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#2195726 Red Wings trying to move Jiri Hudler

Posted by eva unit zero on 03 July 2011 - 11:22 AM

did not live up to his paycheck


I understand the hate, but this is something people don't seem to understand. Hudler may have had a subpar first half, but he was paid like a bottom-half second liner and that's where his overall season performance placed him. Holmstrom and Bertuzzi are cheap because of injury and age, and questions about what they might provide in the future. Cleary makes basically the same as Hudler. Filppula makes more and signed his contract before he was a second liner, while Hudler had just scored 57 points when he signed his.


#2195623 Defensive pairings

Posted by LeftWinger on 02 July 2011 - 10:26 PM

Kindl and Smith are going to be the odd-men out on this one, unless there's a trade in the works.

Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Stuart
Ericsson-Commodore

EXACTLY the line pairings I want to see! Bravo! +1 for you!



For those of you who think it, it won't happen, Commodore WILL NOT be the 7th defenseman... He may sit once in awhile to allow Kindl some playing time, but Kindl (if he reamins a Red Wing) will be the 7th defenseman.


#2195454 Defensive pairings

Posted by FunkedUp on 02 July 2011 - 05:10 PM

Kindl and Smith are going to be the odd-men out on this one, unless there's a trade in the works.

Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Stuart
Ericsson-Commodore


#2195434 Defensive pairings

Posted by Agalloch93 on 02 July 2011 - 04:49 PM

Playing Ericsson with anyone BUT Lidstrom is retarded.


#2195012 Wings re-sign Eaves to 3-year, $3.6m contract

Posted by echos myron on 02 July 2011 - 07:38 AM

I want to be with the Red Wings really bad, and everything worked out great between Kenny (Holland) and my agent, and for me, so Ive very excited to be back, said Eaves, who signed a three-year contract worth $3.6 million.

Its just the people, the people in the organization that Im with every day, said Eaves, in an exclusive interview with DetroitRedWings.com. Everyone is awesome, and I really enjoy all of the friendships that I have there. It was the people that really made me want to come back to Detroit.


#2195088 Richards to NYR

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 02 July 2011 - 10:10 AM

We could have paid him at that price, instead of paying Ericsson.


#2195085 Richards to NYR

Posted by KDDRWINGS1 on 02 July 2011 - 10:07 AM

I wonder if people still thnk he's coming here.


#2193107 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by Red Wings Addict on 01 July 2011 - 12:09 AM

Let's try to think just a little more positive, eh?




#2193086 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by ShanahanMan on 30 June 2011 - 11:37 PM

I fail to see how anyone can call this deal "bad" at this particular moment. It's not hurting anything. Red Wings have plenty of cap space to afford it, and lots of $$ cash left to improve the team. (No Kenny isn't getting Richards, never was)

How do we know what went on behind the scenes? It
sounds like Holland wanted Ericsson for about $1.8 to $2.0 million. Ericsson is in the press speaking how he wants the chance to advance to the next level. Ericsson know's he'd easily get $3.75+ or more tomorrow. So really he took a discount.

Knowing this, Holland probably said:

"Okay, $3.25 then, but if you don't progress, I am packaging you up and trading you! - Ericsson, do you understand that I will trade you if you do not meet my expectations, right?"

Ericsson - "Yes Mr. Holland, I understand!"

[worse case scenario, seven months later Ericsson has not
improved, Holland trades him with a pick/prospect for a nice return]

In this market, Holland can get a nice return on Big Rig with this current contract. This is called "asset
management". It might not look good right now, but I am sure Kenny has a plan.


Oh yea, cause if Ericsson s***s the bed, GMs all over the league will be fighting to trade for him at a 3.25 mil cap hit.


#2193076 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by Heaten on 30 June 2011 - 11:26 PM

I fail to see how anyone can call this deal "bad" at this particular moment. It's not hurting anything. Red Wings have plenty of cap space to afford it, and lots of $$ cash left to improve the team. (No Kenny isn't getting Richards, never was)

How do we know what went on behind the scenes? It sounds like Holland wanted Ericsson for about $1.8 to $2.0 million. Ericsson is in the press speaking how he wants the chance to advance to the next level. Ericsson know's he'd easily get $3.75+ or more tomorrow. So really he took a discount.

