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20 hours ago, HoweFan said:

Suppose we end up drafting third. Hughes and Kakko are gone. Who do you pick?

I'd consider trading back. Cozens is #3 on my list (at the moment), but it isn't by much; Krebs, Newhook, et al. are right there with him.

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Craig's List: Hughes stays ahead of Kakko after World Juniors [TSN]

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Kakko put his name in the World Junior history books by scoring the winning goal for Finland Saturday night in the gold-medal game against the U.S.

While Kakko had a strong tournament, I still don’t see a better player available in this draft than Hughes, who was limited by injury at the World Juniors but has been outstanding with the U.S. National Development U18 Team this season.

Instead, Kakko is in a race with Russian right wing Vasili Podkolzin (No. 3) and Lethbridge Hurricanes centre Dylan Cozens (No. 4) to establish the second-best prospect in this draft class.

Button's top 10:

  1. Jack Hughes (C)
  2. Kaapo Kakko (RW/C)
  3. Vasili Podkolzin (RW)
  4. Dylan Cozens (C)
  5. Philip Broberg (D)
  6. Trevor Zegras (C)
  7. Matthew Boldy (LW)
  8. Kirby Dach (C)
  9. Arthur Kaliyev (RW)
  10. Bowen Byram (D)
Edited by Dabura

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1 hour ago, Dabura said:

F*** the Senators. F***ing dinguses are going to gift the f***ing Avs a franchise player.

Terrible trade (Duchene), made worse by not giving up the pick (Tkachuk) in last year's draft... Everybody (except Sens management) knew it was a terrible decision at the time. What a train wreck of an organization... 

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yep, right now Ottawa sits dead last with the best odds to get the #1. Meaning, ugh, Jack Hughes to the Avs.

We just need to sell at the deadline, all the players that we are talking about and get as many picks/prospect in return and hit dead bottom before the season ends. Still, Avs are pretty much guaranteed a top 5 pick. Bleh!

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1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

yep, right now Ottawa sits dead last with the best odds to get the #1. Meaning, ugh, Jack Hughes to the Avs.

We just need to sell at the deadline, all the players that we are talking about and get as many picks/prospect in return and hit dead bottom before the season ends. Still, Avs are pretty much guaranteed a top 5 pick. Bleh!

But wait all the teams below us have games in hand.!!!

Team              GP Pts

Detroit            45   39

St Louis          41   38 + 8 possible points

LA                   44   37 + 2 possible

Philly               43   36 +4 possible

Dumpster        43  35 +4 possible 

Soo they all win their games we drop into a tie for da bottom

St Louis 46

Philly      40

LA           39

Detroit     39

Dumpster 39

So don't give up the ship yet on that 31st place. I want a bottom 2 finish at a minimum. We lose 5% in the odds of getting number 1 if 2nd but worst case we get a top 5 pick.

So say we finish in a 3 way tie with LA and Dumpster Fire.

Does it go head to head then ROW?

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2 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

But wait all the teams below us have games in hand.!!!

Team              GP Pts

Detroit            45   39

St Louis          41   38 + 8 possible points

LA                   44   37 + 2 possible

Philly               43   36 +4 possible

Dumpster        43  35 +4 possible 

Soo they all win their games we drop into a tie for da bottom

               Pts     ROW

St Louis 46         17

Philly      40         13

LA           39        16

Dumpster 39      15

Detroit     39       14

 

So don't give up the ship yet on that 31st place. I want a bottom 2 finish at a minimum. We lose 5% in the odds of getting number 1 if 2nd but worst case we get a top 5 pick.

So say we finish in a 3 way tie with LA and Dumpster Fire.

Does it go head to head then ROW?

With the ROW info added into the current true-up with assumptions above ....

Hello Mr Hughes welcome to Detroit !!!

See folks we are super close to winning the jackpot! Now we need POSITIVE vibes from everyone to make it a reality. 

