Dylan Larkin Is Soft

[bIueadams 776]

4 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

You had Seider pegged as a Chelios/Pronger/Lidstrom hybrid. Lets wait until he is winning multiple Norris trophies and other hardware before the "I told you so".

No thank you. I told you all Seider was the best defender in the draft b4 SY even picked him. He's lived up to that hype and then some. Suck me.

[Scott R Lucidi 454]

On 4/19/2022 at 8:00 PM, diehardredwingsfan58 said:

Ask Justin Verlander, he had the exact same surgery a few year ago.

https://www.meganwolfmd.com/core-muscle-repair-orthopedic-sports-medicine-specialist-winston-salem-nc/#:~:text=Core muscle repair is a,abdomen%2C typically the rectus abdominis.

Same thing Draper and Lidstrom needed a while back.

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

On 4/19/2022 at 11:00 PM, diehardredwingsfan58 said:

Ask Justin Verlander, he had the exact same surgery a few year ago.

Thats what happens when ur banging ur super hot GF all of the time. Those muscles get torn up.

 

[bIueadams 776]

Larks didnt get 1 Selke vote. Tatar got votes.

Explain.

 

 

[Akakabuto 1,751]

10 hours ago, bIueadams said:

Larks didnt get 1 Selke vote. Tatar got votes.

Explain.

 

 

Obv detroit media isnt trusted to vote on these matters

[TLGTrico 627]

Larkin is the second worst number one center in the Atlantic division.

[bIueadams 776]

7 minutes ago, TLGTrico said:

Larkin is the second worst number one center in the Atlantic division.

Ive felt for years that Dboss is overrated as a defensive center. Hes the best we have, but hes not among best in the league.

Been saying this for a couple seasons now, but i want more good bottom PK forwards like Helm or Glendog, that can take over for Larks on the PK. Larks is better used 5v5 and on the PP where he can do what hes meant to do and score.

[Axl Foley 224]

2 hours ago, TLGTrico said:

Larkin is the second worst number one center in the Atlantic division.

But you're admitting he is a 1C.

[TLGTrico 627]

Yeah, he's the 1c on a team that's finished bottom 10 in the league every year that he's been their 1C

[bIueadams 776]

2 hours ago, TLGTrico said:

Yeah, he's the 1c on a team that's finished bottom 10 in the league every year that he's been their 1C

Kasper will push him down a peg within the next few seasons.

[bIueadams 776]

Larkin and Berggren beefing, uh oh:

 

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

On 9/25/2023 at 5:54 PM, bIueadams said:

Larkin and Berggren beefing, uh oh:

 

This is gloving.  I realize this is felon level stuff for the Red Wings, but it's considered lame p u s s y material by the rest of the hockey world.

[bIueadams 776]

Ben Chiarot is faster than Dylan Larkin.

Let that sink in.

[Akakabuto 1,751]

5 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

This is gloving.  I realize this is felon level stuff for the Red Wings, but it's considered lame p u s s y material by the rest of the hockey world.

Seriously, though. How soft do you think the Wings are compared to the rest of the league? I don’t think there are any real tough teams out there anymore. 

Edited September 27, 2023 by Akakabuto

[kipwinger 8,524]

11 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

Seriously, though. How soft do you think the Wings are compared to the rest of the league? I don’t think there are any real tough teams out there anymore. 

What's tough? Fighting? Hitting? Blocking shots? Does toughness mean that you make the other team fight like h*ll for every single loose puck and in every single board battle? I'm not sure. I think our team a year ago failed at almost all of these, and was therefore not very "tough". But I thought Seattle was a pretty tough team a year ago. Florida too. I think this year's team should be better at all of the above as well.

[Akakabuto 1,751]

9 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

What's tough? Fighting? Hitting? Blocking shots? Does toughness mean that you make the other team fight like h*ll for every single loose puck and in every single board battle? I'm not sure. I think our team a year ago failed at almost all of these, and was therefore not very "tough". But I thought Seattle was a pretty tough team a year ago. Florida too. I think this year's team should be better at all of the above as well.

I guessed what Scott meant was hitting and fighting. 