Knowing this, Holland probably said:
"Okay, $3.25 then, but if you don't progress, I am packaging you up and trading you! - Ericsson, do you understand that I will trade you if you do not meet my expectations, right?"

Ericsson - "Yes Mr. Holland, I understand!"

[worse case scenario, seven months later Ericsson has not improved, Holland trades him with a pick/prospect for a nice return]

In this market, Holland can get a nice return on Big Rig with this current contract. This is called "asset management". It might not look good right now, but I am sure Kenny has a plan.


#2193068 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by gcom007 on 30 June 2011 - 11:05 PM

That's why players have agents. I'm sure Ericsson's agent told him to wait until the end of the year to sign, and he'd make more money.

Trust me, give it 2 weeks, and this will look like a good deal.


No way.

And I'm not even one of the Holland-bashing, superstar-free-agent-signing (in my armchair) types. This has got bad deal written all over it for this organization. Again, I've historically been a Holland supporter and have rarely if ever outright bashed him, but this is as bad of a deal as he's ever made.

Literally for the very first time I am starting to wonder if Holland is slipping as a GM for this club. He's obviously a smart guy who has had a ton of success, but perhaps he's getting to a point where the history is clouding up his decision making somewhat.

This is just a flat-out bad deal unless Ericsson turns up his game a whole lot. He hasn't been able to do so since his initial break with the team, but I've never put much stock in the GR kids performances when they're just up here filling in. The pressure they face as fill-ins is profoundly different than the pressure they face being up here every day and being a part of the machine that's expected to perform a certain way. Ericsson has struggled a great deal with consistency and his mental game is a total mess. I'm not saying he's a horrible player and doesn't deserve a chance, but for $3.25 million?!?

How utterly flabbergasted must Jimmy Howard be right now?

The guy created his own fair share of problems leading to his struggles this past regular season, but he also had a lot of help from the likes of Ericsson. Meanwhile, Howard signs a 2-year deal for $2.25 million after a Calder-quality rookie year, some playoff struggles and some regular season struggles. He follows it up with an outstanding playoff performance.

Then Big E who's struggled basically his entire NHL career since arriving as a regular on the team signs a 3 year deal making a million more bucks a year!?!?

Howard's a team guy; he's not about to make it an issue, but you better believe that this pisses him right off.


#2193059 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by NYC Wings Fanatic on 30 June 2011 - 10:53 PM

Hey Red Wing Brethren,

I am a lifelong diehard Wings fan (since Gordie's days) stranded here on the island of Manhattan, surrounded by Ranger, Isles, and Devils yahoos, and this is my very first post on this incredible forum that I have been reading for a few years now. I do want to thank you all for the Red Wings lifeline that kept my hockey spirits alive for many years now.

I also agree that the stated terms are absolutely awful for Ericsson's 3 year deal, as like many of you, I am not at all enamored with his game. On the other hand, I would love it if this was a prelude to a possible sign & trade for someone far more suited long term to the excellent Wings standard of play - someone we can build with, along with Kronner and Stuie when (God forbid) Lids hangs them up. We used to hear a lot of midseason rumblings about Holland's interest in Zach Bogosian, so I am thinking that there must be other young, more highly skilled and gritty d-men on Kenny's radar in the 1 to 4 status range that might be available for reasons that we as fans are not privy to (friction with coach, needs change of scenery for motivation, etc.). Could this be Kenny laying the foundation for a trade, possibly shipping out Big Rig and Huds (or Flip) and getting someone like ZB? Any thoughts?


#2193061 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by GoWings1905 on 30 June 2011 - 10:56 PM

This makes Jimmy Howard's contract at $2 mill/yr look like the bargain of the year!


Poor Jimmy is going to earn every penny of it too next season with that defense in front of him again.


#2192909 Holland Appreciation Thread

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 30 June 2011 - 09:30 PM

I appreciate what Holland has done in the past (even though a lot of that credit should go to Ilitch's money, Bowman, no salary cap, Yzerman and Lidstrom).

However, I haven't been too keen on his unwillingness to make deadline moves the last two seasons, coupled with the Modano and Hudler acqusitions, and now this Ericsson overpayment.

In sports, it's what have you done for me lately. That's the way thinking should go, otherwise teams won't ever progress anywhere by living in the past.


#2192164 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by redwingfan19 on 29 June 2011 - 08:44 PM

for those worrying jagr will be a wing, have no fears



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