 24, 2018 39 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Here are some lines IF Zetterberg plays and Glenny is traded. If we want Zadina and Rasmussen up, The cap will just not work if Zetterberg plays, UNLESS there is a trade like Nyquist or Glenny. Even after waiving Witko and Frk we are still $25,000 over the cap. If Zetterberg plays (which I have maintained all summer that he won't) there MUST be a trade or we will not see Zadina or Rasmussen up here. Until a LTIR injury of course. Here is your roster WITH Zetterberg playing, no trade and of course no Zadina or Rasmussen...pathetic. (no, not lines, just roster) If we go with Khan's take, then Z "won't be ready" (i.e. is done) and all three of Rasmussen, Zadina, Hronek will be on the opening night roster. Even if Z plays, we know Rasmussen is pretty much guaranteed to make the team out of camp. So, no matter what happens with Z, we're getting at least one new kid right away. Z playing could indeed mean that Zadina starts the season in Grand Rapids, which would be disappointing. But he wouldn't be there long. If Holland does decide to make a trade before the puck drops on Game 1, I'm thinking it's Jensen or Nyquist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) On 8/24/2018 at 3:07 PM, Dabura said: If we go with Khan's take, then Z "won't be ready" (i.e. is done) and all three of Rasmussen, Zadina, Hronek will be on the opening night roster. Even if Z plays, we know Rasmussen is pretty much guaranteed to make the team out of camp. So, no matter what happens with Z, we're getting at least one new kid right away. Z playing could indeed mean that Zadina starts the season in Grand Rapids, which would be disappointing. But he wouldn't be there long. If Holland does decide to make a trade before the puck drops on Game 1, I'm thinking it's Jensen or Nyquist. No cap room for Rasmussen without a trade or waiving Frk. If Zetterberg plays, there WILL HAVE to be a trade in order to promote Rasmussen. If no trade, then no kids. Period. Unless you waive BOTH Witko and Frk. Basically if Zetterberg plays, no kids. If Zetterberg LTIR, Three kids at least. Edited January 7, 2021 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: No cap room for Rasmussen without a trade or waiving Frk. If Zetterberg plays, there WILL HAVE to be a trade in order to promote Rasmussen. If no trade, then no kids. Period. Unless you waive BOTH Witko and Frk. Basically if Zetterberg plays, no kids. If Zetterberg LTIR, Three kids at least. I'd gladly waive Frk and Witkowski, and a surprising amount of others on this team as well But you are correct. If Zberg plays the team will have to explore trade options. Custance says he's already heard that from 1 Red Wings source. 1 Neomaxizoomdweebie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: Here are some lines IF Zetterberg plays and Glenny is traded. If we want Zadina and Rasmussen up, The cap will just not work if Zetterberg plays, UNLESS there is a trade like Nyquist or Glenny. Even after waiving Witko and Frk we are still $25,000 over the cap. If Zetterberg plays (which I have maintained all summer that he won't) there MUST be a trade or we will not see Zadina or Rasmussen up here. Until a LTIR injury of course. Here is your roster WITH Zetterberg playing, no trade and of course no Zadina or Rasmussen...pathetic. (no, not lines, just roster) Kicking Z and Trading Glenny is not required to make room. As was said, there are waiver and trade options to make room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: No cap room for Rasmussen without a trade or waiving Frk. If Zetterberg plays, there WILL HAVE to be a trade in order to promote Rasmussen. If no trade, then no kids. Period. Unless you waive BOTH Witko and Frk. Basically if Zetterberg plays, no kids. If Zetterberg LTIR, Three kids at least. We waived Frk two years ago for AA. Then we spent 80% of last year force feeding him one-timers on the PP and he scored the same number of goals as Glendening. If it comes to it we will waive Frk to make room for Rasmussen. Also, there is already room under the cap to fit Hicketts, and replacing Frk would allow us to upgrade to Hronek instead. Or if we kept Hicketts, and instead replaced Jensen with Hronek, we could then waive Witko for Zadina. Or we could also do that without replacing Jensen if Frk was claimed by someone (though I don't see much reason to keep Jensen). In short, Ras will be on the team, as will one of Hicketts or Hronek. Frk and Zadina will depend on Zetterberg/other injuries/trades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted August 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buppy said: We waived Frk two years ago for AA. Then we spent 80% of last year force feeding him one-timers on the PP and he scored the same number of goals as Glendening. If it comes to it we will waive Frk to make room for Rasmussen. Also, there is already room under the cap to fit Hicketts, and replacing Frk would allow us to upgrade to Hronek instead. Or if we kept Hicketts, and instead replaced Jensen with Hronek, we could then waive Witko for Zadina. Or we could also do that without replacing Jensen if Frk was claimed by someone (though I don't see much reason to keep Jensen). In short, Ras will be on the team, as will one of Hicketts or Hronek. Frk and Zadina will depend on Zetterberg/other injuries/trades. Right. We've finally reached that point where NHL virgins making the team out of camp is something to be expected. It's a brave new world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted August 24, 2018 I agree, there are a lot of scenarios and options. Which is why the sky is not falling. I'd love a way to keep Frk and Witko as our extras and have all of Rasmussen, Zadina and Hronek on the team. Ufortunately, that will only be an option at the expense of Zetterberg LTIR or a Trade of some significant salary. ie...Nyquist. BUT I, as all of you do, believe that Nyquist value will be highest at the TDL, so we'll see what happens come October. