New New Prospects Thread

[Troy McClure 347]

1 hour ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said:

Theres also that Cole Eiserman kid that I think they might take in the 2nd round.

There's also that conor bedard kid that I think is good. R u brain damaged?

[stephen-gregory-yzerman 133]

4 hours ago, Troy McClure said:

There's also that conor bedard kid that I think is good. R u brain damaged?

Bedard was drafted this year dummy.

[Akakabuto 1,842]

3 hours ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said:

Bedard was drafted this year dummy.

You think a top three ranked prospect could be had in the second round?

[stephen-gregory-yzerman 133]

4 hours ago, Akakabuto said:

You think a top three ranked prospect could be had in the second round?

As likely as a top 2 ranked d prospect being available in the 3rd round.

Levshunov has been a consensus top d prospect for a while now and guy thinks he discovered some unknown that could be had in the 3rd round.

[LeftWinger 5,132]

15 hours ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said:

Theres also that Cole Eiserman kid that I think they might take in the 2nd round.

Sarcasm? Eiserman is basically ranked 1B behind Celebrini. Also for the other guy Levshunov is ranked #5. If either of those two fall to us (hopefully we're drafting in the 20's) let alone to the 2nd or 3rd rounds, then avoid them by all means! If they fall, then they have Zadina failure written all over them!

[Troy McClure 347]

15 hours ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said:

As likely as a top 2 ranked d prospect being available in the 3rd round.

Levshunov has been a consensus top d prospect for a while now and guy thinks he discovered some unknown that could be had in the 3rd round.

My apologies. I don't watch draft rankings pretty much at all until maybe the end of the season. But I do follow MSU hockey, and I had no idea Levshunov was ranked so high. Kinda rare for Michigan State to pick up a player that highly touted. Last time an MSU player got drafted in the 1st round was Jim Slater 30th overall back in 2002...

[kipwinger 8,756]

I've had the chance to watch a lot of the Griffins games this year on AHL TV and figured I'd give my impressions of a few guys:

• Edvinsson and Berggren: I'm grouping these two together (and not saying much about them) because they're both too good for the AHL and everyone already knows that.
• William Wallinder: His offense really hasn't shown through in the AHL because he's basically stuck behind half the roster and doesn't get those juicy offensive opportunities. I think he stands to gain the most when Edvinsson is inevitably called up. He transitions the puck better than any defenseman in our system though.
• Cross Hanas: Like Wallinder I think he stands to gain a lot from a Berggren promotion. He's my darkhorse to be an impact guy in the NHL. I see a lot of Bertuzzi in him. He's skilled enough to compliment top players, is an adept shooter and passer, is very smart in the offensive zone, but his skating will stop him from being a star.
• Marco Kasper: I think all the "Kasper has limited offense" talk on draft day really got to his head because he spends too much time playing East-West hockey and trying to be cute now. Once he realizes that being a big, fast, gritty, two way guy is his bread and butter he's going to be fine. If I could I would hook him to one of those Pavlovian response machines they used in "A Clockwork Orange" and force him to watch JT Compher's shifts over and over again, giving him electric shock every time he thinks about trying anything cute.
• Amadeus Lombardi: The only thing stopping this guy from being a difference maker is time and opportunity. He's absolutely awesome and just needs time to physically grow (which he's still doing) and for some of the players above him on the roster to move on. He's got it all, skating, passing, shooting, etc. but he also does the little things too. Really good faceoff guy and backchecks like a demon. I've heard it said that the most important attribute to have in order to be an NHL center is a brain, and he definitely does. I'm still convinced he can be a star in the NHL.
• Sodorblom and Mazur: I'm not going to say much about these two because my impression is that they're both playing exactly as advertised. Mazur is the Red Wings version of Reilly Smith (I mean that in the best way) and Sodorblom has all the skill and just needs to keep working on his skating (like Rasmussen did).
• Albert Johansson: Incomplete. Played hurt for a while and is just now getting back. Plays in all situations AND on his off side though, which is useful. Reminds me of (Chicago) Nick Leddy.
• Sebastian Cossa: I'm not well versed enough with the mechanics of goaltending to really give full insight here but he sure seems like he's figuring it out. He still lets in the occasional bad goal and in 2 of his 8 starts he looked pedestrian, but most of the time he's really really solid and I don't think that's a bad place for him to be 8 games into his pro careers. He's definitely outplaying Michael Hutchinson (a career AHL/NHL tweener).

Edited December 5, 2023 by kipwinger

[town123 234]

I only catch bits and pieces of GR, so thanks a bunch for your viewpoint.

[kipwinger 8,756]

The only other thing I didn't mention but should add is that I think both Wallinder and Kasper are having a bit harder time adjusting to the North American game than Edvinsson or Johansson did. I think so much of their games is predicated on hanging on to the puck and skating and they haven't learned that in North America you have to give and go more.

