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#2139833 Datsyuk and Howard both have setbacks

Posted by Guest on 01 April 2011 - 08:42 AM

New report out this morning saying Datsyuk and JHoward both aren't quite ready yet.

Their injuries may even take them into the first round now.

http://www.mlive.com..._big_setba.html (Link Updated)

So frustrating... Just one setback after another this year. I hope Babcock's hard skate yesterday didn't screw things up.

April Fools!

#2139759 Blues fan here, can I offer some perspective?

Posted by ShakeyWalton on 31 March 2011 - 10:47 PM

Hey guys. I just got done reading the GDT from last night's game, and wanted to make a few comments.

First off, that was obviously a great game for us Blues fans to watch. To score 10 goals against any NHL team is quite a feat, but to do it to Detroit, in Detroit nonetheless, was remarkable. I must say though, that I am rather surprised at some of the comments in the GDT thread. I never thought I would see Red Wings fans question the leadership qualities of Lidstrom, or question the toughness of Franzen. There seemed to be a ton of negativity for just 1 game. For a minute there, I thought I was reading a Blues GDT.

I can understand the irrational posts after such a blowout, but you guys get a high seed in the playoffs, while we go home again. We'll trade you if you want? We have a concussed great young player that has shown no inclination that he'll be cleared to play, a very erratic goaltending tandem, players missing practices, a drunken golf cart injury that was the beginning of the end for a #1 overall, no playoffs 5 out of 6 years, and last but certainly not least, a dirt cheap payroll from an ownership that desperately wants out.

This thread was only created so that you Red Wings fans can appreciate what you have. Talk to you later and good luck in the playoffs.

#2138869 3/30 GDT: St. Louis Rams 10 at Detroit Lions 3

Posted by ACallToArms on 30 March 2011 - 08:13 PM

The Red Wings are lazy and they suck.

#2136543 CBC's Inside Hockey with Pavel Datsyuk

Posted by Jusek on 26 March 2011 - 09:10 PM

Another hilarious Pasha interview, from tonight's HNIC. Best parts at 3:50 and 4:20-4:30.


#2136007 3/26 GDT: Maple Leafs 2 at Red Wings 4

Posted by GSBrooks13 on 25 March 2011 - 10:29 PM

I can handle losing to Vancouver.. and even to Pittsburgh.. But there is nothing I hate worse then the onslaught of ridiculous Leafs fans who will immediately swarm my facebook wall to proclaim that Toronto is better than Detroit..

Let's Go Wings!

#2135998 3/26 GDT: Maple Leafs 2 at Red Wings 4

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 25 March 2011 - 10:08 PM

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Start time: 7:00 EST

Joe Louis Arena - Detroit, MI
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Available On:
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Tonight's Stream
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Official Game Preview:
Original 6 rivals meet in Detroit

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*Opposition GDT*
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Posted Image News from around the NHL
Joe Sakic joins Avs front office
Bobrovsky looks to silence critics
Grabner: Calder winner?

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75 GP, 34-31-10, 78 pts
Last Game: Defeated COL 4-3

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74 GP, 43-22-9, 95 pts
Last Game: Lost to VAN 2-1

Last DET-TOR Meeting:
11/7/10, DET 1 at TOR 5 Recap


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TOR Phil Kessel: 29
DET Johan Franzen: 27

TOR Clarke MacArthur: 36
DET Henrik Zetterberg: 52

TOR Mikhail Grabovski: +14
DET Brian Rafalski, Pavel Datsyuk, Justin Abdelkader: +12
TOR Tyler Bozak: -27
DET Todd Bertuzzi: -7

TOR Colton Orr: 128
DET Jonathan Ericsson: 79

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Posted Image James Reimer
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17-4-4, 2.51 GAA, .924 SV%, 3 SO


Posted Image Jimmy Howard
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34-15-5, 2.77 GAA, .909 SV%, 2 SO

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Colby Armstrong (foot) out, Colton Orr (concussion) out,
Jonas Gustavsson (heart) out

Posted Image RED WINGS
Todd Bertuzzi (back) probable, Pavel Datsyuk (lower body) will not play,
Johan Franzen (groin) will not play, Chris Osgood (groin) out

On Deck
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3/28, Blackhawks at Red Wings ; 7:30 EST

#2135814 I love the GDTs we have...

Posted by HankthaTank on 25 March 2011 - 09:35 AM

That would be cool, if it wasn't for the Sharks.

#2135812 Detroit signs Nyquist

Posted by HankthaTank on 25 March 2011 - 09:33 AM

Here you go...

#2134771 Jimmy Howard watch thread

Posted by Nightfall on 22 March 2011 - 10:15 PM

the wings have been outscoring teams to win cause howard has been horribly inconsistent and not dependable. 2.79 GAA and .908 save % is nothing to get excited about. less than 2 GAA and 92% is something to get excited about. i hope McCollum finishes strong and pushes for the starter job next year. my faith in howard is expended. i'd feel better having joey mac finish the better part of the season and playoffs at this point.

Its apparent you haven't paid attention to the goaltenders in the farm team this year. McCollum has been crap. Pearce has been much better, but I don't think he is even close to Howard.