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: I agree, there are a lot of scenarios and options. Which is why the sky is not falling. I'd love a way to keep Frk and Witko as our extras and have all of Rasmussen, Zadina and Hronek on the team. Ufortunately, that will only be an option at the expense of Zetterberg LTIR or a Trade of some significant salary. ie...Nyquist. BUT I, as all of you do, believe that Nyquist value will be highest at the TDL, so we'll see what happens come October. Personally, I'm expecting an injury or two in training camp. Deus ex machina, baybee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted August 25, 2018 https://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2018/08/red_wings_to_reduce_niklas_kro.html#incart_river_index Quote The Red Wings are counting on Filip Hronek to earn a roster spot. yayyyyy Quote Kronwall likely will continue playing on the power play. boooooo 1 1 Wheelchairsuperhero and Neomaxizoomdweebie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Quinn is the Dman. Jack is the center. But he's quick too. I do imagine that!!! Yes, I was talking about Jack Hughes... Why would I be talking about Quinn Hughes?... 1 The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,015 Report post Posted August 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Quinn is Jack's brother that just got drafted. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted August 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Quinn is Jack's brother that just got drafted. Luke is Quinn's and Jack's younger brother. Jim is Quinn, Jack and Luke's father. Ellen is Quinn, Jack and Luke's mother. ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted August 25, 2018 Howard Hughes is generational. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) Dan "The Mighty" Quinn? On 8/25/2018 at 11:02 AM, Dabura said: Howard Hughes is generational. It's the way of the future. Edited January 7, 2021 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted August 25, 2018 Jackman Grant Laurie, Hughs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 So, now that all of you are on the same dial as I am/was with Zetterberg, what do you say for lineups? I'm going with my original (except Larkin at a bit more cap hit) with Rasmussen, Zadina and Hronek being the roster winners. I know Blashill said he will put AA at 3rd line center, so that'll change things up a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: So, now that all of you are on the same dial as I am/was with Zetterberg, what do you say for lineups? I'm going with my original (except Larkin at a bit more cap hit) with Rasmussen, Zadina and Hronek being the roster winners. I know Blashill said he will put AA at 3rd line center, so that'll change things up a bit. Have to assume Rasmussen, Zadina, Hronek all make the cut. It's also worth pointing out that decidedly fringue guys now have an easier path to claiming a roster spot. Specifically: (one or two of) Pope, Hicketts, Sulak, Cholowski, Svechnikov. Maybe Svechnikov outplays Zadina in camp and pushes Zadina down to the AHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteLightning91 105 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 BERTUZZI - LARKIN - MANTHA VANEK - NIELSEN - ZADINA RASMUSSEN - ATHANASIOU - NYQUIST ADELKADER - GLENDENNING - HELM (FRK, WITKOWSKI) DEKEYSER - GREEN ERICSSON - DALEY KRONWALL - HRONEK (JENSEN) 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) Holmstrom - Datsyuk - Zetterberg Fedorov - Yzerman - Shanahan Hull - Robataille - Zadina McCarty - Draper - Maltby White - Witkowski Dekeyser - Ericsson Smith - Marchenko (Lashoff) MacDonald Lamothe Edited August 29, 2018 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, LeftWinger said: So, now that all of you are on the same dial as I am/was with Zetterberg, what do you say for lineups? I'm going with my original (except Larkin at a bit more cap hit) with Rasmussen, Zadina and Hronek being the roster winners. I know Blashill said he will put AA at 3rd line center, so that'll change things up a bit. They really lubed us up for the s*** news didn't they Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteLightning91 105 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, kickazz said: Holmstrom - Datsyuk - Zetterberg Fedorov - Yzerman - Shanahan Hull - Robataille - Zadina McCarty - Draper - Maltby White - Witkowski Dekeyser - Ericsson Smith - Marchenko (Lashoff) MacDonald Lamothe No way Lamothe gets the nod over Maracle. Speaking of Norm, definitely a starter for the all-time "fitness be damned" team. Guy played at 5-9, almost 200lbs. Edited August 30, 2018 by WhiteLightning91 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted August 30, 2018 5 hours ago, LeftWinger said: So, now that all of you are on the same dial as I am/was with Zetterberg, what do you say for lineups? I'm going with my original (except Larkin at a bit more cap hit) with Rasmussen, Zadina and Hronek being the roster winners. I know Blashill said he will put AA at 3rd line center, so that'll change things up a bit. I'm not. It's not official that Z is "done". He'll miss training camp and the start of the season. That's all that's been said about it. Even if Z is done, it had nothing to do with Larkin's contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: I'm not. It's not official that Z is "done". He'll miss training camp and the start of the season. That's all that's been said about it. Even if Z is done, it had nothing to do with Larkin's contract. Now that Z is done, everyone's contract on the team has become more affordable and thus more team-friendly. Zberg was a burden and relief of his cap is a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites