The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, ChristopherReevesLegs said: If you ever see me over there, I like to be a complete turd burger on that board. It's the persona I'm cultivating, and is in no way reflective of my role on this team. On that board? 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, The 91 of Ryans said: On that board? Over there the role I'm going for is arrogant rude turd burger. Over here I've resigned myself to arrogant rude turd burger + silly banter. Big difference 1 The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,771 Report post Posted October 15, 2019 Good to see Rasmussen dominating in GR. Scoring at a better clip than Mantha in his short-lived, final, stint in the AHL. If he keeps playing like this, and we get a few lucky injuries, he and Svech might be able to start plugging that crater in our middle six forward lines. 4 The 91 of Ryans, krsmith17, Akakabuto and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted October 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Good to see Rasmussen dominating in GR. Scoring at a better clip than Mantha in his short-lived, final, stint in the AHL. If he keeps playing like this, and we get a few lucky injuries, he and Svech might be able to start plugging that crater in our middle six forward lines. The best part is he's doing it as a center. Where he belongs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: The best part is he's doing it as a center. Where he belongs. ya damn right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Good to see Rasmussen dominating in GR. Scoring at a better clip than Mantha in his short-lived, final, stint in the AHL. If he keeps playing like this, and we get a few lucky injuries, he and Svech might be able to start plugging that crater in our middle six forward lines. He's looked good. I don't think it's reasonable to expect him to keep up his current pace, but if he can stay close to a point per game for another dozen or so games, I'd like to see him get another shot in Detroit. 10 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: The best part is he's doing it as a center. Where he belongs. I have to admit, he's been doing quite well down the middle. If he can be a more productive version of Brain Boyle, I'd be thrilled. I still have no idea why we brought in Filppula, especially since he's been rotating between center / wing on Nielsen's line. I want one or both of these guys gone by next season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted October 15, 2019 https://dobberprospects.com/prospect-ramblings-junior-tournament-in-finland-oct-15/ Quote Ässät U20 defenseman Antti Tuomisto (DET) is just too good for the junior level (he has to stay there because he’s going to NCAA). He plays huge minutes and controls the game whenever he’s on the ice. I haven’t seen a better defenseman in the league this season – not even anyone who comes close, actually. He still makes mistakes at times, especially in the defensive zone. But the way he’s in total command of the game all the time is beyond impressive. 2 1 Akakabuto, krsmith17 and Wings3:16 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 663 Report post Posted October 15, 2019 Poor Svech. His first two pro seasons he gets off to slow starts. Then he misses an entire season. Now he gets 3 points in the Griffin's first game just to get called up to detroit and sit in the press box 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Dabura said: https://dobberprospects.com/prospect-ramblings-junior-tournament-in-finland-oct-15/ I am Pro Antti Tuomisto. Is that an oxymoron? 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 663 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: I am Pro Antti Tuomisto. Is that an oxymoron? If Toumisto is the real deal we could have Seider, Hronek and Toumisto on the right side on defense. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: I am Pro Antti Tuomisto. Is that an oxymoron? All of a sudden I feel the urge to play a Gran Turismo game. 15 minutes ago, TLGTrico said: If Toumisto is the real deal we could have Seider, Hronek and Toumisto on the right side on defense. yes plz Edited October 16, 2019 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, TLGTrico said: If Toumisto is the real deal we could have Seider, Hronek and Toumisto on the right side on defense. We also have Regula on the right side. 10 points (4 goals, 6 assists) through his first 5 games this season. 2021 Cholowski - Seider McIsaac - Hronek DeKeyser - Regula Tuomisto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 I know I've said we should be patient with our prospects and let them further develop in Grand Rapids... but man, some of these vets are hard to watch in Detroit... Nielsen and Filppula need to be traded at some point before next season. Erne, Ehn, de la Rose, Green, Daley and Ericsson need to be let go... Next season... Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha Lafreniere - Veleno - Athanasiou Svechnikov - Rasmussen - Zadina Hirose - Glendening - Abdelkader / Helm DeKeyser - Hronek Nemeth - Seider Cholowski - Bowey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 13 hours ago, krsmith17 said: We also have Regula on the right side. 10 points (4 goals, 6 assists) through his first 5 games this season. 2021 Cholowski - Seider McIsaac - Hronek DeKeyser - Regula Tuomisto Be alot better when dekeyser is done + doesnt count guys who might be one time a redwing in johansson, lindstrom, moore (started the bchl later than cholowski and older but but looks like he’ll get more goals in his first season than cholowski did ,so might be some hope?) and maybe we get someone with our early second or through a AA trade ... i think our d is finally coming nicely and i do think in 20-21 and 21-22 this team will be coming in strong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Be alot better when dekeyser is done ... Why? DeKeyser is a solid top 4 defenseman on any team in the league. He was certainly missed last night... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, krsmith17 said: I know I've said we should be patient with our prospects and let them further develop in Grand Rapids... but man, some of these vets are hard to watch in Detroit... Nielsen and Filppula need to be traded at some point before next season. Erne, Ehn, de la Rose, Green, Daley and Ericsson need to be let go... Next season... Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha Lafreniere - Veleno - Athanasiou Svechnikov - Rasmussen - Zadina Hirose - Glendening - Abdelkader / Helm DeKeyser - Hronek Nemeth - Seider Cholowski - Bowey Filppula haha, still cant believe we got him and i got s*** for giving up a early 4th for erne and hes been non existant .... and if we cant get rid of abdelkader at 50% off to like an arizona type team thay values higher cap and less $ attached with say vegas’s 3rd pick or something i would personally just say f*** it man and buy the f***** out , last three years of the 6 year buyout is a million so wed be ok next three years with cheaper contracts from the kids I look forward to our lineup finally looking something like this Bertuzzi larkin mantha lafraniere veleno zadina mastrosimone rasmussen berggren Smith pearson grewe (player landed from a AA blockbuster type deal.... bean if were lucky?) seider cholowski hronek mcisaac tuomisto Anyways i think this team is gonna kick ass real soon and that lineup doesnt even include svechnikov who i havent given up on or a soderblom whos looking good or someone else who might come out of nowhere futures good 7 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Why? DeKeyser is a solid top 4 defenseman on any team in the league. He was certainly missed last night... I just dont see him in the longterm future of the team Thats all , cant see us resigning him when his deals up Edited October 16, 2019 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: ... i got s*** for giving up a early 4th for erne and hes been non existant ... Erne has been awful, but the likelihood of that trade ever coming back to bight Yzerman in the ass is slim to none. Even if Erne doesn't play another game for the Red Wings, he will likely have played 6 more games than whoever we might have taken with that 4th round pick in next year's draft. I'm sure you'll point to all the 4th round steals, but I'll point to all the 4th round nothings. The odds just aren't there beyond the 2nd/3rd round of the draft. You put way too much value on mid to late round draft picks. Trading a 4th or later for a young, bottom six winger is not a bad trade, even if it's just to plug a hole. My only issue with that trade was, I didn't believe there was a hole there to begin with. I think any number of players in Grand Rapids (Puempel, Kuffner, Turgeon, Pearson, Smith, etc.) could have filled the role Erne currently occupies, likely better... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Filppula haha, still cant believe we got him and i got s*** for giving up a early 4th for erne and hes been non existant .... and if we cant get rid of abdelkader at 50% off to like an arizona type team thay values higher cap and less $ attached with say vegas’s 3rd pick or something i would personally just say f*** it man and buy the f***** out , last three years of the 6 year buyout is a million so wed be ok next three years with cheaper contracts from the kids I look forward to our lineup finally looking something like this Bertuzzi larkin mantha lafraniere veleno zadina mastrosimone rasmussen berggren Smith pearson grewe (player landed from a AA blockbuster type deal.... bean if were lucky?) seider cholowski hronek mcisaac tuomisto Anyways i think this team is gonna kick ass real soon and that lineup doesnt even include svechnikov who i havent given up on or a soderblom whos looking good or someone else who might come out of nowhere futures good I just dont see him in the longterm future of the team Thats all , cant see us resigning him when his deals up Jack Hughes: 6 GP, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 points, -4 Nikita Gusev: 6 GP, 2 goals, 1 assist, 3 points, 0 +/- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Nikita Gusev: 6 GP, 2 goals, 1 assist, 3 points, 0 +/- Not worth a 2nd round pick... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Erne has been awful, but the likelihood of that trade ever coming back to bight Yzerman in the ass is slim to none. Even if Erne doesn't play another game for the Red Wings, he will likely have played 6 more games than whoever we might have taken with that 4th round pick in next year's draft. I'm sure you'll point to all the 4th round steals, but I'll point to all the 4th round nothings. The odds just aren't there beyond the 2nd/3rd round of the draft. You put way too much value on mid to late round draft picks. Trading a 4th or later for a young, bottom six winger is not a bad trade, even if it's just to plug a hole. My only issue with that trade was, I didn't believe there was a hole there to begin with. I think any number of players in Grand Rapids (Puempel, Kuffner, Turgeon, Pearson, Smith, etc.) could have filled the role Erne currently occupies, likely better... Well course it wont come back to bite him cause we would never know who wed have taken, and if tampa selects someone say at 94 that could have been our pick and becomes a star doesnf mean wed have taken that player (hate when ppl bring that up in past trades) just think early 90s can still be a good pick with someone dropping who was ranked in the 2nd-3rd rounds but whatever , i hope he turns it around and becomes a physical player at least The more picks we have the more chances we have of landing a star player its pretty simple regardless of the percentages , your not gonna get any argument with me over the fact that we have a bunch of kids who should be getting chances with the big club, you know ive liked pearson , smith ... svechnikov and kuffner will be getting looks and not to mention veleno,zadina,rasmussen. We should be concentrating on taking out crap rather than adding more guys 14 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Jack Hughes: 6 GP, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 points, -4 Nikita Gusev: 6 GP, 2 goals, 1 assist, 3 points, 0 +/- When hughes is on the ice devils control 54% of the scoring chances compared to 36% gusev gusev is also 9 yrs older than hughes ....hes on pace for 35- 40 pts so i wouldnt be bragging about the next panarin just yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Not worth a 2nd round pick... Here we go 3 pts and were starting this nonsense Edited October 16, 2019 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: When hughes is on the ice devils control 54% of the scoring chances compared to 36% gusev What stat is that? Gusev's CF% is 31.03. Hughes CF% is 45.45. Hughes also has ZERO defensive zone starts, Gusev is being deployed as a two-way forward in all 3 zones, in fact he has only 3 offensive zone starts, and 9 defensive zone starts. 15 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: gusev is also 9 yrs older than hughes ....hes on pace for 35- 40 pts so i wouldnt be bragging about the next panarin just yet So he's worth a 2nd round pick? Edited October 16, 2019 by ChristopherReevesLegs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: What stat is that? Gusev's CF% is 31.03. Hughes CF% is 45.45. Hughes also has ZERO defensive zone starts, Gusev is being deployed as a two-way forward in all 3 zones, in fact he has only 3 offensive zone starts, and 9 defensive zone starts. So he's worth a 2nd round pick? So hes a defensive specialist now which explains his 35-40 pts pace? Why didnt you just say that 4 months ago hes worth whatever makes your heart skip a beat when hes back checking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: So hes a defensive specialist now which explains his 35-40 pts pace? Why didnt you just say that 4 months ago hes worth whatever makes your heart skip a beat when hes back checking Two-way forward who plays in all zones means defensive specialist to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