I hope we have 31st in hand before I go see the Wings play the last game of the year. Would be crappy to root against them on my annual trip to MI

 

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7 hours ago, Dabura said:

2014-Redraft.jpg

 

Just for comparison, here is the actual draft fom 2014

#1 Florida Panthers 3.png Aaron Ekblad (D) 5 350 61 90 151 223
#2 Buffalo Sabres 3.png Sam Reinhart (F) 5 292 74 106 180 52
#3 Edmonton Oilers 21.png Leon Draisaitl (F) 5 312 98 161 259 92
#4 Calgary Flames 3.png Sam Bennett (F) 5 284 48 56 104 241
#5 New York Islanders 3.png Michael Dal Colle (F) 2 11 0 1 1 2
#6 Vancouver Canucks 3.png Jake Virtanen (F) 4 185 28 24 52 119
#7 Carolina Hurricanes 3.png Haydn Fleury (D) 2 77 0 9 9 14
#8 Toronto Maple Leafs 1.png William Nylander (F) 4 199 49 89 138 58
#9 Winnipeg Jets 7.png Nikolaj Ehlers (F) 4 276 84 105 189 98
#10 Anaheim Ducks 3.png Nick Ritchie (F) 4 215 31 45 76 199
#11 Nashville Predators 10.png Kevin Fiala (F) 5 185 43 48 91 66
#12 Phoenix Coyotes 3.png Brendan Perlini (F) 3 174 36 25 61 68
#13 Washington Capitals 8.png Jakub Vrána (F) 3 136 30 27 57 28
#14 Dallas Stars 2.png Julius Honka (D) 3 84 2 11 13 28
#15 Detroit Red Wings 6.png Dylan Larkin (F) 4 287 74 107 181 173
#16 Columbus Blue Jackets 6.png Sonny Milano (F) 4 70 15 9 24 10
#17 Philadelphia Flyers 3.png Travis Sanheim (D) 2 92 6 17 23 28
#18 Minnesota Wild 6.png Alex Tuch (F) 3 122 29 42 71 33
#19 Tampa Bay Lightning 6.png Tony DeAngelo (D) 3 97 7 24 31 85
#20 Chicago Blackhawks 6.png Nick Schmaltz (F) 3 179 34 71 105 32
#21 St. Louis Blues 3.png Robby Fabbri (F) 4 142 31 39 70 56
#22 Pittsburgh Penguins 2.png Kasperi Kapanen (F) 4 97 22 13 35 20
#23 Colorado Avalanche 3.png Conner Bleackley (F)            
#24 Vancouver Canucks 3.png Jared McCann (F) 4 206 26 44 70 80
#25 Boston Bruins 8.png David Pastrnak (F) 5 297 119 136 255 117
#26 Montréal Canadiens 9.png Nikita Scherbak (F) 3 37 6 2 8 10
#27 San Jose Sharks 9.png Nikolay Goldobin (F) 4 103 17 25 42 18
#28 New York Islanders 3.png Joshua Ho-Sang (F) 3 53 7 17 24 20
#29 Los Angeles Kings 1.png Adrian Kempe (F) 3 149 23 32 55 85
#30 New Jersey Devils 3.png John Quenneville (F) 3 29 1 3 4 6

Who did real good in this draft?  Image result for ken holland

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3 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

 