As for your faith in Howard, I can't fix that. You can point to numbers and scoff. I can point to the lazy defense and team play, as apparent to last night, and say they need to be motivated. In the end, who is right? Maybe a bit of both? Not that you will blame the lazy ass players in front of him. As I also said before, the Wings could have the best goalie in the league and people would still *****. There is no human being good enough to play for the Wings.

I have faith in him because I am a Wings fan. I back my team 100%, no exceptions. The management of the Wings has delivered 4 cups in the last 14 years. That alone should be enough to give you faith. If not, well, the Vancouver Canucks could use you as a bandwagon fan.

#2134765 Jimmy Howard watch thread

Posted by Guest on 22 March 2011 - 09:36 PM

One other stat on Howard, which is quite telling. NHL.com says he's given up 149 goals, which is 79th out of 84 goalies. That is scary. If Howard was on an average team, he'd probably have been blown up by now and moved to the AHL.

That stat is pretty much meaningless. If you actually look at the numbers there are goalies on that list that haven't even played in 30 games. If you only include goalies that have played in 41 or more games Howard ranks 22nd with goalies like Carey Price and Cam Ward behind him, both of them are in the top 10 in Sv% leaders and Price being in the top 10 of GAA leaders. It's not indicative of anything concerning the goaltender.

#2134763 Jimmy Howard watch thread

Posted by Guest on 22 March 2011 - 09:25 PM

I went to NHL.com and checked a couple stats for HOward.

His GAA is 2.79, which has improved slightly. But, he's still ranked 55th out of the 84 goalies that came up.

His save % was .908, which is 48th in the league. I'm sorry, but on a team like the Red Wings, a very sound team, very good team, these numbers are pathetic.

Those comparing Osgood to Howard, there's no comparison. Ozzie quarterbacked us to 2 cups, and I just don't think it's fair. Howard has done nothing yet. This playoff is make or break. I was behind Howard until 1/3 of the way through the season, and as of late I've really lost confidence in him. All 4 goals were absolutely pathetic. If howard lets in goals that are very difficult to stop or impossible, that's one thing. But every goal he let in yesterday was just pathetic. He is slow to get back to posts, he doesn't even attempt to control rebounds (a la 2 of the goals yesterday), he over-reacts to shots/passes...it's ridiculous.

I think he's rattled. I don't know if he sucks this much or if it's a mental game with him right now. I will forgive everything if he plays well in the playoffs, but I don't have much faith.

You cannot look at the sv% and GAA categories. Those include too many goalies that have limited GP underneath their belts. The correct categories to look at are the leaders categories. In Sv% leaders Howard is 29th out of 43. In GAA leaders he is 32nd out of 43. Not great but no where near as bad as you are making it seem.

The Wings' defense this year as been anything but sound and good. The offense has been great this season and their G/G indicates that. 3.19 G/G, good enough for second in the league. GA/G is strikingly different. 2.81 which is 18th in the league. SA/G is 30.3 which puts the Wings 14th in the league.

I'm not saying that Howard isn't at fault but the defense needs some of the blame here. The defense has been mediocre this season and the numbers show it.

Yes, Howard has a bad game last night and everyone is quick to jump on him for it but very few are willing to give him credit for playing an absolutely amazing game against the Preds. You just cannot stop the haters from digging his grave.

#2135474 Osgood on LTIR

Posted by Guest on 23 March 2011 - 11:09 PM

Chicago's position at the end of the season is major here. I'm not going to trust a goalie to play in the playoffs if the only action he sees is two skeleton crew games preserving players for the playoffs.

Edit: What am I saying. I'm not trusting Osgood to do anything more this season, he's done.

#2135463 3/23 GDT: Canucks 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Nightfall on 23 March 2011 - 10:51 PM

Not very much hockey left. :(

Maybe if you are rooting for the Edmonton Oilers. The Wings are in the playoffs you know. :D

you want some more depressing stats?

in the last 51 games:

regulation: 17 wins, 18 losses
OT: 5 wins, 4 losses
SO: 4 wins, 3 losses

how about them wings?

:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

The Vancouver Canucks could use a fan like you right now. Why don't you go cheer for them? :P

#2134654 Datsyuk, Franzen, Hudler & Bertuzzi likely will not play

Posted by HankthaTank on 22 March 2011 - 04:37 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if they spank the Griffins.

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But really, that will be a great game to be at. The Joe shall be filled with Maple Laugh fans I am sure. Maybe the 3rd period Wings from last night will show and send them back to TO crying in their Gilmour jerseys.

#2134649 Datsyuk, Franzen, Hudler & Bertuzzi likely will not play

Posted by Doc Holliday on 22 March 2011 - 04:33 PM

Apparently Mursak has been called up.

That is something.


GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. – The Red Wings on Wednesday recalled right wing Jan Mursak from the Grand Rapids Griffins.

Mursak, 23, makes his third trip to Detroit this season, after netting one goal and logging an average of 8:13 in ice time through 17 games over two previous stints (14 games from Dec. 27-Jan. 26, three from Feb. 2-5).

The second native of Slovenia to play in the NHL (Los Angeles’ Anze Kopitar), Mursak currently ranks among the Griffins’ leaders with 11 goals (T5th), 17 assists (7th) and 28 points (6th) through 39 games. He has tallied four assists in four outings with Grand Rapids since returning from his latest recall to Detroit.

Mursak will be available for action on Thursday when the Red Wings host the Dallas Stars at 7:30 p.m.