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#2533049 Dekeyser/Tatar status update

Posted by kipwinger on 26 July 2014 - 01:42 PM

I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh if Tatar signs a more "team friendly" deal than Dekeyser.  Everybody is overly worried about Tatar, but the local guy isn't signed either.  What if he's the one with the "ego problem" or whatever else is being suggested  about Tatar?  People act like Tatar is some kind of bad seed because he's trying to get the best deal he can.  But clearly Dekeyser is doing the same thing and everyone is mum. 

 

Truth is, neither are currently signed because their value is really hard to determine.  They've both played better than your average rookie but don't have a track record.  As such, it's hard for both management, and their agents, to figure out what their proper value is.  So it takes time. 




#2532789 Dekeyser/Tatar status update

Posted by Son of a Wing on 22 July 2014 - 12:21 PM

Regarding Tatar...
 

 

Tomas, what's the current situation in terms of your future overseas?

 
"For some time, together with my agent, we've been negotiating a new contract with Detroit. But it's not easy; it's a business, and both sides want to have the best conditions."
 
Do you already have a specific proposal on the table?
 
"Yes, I have three options. The team's offered me two, three and five-year contracts. Of course the offers have other financial circumstances."
 
Which one of the alternatives do you prefer?
 
"It looks like I'll sign a two or three-year contract. We're close to an agreement, but a few things need to be resolved."
 
Do you have a red line deadline, or do you have some time to think?
 
"No, we're not in a rush. It doesn't matter whether I'll sign today or in two weeks."
 
Why?
 
"Detroit has my rights until I'm 27, so I can't negotiate with any other NHL team, so I have time" (Tatar says, and laughs).
 
But could it possibly happen that Detroit would sign you to a new contract and then let you go?
 
"It might. Especially because hockey and the NHL are a big business. But I don't think that will happen."
 
Now what are you doing?
 
"I'm recovering from a short weekend trip to Croatia, but I'm training fully and preparing for the new season."
 

 




#2532771 Dekeyser/Tatar status update

Posted by Echolalia on 22 July 2014 - 09:44 AM

I wonder what "not close" means here, because the article makes it seem like "not close" is more that they haven't really started working though this process of negotiating. Tatar is overseas, Dekeyser they haven't spoken with since the draft. Holland gave each of them offers and hasn't heard anything back. It sounds like these guys are just enjoying their summer and aren't even focusing on contract talks right now.
But given that my perspective is one of very limited access, who knows what's actually going on.


#2531028 What is the plan with Mrazek?

Posted by number9 on 10 July 2014 - 02:04 PM

Mrazek is better off with a heavy workload in GR. And if monster or Howie go down with injury he's the only one I trust to step in. The teams done a good job managing tender depth since Conklin IMO


#2531260 Who has been Ken Holland's worst recent free agent signing?

Posted by Shaman on 10 July 2014 - 05:44 PM

Can I just vote "Yes"?




#2530716 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Echolalia on 08 July 2014 - 10:33 PM

I'm still trying to get my head around Tatar being nothing more then Hudler?! As soon as he got up to the big club he put on clinics on hard work & determination. You can see when Tatar is on the ice he wants to make something happen and usually did...He won the MVP when they won the Calder, the kid loves to win and it shows. Moving him, Nyquist, or Jurco are my bugga boos

I'm with you. Tatar was very impressive, especially considering it was his rookie season. He may be only 5'10", but he plays like he's 6'2"


#2530652 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by kipwinger on 08 July 2014 - 04:13 PM

Hell, sweeten the pot and give them Glendening or Andersson for the trouble and you might bring the price down a little more. 

 

Fact is, they'd be helping us out by trading us Green.  But we'll be helping them too.  He's expensive, his cost/benefit ratio is probably not better than their other top four defensemen, and they need forwards that they don't have money for.  If they can get a decent prospect or two and a pick OR a low end (cheap) roster player and a decent prospect, they'll be making out.  If they expect to get an up and coming roster player (Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco) or a top end prospect (Mantha, Sproul, Ouellet) they'ref****** nuts. 


 

Those would be fair. I could also see Pulkkinen + Jensen + 2nd/3rd.

 

I just wouldn't be that surprised to see Tatar traded either.

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded either.  But if he was traded for Mike Green on an expiring contract then Ken Holland should be drawn, quartered, burned, buried, exhumed, drawn, quartered, and burned again for being af****** toolbox. 




#2530450 Marchenko

Posted by arag on 07 July 2014 - 03:21 PM

Good start for the kid. Looking forward having him on the team.


#2530439 Marchenko

Posted by ben_usmc on 07 July 2014 - 02:42 PM

Give this man a spot!




#2530254 Please Help Me Win GDT of the year.

Posted by FlashyG on 06 July 2014 - 02:07 PM

Sorry I don't have an account, otherwise I'd spam vote as much as I could to help you. You are extremely talented and creative with your GDT's and deserve the win.

 

Unfortunately spam voting doesn't work, unlike TSN's play of the year voting you can only vote once in this competition.

 

We've already proven in the TSN play of the year competitions that as a fan base if you allow us to vote multiple times we are unstoppable.




#2530250 Please Help Me Win GDT of the year.

Posted by FlashyG on 06 July 2014 - 01:41 PM

Right now I'm currently locked in a very tight back and forth Battle with the Philadelphia Flyers in the semi-finals of the competition.

 

I need help getting votes to move on to meet the Sharks in the finals.

 

Not only is their GDT a wall of text they have been quite disrespectful towards my work. 

 

You need to have an HFboards account already to vote, but if you have one please follow the link cast your vote

 

http://hfboards.hock...d.php?t=1704317

 

Thanks for any help you can give me.




#2529398 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by number9 on 02 July 2014 - 10:51 AM

I for one wanna watch my team actually play hockey, so yeah, no tank


#2529389 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Son of a Wing on 02 July 2014 - 10:35 AM

 

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm fine with giving our spots to kids. In fact, I would be content with scrapping all the vets (minus Hank,Dats and Kronners) and playing all kids/prospects. 

 

However to me, this is one in the same as tanking it ala the Buffalo Sabres route. 

 

Glad we're on the same page!

 

If you think that squad would "Tank" then I think you need a lesson in talent analysis...




#2529896 Hockey News: Red Wings D hunting

Posted by Shaman on 03 July 2014 - 10:05 PM

Tyler Myers can go right out the window. They want a ridiculous amount for him (heard 4 starters and a high round pick) and honestly he's not that good. He's just tall.

 

Byfuglien is an interesting option. He fills a lot of holes on our backend (size, toughness, and a righty). Seems like a better trade partner than BUF who is in our division. 

 

Don't know much about Petry. 

 

 

I don't want to imagine Big Buff filling any holes on my backend.  Immature and sleep deprived is not a good combination.  

 

 

What? All I'm saying is that we have a lot of pressure back there sometimes and he can be the one to relieve it. Sure, there might be some boil-over from the other D-man he's playing with, but they just need to bear down, keep it loose, and be prepared to go long and deep.... into the post-season. 

 

 

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#2529887 Hockey News: Red Wings D hunting

Posted by Playmaker on 03 July 2014 - 08:34 PM

Tyler Myers can go right out the window. They want a ridiculous amount for him (heard 4 starters and a high round pick) and honestly he's not that good. He's just tall.

 

Byfuglien is an interesting option. He fills a lot of holes on our backend (size, toughness, and a righty). Seems like a better trade partner than BUF who is in our division. 

 

Don't know much about Petry. 

I don't want to imagine Big Buff filling any holes on my backend.  Immature and sleep deprived is not a good combination.