Just for comparison, here is the actual draft fom 2014

#1 Florida Panthers 3.png Aaron Ekblad (D) 5 350 61 90 151 223
#2 Buffalo Sabres 3.png Sam Reinhart (F) 5 292 74 106 180 52
#3 Edmonton Oilers 21.png Leon Draisaitl (F) 5 312 98 161 259 92
#4 Calgary Flames 3.png Sam Bennett (F) 5 284 48 56 104 241
#5 New York Islanders 3.png Michael Dal Colle (F) 2 11 0 1 1 2
#6 Vancouver Canucks 3.png Jake Virtanen (F) 4 185 28 24 52 119
#7 Carolina Hurricanes 3.png Haydn Fleury (D) 2 77 0 9 9 14
#8 Toronto Maple Leafs 1.png William Nylander (F) 4 199 49 89 138 58
#9 Winnipeg Jets 7.png Nikolaj Ehlers (F) 4 276 84 105 189 98
#10 Anaheim Ducks 3.png Nick Ritchie (F) 4 215 31 45 76 199
#11 Nashville Predators 10.png Kevin Fiala (F) 5 185 43 48 91 66
#12 Phoenix Coyotes 3.png Brendan Perlini (F) 3 174 36 25 61 68
#13 Washington Capitals 8.png Jakub Vrána (F) 3 136 30 27 57 28
#14 Dallas Stars 2.png Julius Honka (D) 3 84 2 11 13 28
#15 Detroit Red Wings 6.png Dylan Larkin (F) 4 287 74 107 181 173
#16 Columbus Blue Jackets 6.png Sonny Milano (F) 4 70 15 9 24 10
#17 Philadelphia Flyers 3.png Travis Sanheim (D) 2 92 6 17 23 28
#18 Minnesota Wild 6.png Alex Tuch (F) 3 122 29 42 71 33
#19 Tampa Bay Lightning 6.png Tony DeAngelo (D) 3 97 7 24 31 85
#20 Chicago Blackhawks 6.png Nick Schmaltz (F) 3 179 34 71 105 32
#21 St. Louis Blues 3.png Robby Fabbri (F) 4 142 31 39 70 56
#22 Pittsburgh Penguins 2.png Kasperi Kapanen (F) 4 97 22 13 35 20
#23 Colorado Avalanche 3.png Conner Bleackley (F)            
#24 Vancouver Canucks 3.png Jared McCann (F) 4 206 26 44 70 80
#25 Boston Bruins 8.png David Pastrnak (F) 5 297 119 136 255 117
#26 Montréal Canadiens 9.png Nikita Scherbak (F) 3 37 6 2 8 10
#27 San Jose Sharks 9.png Nikolay Goldobin (F) 4 103 17 25 42 18
#28 New York Islanders 3.png Joshua Ho-Sang (F) 3 53 7 17 24 20
#29 Los Angeles Kings 1.png Adrian Kempe (F) 3 149 23 32 55 85
#30 New Jersey Devils 3.png John Quenneville (F) 3 29 1 3 4  

Who did real good in this draft?  Image result for ken holland

Who did better?

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I love redrafts. They're proof positive that the talent in the first round is WAY closer than what everyone makes it out to be in most instances.  Year after year we hear about "tiers" and how such and such guys are heads and tails better than such and such guys.  And then they aren't.  It's great to see how little anybody actually knows about how these kids will turn out. 

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38 minutes ago, Dabura said:

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED
Bottom three

https://www.nhl.com/standings/2018/league

Flyers 1 point back (with a game in hand), and Kings 2 points back...

What is going on in Philly and LA? How is a team with Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Van Riemsdyk, Simmonds, Konecny, Patrick, Provorov, Gostisbehere, Sanheim 2nd last in the NHL??? How is a team with Kopitar, Kovalchuk, Carter, Brown, Taffoli, Doughty, Muzzin, Quick dead last in the NHL? Their core is getting old, and they should soon be looking to rebuild, but still. I don't think anyone could have predicted either of these teams to be THIS bad...

Either way, the Wings have a real shot at finishing this season dead last, and I think at worst we'll have top 3 odds in the draft lottery.

Sell, and sell hard at the deadline Kenny!

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3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

Flyers 1 point back (with a game in hand), and Kings 2 points back...

What is going on in Philly and LA? How is a team with Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Van Riemsdyk, Simmonds, Konecny, Patrick, Provorov, Gostisbehere, Sanheim 2nd last in the NHL???  8 goalies so far this season

How is a team with Kopitar, Kovalchuk, Carter, Brown, Taffoli, Doughty, Muzzin, Quick dead last in the NHL? Also, goaltendeing issues/injuries

 

 

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5 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

What is going on in Philly and LA? How is a team with Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Van Riemsdyk, Simmonds, Konecny, Patrick, Provorov, Gostisbehere, Sanheim 2nd last in the NHL??? How is a team with Kopitar, Kovalchuk, Carter, Brown, Taffoli, Doughty, Muzzin, Quick dead last in the NHL? Their core is getting old, and they should soon be looking to rebuild, but still. I don't think anyone could have predicted either of these teams to be THIS bad...

Drugs?

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