Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 On 6/22/2024 at 9:49 PM, TLGTrico said: Off the top of my head I can only think of two times he's moved up. Cossa and Buium Traded to bump up for ASP too. And a bunch of a 2nds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 5 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said: Traded to bump up for ASP too. And a bunch of a 2nds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 663 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 6 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said: Traded to bump up for ASP too. And a bunch of a 2nds. He didn't trade up for asp, and what second round picks besides Buium did he trade up for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 https://thehockeynews.com/news/will-the-winnipeg-jets-trade-nikolaj-ehlers-and-their-top-prospect-before-the-draft Our 1st might be going bye bye. I like the idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,135 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 Not sure I understand the why...... UPDATE: The #RedWings today acquired a 2nd round pick in the 2024 NHL Draft (originally Tampa’s) and forward Jesse Kiiskinen from the Nashville Predators in exchange for Andrew Gibson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 17 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Not sure I understand the why...... UPDATE: The #RedWings today acquired a 2nd round pick in the 2024 NHL Draft (originally Tampa’s) and forward Jesse Kiiskinen from the Nashville Predators in exchange for Andrew Gibson. His motor never stops. Kiiskinen makes second and third efforts on the forecheck, catches unsuspecting defensemen on the tracks, and is a diligent defensive player. Kiiskinen scans ahead of puck retrievals and makes plays with pace. Florida just won with 10 forwards who play like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,135 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 11 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said: His motor never stops. Kiiskinen makes second and third efforts on the forecheck, catches unsuspecting defensemen on the tracks, and is a diligent defensive player. Kiiskinen scans ahead of puck retrievals and makes plays with pace. Florida just won with 10 forwards who play like this. Fair enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 34 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Not sure I understand the why...... UPDATE: The #RedWings today acquired a 2nd round pick in the 2024 NHL Draft (originally Tampa’s) and forward Jesse Kiiskinen from the Nashville Predators in exchange for Andrew Gibson. SY does not have any extra picks until the 7th round. This gives him an extra 2nd to use in a deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 767 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 54 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Not sure I understand the why...... UPDATE: The #RedWings today acquired a 2nd round pick in the 2024 NHL Draft (originally Tampa’s) and forward Jesse Kiiskinen from the Nashville Predators in exchange for Andrew Gibson. Stian Solberg incoming! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 236 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 wtf? 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 767 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, town123 said: wtf? Yea like NO return??? Plus a 2nd WTF is going on here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 236 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 (edited) dumping Jake's 3.5 and needing to add a 2nd as well? Edited June 25, 2024 by town123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 767 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, town123 said: dumping Jake's 3.5 and needing to add a 2nd as well? Walman isn't the guy you dump and shouldn't need an asset attached. He's worth that contract... this better be 3D chess and not opening a spot for Holl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 465 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 9 minutes ago, town123 said: wtf? WALGOD NOOOOOOOO There must be something really big going down that will involve San Jose for SY to gift them this. Perhaps acquiring a big player with some of these assets and then flipping to us and retaining to us for considerations? 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 236 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 SY maybe having the option to switch 15-14 with SJ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,135 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 5 minutes ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said: WALGOD NOOOOOOOO There must be something really big going down that will involve San Jose for SY to gift them this. Perhaps acquiring a big player with some of these assets and then flipping to us and retaining to us for considerations? so we have 7 D now Mo,Chiapet,Petry,Holl,Maata,Ed,AJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,152 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 (edited) Ok, so, so far we've gotten worse this off season. I do wonder what Walman did to get ousted. It's no coincidence this comes after his healthy scratches to end the season. That being said, now we need a top pairing LHD. Edvinsson isn't ready for that. Edited June 25, 2024 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 142 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 10 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: , now we need a top pairing LHD. Edvinsson isn't ready for that. I disagree. We need another top dman but Ed is ready for huge minutes paired with Seider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 465 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 11 minutes ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said: I disagree. We need another top dman but Ed is ready for huge minutes paired with Seider. Mehhh idk I certainly disagree, and I was happy to hear SY say at the predraft press conference that he was a little disappointed with Edvinsson and thought he could do more. Continued by saying Ed still needs to earn it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 142 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 15 minutes ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said: Mehhh idk I certainly disagree, and I was happy to hear SY say at the predraft press conference that he was a little disappointed with Edvinsson and thought he could do more. Continued by saying Ed still needs to earn it. Ed will be best dman on the team by end of next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 24 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Ok, so, so far we've gotten worse this off season. I do wonder what Walman did to get ousted. It's no coincidence this comes after his healthy scratches to end the season. That being said, now we need a top pairing LHD. Edvinsson isn't ready for that. yah, the SCAM has 2 things that you cannot question - his drafting prowess - known to trade/move up to get more good picks in each draft, and his zero strike policy on player shenanigans. Vrana tested the zero strike policy - BYE. Walbiff tested it - BYE. Wonder if a Gost signing is imminent. 1 minute ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said: Ed will be best dman on the team by end of next season. I'm with you on this. He's awesome. His skating is top tier for a big man with that kind of reach. Once he gets his NHL legs under him that allow him to always be in position, the reach will give him an extra element like Lidstrom had. He's the 2nd coming of Hedman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 46 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Ok, so, so far we've gotten worse this off season. I do wonder what Walman did to get ousted. It's no coincidence this comes after his healthy scratches to end the season. That being said, now we need a top pairing LHD. Edvinsson isn't ready for that. I disagree with this. I have our D ranked like this from worst to first last year: Petry Chiarot Gost (first 50 games) Walman Holl Gost (last 30 games) Maatta Edvinsson Seider I think this is a good move from the Scam. 3.5 mil off the books. Can't have this be a move completed to be able to sign Perron, though. That's a gigantic miss if the Scam does that. This has to be to free up room for some impact players (Seider, Raymond, Kane, Jarry, etc.). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 465 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 (edited) Yzerman traded a 2nd to get Leddy He traded Leddy to get a 2nd + Walman He used that 2nd to draft Andrew Gibson Then he traded Gibson for a 2nd And finally he used that 2nd to trade away Walman No matter how you look at it, we paid SJ a 2nd to enjoy Jake Walman Here's my theory: this is a 3way deal with the Rags SJS picked up Goodrow on waivers as a favor to the rags. Walman and the 2nd are the payment for that. Now the Rags will eat salary on Trouba and send him to Detroit for nothing in return. Edited June 25, 2024 by Jimmybigrigs69 1 Scott R Lucidi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,863 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 The SCAM is scamming 1 1 Jimmybigrigs69 and Scott R Lucidi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 142 Report post Posted June 25, 2024 Making room for a big fa signing. 1 Scott R Lucidi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
