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#2199845 Jimmy Howard Debate Thread

Posted by Guest on 20 July 2011 - 12:22 PM

Shootouts are another story. In most of those Howard allowed two goals which is unacceptable.


What a load of nonsense. Howard was one of the best goalies in the league in shootouts last season.

PS BTW Couture scored exactly the same garbage in 2010 play-offs to win Game 3 for SJS.


He won game three with it, eh? Interesting. I recall that game going to OT.

I'm not trying to get credibility on the message board. I'm a fan and this is my opinion.


Claiming statistics that are flat-out false and then covering up by saying "this is my opinion" does not calculate. I think "I refuse to admit that I was wrong about these statistics" is what you're looking for.

Having watched around 70 games last season I do not remember I felt safe when we had two- or one-goal leads just because of any shoot potentially being a goal. Talking about shootouts... I guess what best describes Howard is that shootout we had with Chicago when Pavel and Todd scored outstanding highlight-reel goals while Howard allowed three in a row.


That wasn't last season, smart guy. That was in early 2010. And Howard didn't give up three in a row in that shootout.

Fuuuuuuuck! Well, perhaps, statistics say otherwise... Yes, I mentioned it, that's my mistake. Can you name me a person who would feel safe going with Howard to Game 7 of SCF? He is going to let pucks in. Period. Red Wings somehow need to deal with it scoring, scoring and scoring. I remember (I bet you too) those times when our goalie didn't let pucks in in a game just because he played good not because a team in from of him played excellent. These were 97 and 2001-2002 season. Since then we have Howard-like goalies.


Oh, so now this is to be a commentary on Holland's choices of goalie in the last 14 seasons. Never mind that the Red Wings had the same goalies in many of the seasons since those you're quoting.

But anyway, Holland, please go out and sign the perfect goalie! You know, the one who never lets pucks in!

Howard was streaky in the regular season and outstanding in the playoffs. Just ask the Sharks and the Coyotes.

I'm commenting on Howard being a goalie who cannot take a team to SCF irrespective of who plays on the ice. Just like Bobrovski in Phily or Varlamov/Neuvrith in Washington. That is it. All things you've noticed are related to either lack of confidence or lack of good skills. I really hope this is lack of confidence. However, he already played two full seasons and was developed properly through the minors. Evidently, it is lack of skill. Luckily, for our team to be champion a mediocre goalie is needed. Howard is worse than that.


Applause on your use of arbitrary statements as if they're fact. First you mention that this is a message board and that it's your opinion, and then you dictate "fact" to the rest of us when it is, just as before, only your opinion.

Do you remember how Red Wings played in front of him in both of those games? This year, especially, even after loosing Bert and Danny. That would be sufficient to win both games. However, at his price (2.25M) he is more or less good. More or less. Well, for teams like Columbus, Calgary or Carolina that do not have any chance to win it all it is ok.


Yes, I recall Howard winning game seven against the Coyotes while only giving up one goal; in this year's game seven versus the Sharks, I recall the Red Wings having very little offense in periods two and three. And I recall Howard having let in two goals he had very little chance of stopping, and having been failed by the defense on both occasions.

Since you're obviously less interested in discussion than you are in simply declaring that Howard sucks, why don't you just put it in your sig and call it a day?


#2199639 Game 7 Sharks vs Wings

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 19 July 2011 - 09:45 PM

If I remember correctly, it went something like this:

Datsyuk - Datsyuk - Datsyuk
Datsyuk - Datsyuk - Datsyuk
Datsyuk - Datsyuk - Datsyuk
Datsyuk - Datsyuk - Datsyuk


#2199727 Jimmy Howard Debate Thread

Posted by NeverForgetMac25 on 20 July 2011 - 08:21 AM

Shootouts are another story. In most of those Howard allowed two goals which is unacceptable.

PS BTW Couture scored exactly the same garbage in 2010 play-offs to win Game 3 for SJS.

Oh really? Last season while at home he gave up 1 goal on 6 shootout attempts. While on the road, he gave up only 1 goal on 11 attempts.

Stop posting bulls*** information as fact when its clearly incorrect. It's not only annoying it makes you lose credibility.


#2199709 Jimmy Howard Debate Thread

Posted by RusDRW on 20 July 2011 - 07:04 AM

---- EDIT By NFM25: This thread was created because I want to continue this discussion and it belongs in its own thread, not the one regarding the Ty Conklin Signing. ----

Did you watch the playoffs this past season? That Jimmy Howard fellow played pretty good in them.

And :thumbup: to re-signing Conklin if it is true.


plays like below is what I'm talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrHF_cGSbGU

Shootouts are another story. In most of those Howard allowed two goals which is unacceptable.

PS BTW Couture scored exactly the same garbage in 2010 play-offs to win Game 3 for SJS.