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

Good analysis, kip.  I concur.  Edvinsson and Berggren already have the NHL game that makes them stick out in the AHL.  They always seem to be able to read the play faster.  Wallinder needs a year or two more.  His body isnt ready yet.  He's lenky and doesnt have the stride power that Edvinsson and Berggren have.  Once his legs catch up to his upper body, he will be fun to watch.  Cant wait to see Danielson/Lombardi as a 1/2 pair in GR.

[Akakabuto 1,842]

5 hours ago, kipwinger said:

I've had the chance to watch a lot of the Griffins games this year on AHL TV and figured I'd give my impressions of a few guys:

Good stuff, Kip!

[kipwinger 8,756]

Two goals for Danielson tonight, and points for Berggren and Edvinsson as well.

[AtlantaHotWings 1,126]

9 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Two goals for Danielson tonight, and points for Berggren and Edvinsson as well.

Speaking of Daniel-son I assume if his team doesn't make playoffs in WHL as soon as season ends he will be in GR?

[kipwinger 8,756]

6 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

Speaking of Daniel-son I assume if his team doesn't make playoffs in WHL as soon as season ends he will be in GR?

I presume he would as well, but Brandon is pretty solidly in a playoff spot so I don't think it matters much. Maybe if they lose early.

[AtlantaHotWings 1,126]

9 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

I presume he would as well, but Brandon is pretty solidly in a playoff spot so I don't think it matters much. Maybe if they lose early.

What's our strategy to making them drop out of the playoffs or lose early so Nate can play for the Griffins.....LOL 

[kipwinger 8,756]

13 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

What's our strategy to making them drop out of the playoffs or lose early so Nate can play for the Griffins.....LOL 

Danielson is coming on a bit now, but ultimately he hasn't really been dominating in the WHL. I'm not in a rush to move him up a level just yet. After training camp I thought maybe he should be on a fast track but it hasn't shaken out that way. I think he needs to just play at this level and learn to dominate before we start thinking about him in GR.

[TLGTrico 661]

3 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Danielson is coming on a bit now, but ultimately he hasn't really been dominating in the WHL. I'm not in a rush to move him up a level just yet. After training camp I thought maybe he should be on a fast track but it hasn't shaken out that way. I think he needs to just play at this level and learn to dominate before we start thinking about him in GR.

Danielson will be turning 20 before next season starts, he'll definitely be in Grand rapids

[kipwinger 8,756]

8 minutes ago, TLGTrico said:

Danielson will be turning 20 before next season starts, he'll definitely be in Grand rapids

I know. I was responding to his (joking) post about developing a strategy to get Brandon bounced from the WHL playoffs early this year so he can play with the Griffs.

[mackel 763]

On 12/4/2023 at 9:59 AM, LeftWinger said:

Sarcasm? Eiserman is basically ranked 1B behind Celebrini. Also for the other guy Levshunov is ranked #5. If either of those two fall to us (hopefully we're drafting in the 20's) let alone to the 2nd or 3rd rounds, then avoid them by all means! If they fall, then they have Zadina failure written all over them!

Can we banish that name from LGW.

[kipwinger 8,756]

16 minutes ago, mackel said:

Can we banish that name from LGW.

I dunno man, LeftWinger has been around forever. How would it look to lurkers thinking about joining the board now that the Wings are good again?

 

Edited December 6, 2023 by kipwinger

[mackel 763]

52 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

I dunno man, LeftWinger has been around forever. How would it look to lurkers thinking about joining the board now that the Wings are good again?

 

Lol you know what name I meant, troublemaker. 

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

8 hours ago, TLGTrico said:

Danielson will be turning 20 before next season starts, he'll definitely be in Grand rapids

yup.  in Detroit for playoffs THIS YEAR.

[kipwinger 8,756]

Another goal by ASP today. That's 9 so far on the season, typing the record for most goals ever by a U20 defenseman in the SHL. He's still got more than half a season to go. SY got an absolutely gem at 17OA.

[Troy McClure 347]

6 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Another goal by ASP today. That's 9 so far on the season, typing the record for most goals ever by a U20 defenseman in the SHL. He's still got more than half a season to go. SY got an absolutely gem at 17OA.

Edvinsson - Seider
________ - ASP
________ - _____

 

We can basically fill the rest of that D core up with anyone. Vets taking discounts to get cups. Whatever.

[kipwinger 8,756]

1 minute ago, Troy McClure said:

Edvinsson - Seider
________ - ASP
________ - _____

 

We can basically fill the rest of that D core up with anyone. Vets taking discounts to get cups. Whatever.

Yup, or just any of the other zillion awesome defense prospects we have.