New New Prospects Thread

[redw1ngs 146]

55 minutes ago, bIueadams said:

Id bet its more of a personality issue.

I was a Walstud fan at the draft. I doubt his issues are technique or technical. He is SOUND in those departments. The defination of textbook technique goalie. 

On the other hand i was really impressed by Cossas personality after being drafted. He is smart, charismatic, and confident. Shades of Seider.

SY made it apparent he was gunning for key players with strong character to be the bed rock of this new era. Id bet Cossas personality set him apart - whereas walnuts likely had the same boring stoic personality of every other blue collar swede. 

Cossas a goof Canadian. Id rather the stoic Swede. Also good friend of Edvinsson. SY isnt infallible unfortunately made a big mistake on this one.

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

2 hours ago, bIueadams said:

Id bet its more of a personality issue.

I was a Walstud fan at the draft. I doubt his issues are technique or technical. He is SOUND in those departments. The defination of textbook technique goalie. 

On the other hand i was really impressed by Cossas personality after being drafted. He is smart, charismatic, and confident. Shades of Seider.

SY made it apparent he was gunning for key players with strong character to be the bed rock of this new era. Id bet Cossas personality set him apart - whereas walnuts likely had the same boring stoic personality of every other blue collar swede. 

I think ur right. I do remember SY saying something about the interview when he drafted him.

SY puts a lot of stock in the player interviews. He did it with Seider and Kasper too IIRC.

[kipwinger 7,649]

 

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

1 hour ago, kipwinger said:

 

I laugh at everything Scott Wheeler posts. Even if it is just reporting.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,618]

No Swedish goalie as ever won a Stanley Cup.

[redw1ngs 146]

5 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

No Swedish goalie as ever won a Stanley Cup.

Neither has a Austrian player guess we shouldnta drafted Kasper either.

[LeftWinger 4,743]

14 hours ago, redw1ngs said:

It could be just that Draper was banging the table harder for Cossa and maybe Hakan didnt have much of an opinion on the 2 goalies. Im sure there are Swedes that HA wants at every single pick but SY/KD obv arent taking all Swedes every draft.

possibly, but IMO, taking a player in the 1st round, whether 4th or 15th, all scouts involved are probably asked. I do not know who the Western Canada scout is, but if #15 overall is potentially a Swedish player, odds are Hakan knows more about him than anyone!

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

6 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

No Swedish goalie as ever won a Stanley Cup.

No Euro Captain ever won a Stanley Cup until...

[bIueadams 436]

10 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

No Euro Captain ever won a Stanley Cup until...

Zetterberg

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

4 minutes ago, bIueadams said:

Zetterberg

not sure if ur serious, but it was Lidstrom, dude

[bIueadams 436]

3 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

not sure if ur serious, but it was Lidstrom, dude

Zberg won the cup my dood

[Jonas Mahonas 1,618]

17 hours ago, redw1ngs said:

Neither has a Austrian player guess we shouldnta drafted Kasper either.

great point.  trade that bust.

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

1 hour ago, bIueadams said:

Zberg won the cup my dood

Why are u doing this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicklas_Lidström

Lidström was the first European-born-and-trained captain of a Stanley Cup-winning team,

[Jonas Mahonas 1,618]

1 minute ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Why are u doing this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicklas_Lidström

Lidström was the first European-born-and-trained captain of a Stanley Cup-winning team,

Guy Lafleur was born in France, but trained in Canada.  So doesnt count.

[AtlantaHotWings 641]

Get a start against Latvia and you win ...good or bad or well duh he should  have won...

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2022/08/10/wings-prospect-cossa-makes-22-saves-canadas-opening-win-worlds/10294030002/

 

 

[diehardredwingsfan58 72]

On 8/10/2022 at 8:49 AM, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

No Euro Captain ever won a Stanley Cup until...

Who is Henrik Zetterberg.

18 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

not sure if ur serious, but it was Lidstrom, dude

Wrong dude, Lidstrom was never the Captain when the Wings won their 4 Stanley Cups. 3 cups were under Yzerman as Captain and the 4th cup was with Zetterberg as Captain. Look it up.

[AtlantaHotWings 641]

3 hours ago, diehardredwingsfan58 said:

Who is Henrik Zetterberg.

Wrong dude, Lidstrom was never the Captain when the Wings won their 4 Stanley Cups. 3 cups were under Yzerman as Captain and the 4th cup was with Zetterberg as Captain. Look it up.

Sorry dude....even a pic of the Perfect Human holding the cup in 2008 to help you visualize it 

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2019/10/03/champion-captains-every-stanley-cup-winning-captain-since-1917/3858715002/

[LeftWinger 4,743]

I'm not sure if people are just trying to be funny or if their Wings history is clouded. Either way, it's been far too long since 2008! Bring Stanley home!

[Jonas Mahonas 1,618]

7 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

I'm not sure if people are just trying to be funny or if their Wings history is clouded. Either way, it's been far too long since 2008! Bring Stanley home!

Foderev would have been the first Russian captain.

[bIueadams 436]

On 8/10/2022 at 11:48 PM, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Why are u doing this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicklas_Lidström

Lidström was the first European-born-and-trained captain of a Stanley Cup-winning team,

Are you denying that Zetterberg won the cup? Bc - check ur facts: He did. And also captained this team.

On 8/10/2022 at 11:50 PM, Jonas Mahonas said:

Guy Lafleur was born in France, but trained in Canada.  So doesnt count.

Christ so technically Zberg wasnt even the first

32 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Foderev would have been the first Russian captain.

Federov was never captain dude. 

[diehardredwingsfan58 72]

On 8/11/2022 at 5:12 PM, AtlantaHotWings said:

Sorry dude....even a pic of the Perfect Human holding the cup in 2008 to help you visualize it 

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2019/10/03/champion-captains-every-stanley-cup-winning-captain-since-1917/3858715002/

My bad, I guess Zeterberg became Captain after Lidstrom retired.

[kipwinger 7,649]

Yzerman knows something (else) that Holland didn't. Canadian Junior hockey leagues aren't producing the best NHL caliber prospects anymore. There's been a noticeable shift away from the CHL to the SHL and USHL under Yzerman.

https://detroithockeynow.com/2022/08/13/anatomy-of-the-yzerplan-holland-vs-yzerman-red-wings-drafts/

Edited August 13, 2022 by kipwinger

[redw1ngs 146]

2 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Yzerman knows something (else) that Holland didn't. Canadian Junior hockey leagues aren't producing the best NHL caliber prospects anymore. There's been a noticeable shift away from the CHL to the SHL and USHL under Yzerman.

https://detroithockeynow.com/2022/08/13/anatomy-of-the-yzerplan-holland-vs-yzerman-red-wings-drafts/

Just another reason SY shoulda taken Wallstedt over Cossa. 

[kipwinger 7,649]

54 minutes ago, redw1ngs said:

Just another reason SY shoulda taken Wallstedt over Cossa. 

It definitely makes me wonder why he did, given his apparently preference for SHL talent.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,618]

3 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Yzerman knows something (else) that Holland didn't. Canadian Junior hockey leagues aren't producing the best NHL caliber prospects anymore. There's been a noticeable shift away from the CHL to the SHL and USHL under Yzerman.

https://detroithockeynow.com/2022/08/13/anatomy-of-the-yzerplan-holland-vs-yzerman-red-wings-drafts/

We will have to wait to see.  The lineups of Colorado, Tampa Bay, and Pittsburg, Washington, Chicago. and LA (last 10 years of cup champions) have had exactly TWO Swedes (Backstrom and Hedman).  I think it's a bit early to start proclaiming Sweden the talent factory.