[kipwinger 8,524]

6 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

I guessed what Scott meant was hitting and fighting. 

In that case I think Ras, Kostin, and Fischer are all pretty good at hitting and/or fighting. But I'd also say that Fabbri, Copp, Perron, and Compher are all underrated in that regard. Veleno too seemed to get more physical toward the end of last year.

I'm probably an outlier on this, but I think just having bigger, more athletic, guys tends to increase the physical wear and tear on the other team. Sodorblom isn't the "toughest" guy on earth but I guarantee getting run into the boards by him hurts worse than if Marchand did it. Or Brendan Galligher. Or Lemieux. Or many other guys who are noted for their "toughness".

In terms of pure, all around, toughness though I'd say Kostin is our main attraction. People are going to be pleasantly surprised by him. I watched almost all of Edmonton's playoff games last year and he was a force. Reminded me a lot of Tom Wilson. Big, strong, fast, mean, can hit, can fight, and loves to do so. He was a monster.

[Akakabuto 1,751]

17 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

I'm probably an outlier on this, but I think just having bigger, more athletic, guys tends to increase the physical wear and tear on the other team. Sodorblom isn't the "toughest" guy on earth but I guarantee getting run into the boards by him hurts worse than if Marchand did it. Or Brendan Galligher. Or Lemieux. Or many other guys who are noted for their "toughness"

I agree. What you want is a ”hard” team that wear the other teams down. I don’t think having a fighter on your team gives you any advantage anymore compared to having a more skilled player on the bottom line. They don’t scare the the opponents off your star players the way the used to because nobody are going after them the same way anymore. It’s just how the league is nowadays. 

[kipwinger 8,524]

14 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

I agree. What you want is a ”hard” team that wear the other teams down. I don’t think having a fighter on your team gives you any advantage anymore compared to having a more skilled player on the bottom line. They don’t scare the the opponents off your star players the way the used to because nobody are going after them the same way anymore. It’s just how the league is nowadays. 

Agreed, there is no deterrent effect from having a fighter. Even back in the old days guys like Brian Marchment, Ulf Samuelsson, Claude Lemieux, etc. had no problem hitting guys dirty and then dealing with the consequences later. If fighting was a deterrent then having McCarty, Shanny, and Kocur on the roster should have ensured that Kris Draper wouldn't get his face rearranged. Alas, it did not.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

9 hours ago, Akakabuto said:

Seriously, though. How soft do you think the Wings are compared to the rest of the league? I don’t think there are any real tough teams out there anymore. 

Tough is the other team does NOT Steve Moore you because they know you are willing to Todd Bertuzzi them.  The Wings dont have that.  We are glovers.

[Axl Foley 224]

What Bertuzzi did too Moore is not toughness. Hitting a player from behind is cowardice. Toughness means we get to dictate how the game is played. We will beat you on our terms.

 

[bIueadams 776]

4 hours ago, Axl Foley said:

What Bertuzzi did too Moore is not toughness. Hitting a player from behind is cowardice. Toughness means we get to dictate how the game is played. We will beat you on our terms.

 

I disagree, Todd Bertuzzi was an extremely tough player through his whole career.

[Axl Foley 224]

5 hours ago, bIueadams said:

I disagree, Todd Bertuzzi was an extremely tough player through his whole career.

Scott was referring to a specific incident as toughness. It was not. I never said Bertuzzi was never a tough player.

[Motor City Mullets 195]

On 9/27/2023 at 2:48 PM, kipwinger said:

Agreed, there is no deterrent effect from having a fighter. Even back in the old days guys like Brian Marchment, Ulf Samuelsson, Claude Lemieux, etc. had no problem hitting guys dirty and then dealing with the consequences later. If fighting was a deterrent then having McCarty, Shanny, and Kocur on the roster should have ensured that Kris Draper wouldn't get his face rearranged. Alas, it did not.

Technically speaking neither Shanahan, nor Kocur were Detroit Red Wings at the time when Lemieux plastered Drapers face along the boards.

[bIueadams 776]

6 hours ago, Axl Foley said:

Scott was referring to a specific incident as toughness. It was not. I never said Bertuzzi was never a tough player.

So you admit Todd was tough?