#2199695 Red Wings sign Ty Conklin to 1 year contract

Posted by RusDRW on 20 July 2011 - 04:46 AM

Not at all.


I always feel nervous when someone fires a shot at Jimmy. I can only imagine what players feel. If I were a Red Wings player I wouldn't believe Jimmy at all.


#2199691 Red Wings sign Ty Conklin to 1 year contract

Posted by RusDRW on 20 July 2011 - 03:21 AM

Excellent! Once in a while we get a goalie who can actually stop pucks any goalie should stop. With Jimmy Howard any soft wrister from the blue line could be a goal. Last time I had such good feeling was in 2008 when... Ty Concklin played for us.


#2199272 Nice Article on Datsyuk's Hometown Hockey camp.

Posted by Kira on 19 July 2011 - 08:29 AM

I've no idea, but from what I heard he really took to them well, and they to him. I guess we'll never know.

Some stupid wag online said, "Why is the media so obsessed on Datsyuk?" Why? Number one, I don't think they are "obsessed". Two, he's a breath of fresh air...no ego, no pretense. No mouth like some, and a s***load of talent to back it up. What's not to love?


#2199308 Backup Goalie?

Posted by Kira on 19 July 2011 - 09:59 AM

My dog could probably guard the net better than Turco. Ray Emery is just too much of a gamble. Better the devil we know than the one we don't...that's why I like the idea of Ty Conklin coming back. At least he's a proven commodity.


#2198602 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by eva unit zero on 14 July 2011 - 08:56 PM

26 pages and I see there is still talk of trading Filppula for Semin? If we need to improve defense, trading one of our best defensive forwards isn't the answer.


If the Wings can get away with trading one of Flip or Hudler for Semin, and not give up any top prospects or first round picks, then that's something to be considered. The Wings have several forwards who are as good or better defensively than Flip, and he is not among the team's best PKers. Flip for Semin as the only roster players doesn't harm Detroit's PK, but improves the PP. Maybe the lines could work out like this:

Semin/Datsyuk/Bertuzzi
Hudler/Zetterberg/Franzen
Cleary/Helm/Eaves
Mursak/Abdelkader/Holmstrom

If it's Hudler instead of Filppula, maybe it works out like this:

Semin/Datsyuk/Cleary
Franzen/Zetterberg/Holmstrom
Abdelkader/Filppula/Bertuzzi
Mursak/Helm/Eaves



#2198618 nashville's new home jersey

Posted by PredsFanTheBayouState on 14 July 2011 - 10:13 PM

Really because I think it would be embarrassing to use a lame nickname for your city that tells what you do well as a basis for a sports logo or sweater...
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Honestly it is a huge step forward, but that logo is still awful. Reminds me of the Nucks last update. :sly:

BTW, sarcasm folks about our logo.

No hate here, it is the best logo ever.



that is not the best logo ever.would hate that on the front on my jersey.


#2198614 nashville's new home jersey

Posted by Majsheppard on 14 July 2011 - 09:59 PM

Isn't there a thread already about this? Or is this another excuse for Nashville trolling?


#2198328 Stamkos Re-Signs With Lightning

Posted by lookalive07 on 13 July 2011 - 01:41 PM

Not related to this topic at all, but I find it funny that this comment gets so many +1 votes now that its summer.

If this same comment had been made during the finals, when almost everyone here was on the "Yay! Go Boston!" bandwagon, it would have gotten like -30. :)


I think the general consensus was less "go boston" and more "f*** vancouver, I hope they burn in hell". We just picked boston because most of us dislike the canucks more than we dislike the bruins.


#2198559 nashville's new home jersey

Posted by PredsFanTheBayouState on 14 July 2011 - 04:35 PM

last night at the skate of the union at bridgestone arena the preds unveiled their new home jersey:
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#2197759 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 July 2011 - 08:02 PM

But just so I can get this straight, you think Hudler is a *****, right? And you want to replace him with Semin? Can I get you to confirm for me that you'd rather have Semin than a *****?


I don't disagree that they are but huge pussys, but at least Semin's ***** squirts and I can enjoy it more! :blink:

Hudler is just a useless dried up ***** that not only doesn't hit or battle for the puck, but cannot score for crap. So they are both pussys, but Semin at least scores...and unlike Hudler, if you put Semin on Datsyuk's line, he will flourish...


#2197913 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 11 July 2011 - 04:00 PM

I don't disagree that they are but huge pussys, but at least Semin's ***** squirts and I can enjoy it more! :blink:

Hudler is just a useless dried up ***** that not only doesn't hit or battle for the puck, but cannot score for crap. So they are both pussys, but Semin at least scores...and unlike Hudler, if you put Semin on Datsyuk's line, he will flourish...


Creepy ass response, but I completely agree with the player comparison.

I'd bring on Semin for a 1 year (tryout).