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#2222972 11/5 GDT: Ducks 0 at Red Wings 5

Posted by frwtv on 05 November 2011 - 12:44 PM

I will be streaming the game at http://freeredwings.tv. Fox Sports Detroit feed, Veetle (1000k) and Flash (800k) streams.


#2221859 Commodore to play tonight

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 03 November 2011 - 11:31 AM

Maybe Stuart should take retribution.

Isn't he 6'2 and from Western Canada?


#2222784 Unbiased Assessment of Each Player

Posted by Guest on 04 November 2011 - 03:26 PM

Hey everyone! Long time lurker here. Finally have something to post, so I figured I would make an account.

I've noticed that everyone has been extremely pessimistic towards our players (I wonder why...) so I wanted to give my take on how I think each player has actually been playing. So, heeeeere we goooo with my book report on the Red Wings thus far:

Forwards:

Justin Abdelkader: (B) Taking Abdelkader for what he is, he has not played bad. He is not a guy who is going to score 20 goals or be a major force offensively, but he usually plays solid defensively and has been very good on the forecheck. Through 11 games he has 1 goal and 1 assist with an even rating, obviously, you would like to see him contribute a little more offensively or atleast drop the mitts more, but for what we expect from him, he has more or less met the expectations of him.

Dan Cleary: (D+) Where to start with Cleary. The problem with him is that he is one of those guys who probably won't contribute by himself, he needs skilled players around him. However, even when playing in the top 6, he hasn't contributed much. For a guy who was on a tear last night, you would obviously like to see him score much more because quite frankly his 1 goal and 2 assists through 11 games with a minus 3 rating is not acceptable for him.

Pavel Datsyuk: (B) Historically, Datsyuk is a slow starter, but this season seems extra slow for him. He just seems off. A lot of bad passes and poor shot selection. His backchecking has been typical of him (meaning incredible), but he is a -5 right now. Unacceptable for Datsyuk. He does have 2 goals and 6 assists through the first 11 though, so his production is on par as always, but defensively, he needs to step his game up.

Gustav Nyquist: (Inc) Can't really give Nyquist a grade seeing how he didn't get much of a chance to play. Hopefully in the future he will be given more opportunity.

Patrick Eaves: ( C ) Hurt by injuries and has been a healthy scratch. Not too much you can say about Eaves seeing how he has only played six games.

Drew Miller: ( C ) Honestly, I don't know what Drew Miller brings to the table. Why he is ever chosen over Eaves or even Brunnstrum, who wasn't given much of a chance so far, is beyond me. He is solid defensively and on the PK (which apparently is a rarity on this team?), but other than that, you can't expect much from him. 0 goals, 2 assists, and a plus 2 through 9 games, which I guess is on pace for what is expected of him production.

Jiri Hudler: (C+) Here's the problem with Hudler, if he isn't playing in the top six, he won't contribute. This isn't 2008 or 2009 when he was playing on the third line with Filppula and Samuelsson (which for the record is a incredible third line).You can't stick him with Abdelkader or Bertuzzi and expect him to produce. That's not his game. The bottom line is that he needs to play with Datsyuk. That will probably be the only way he will play to his potential. Overall I don't think he has been as bad as everyone thinks. He's been working hard and has logged 2 goals and 2 assists and a plus 1 rating in 10 games, which is a little below where you would like to see him at this point, but production is down across the board. What worries me is two things: First, his 12 PIM (way too high for him) and second, he only has 10 shots in 10 games. Definitely needs to shoot the puck more.

Henrik Zetterberg: (C-) 2 goals, 2 assists, and -6. That should pretty much speak for itself. What is going on with Zetterberg? Is it just that he has simply lost a step? Is he not the player he used to be? Even when playing with Datsyuk he couldn't get anything going, even with a ridiculous 48 shots. I wouldn't be surprised if he was injured.

Darren Helm: (A) Darren Helm might be one of the Red Wings best player through the first 11 games. He is easily the hardest working player on the team. Never takes a shift off. Last night against Calgary his line was clearly the best and I think Helm needs to be rewarded with more ice time.

Todd Bertuzzi: (D) Can somebody tell me where Bertuzzi fits in on this team? This guy needs to be a healthy scratch every night. Overall, he is just playing bad hockey. His 18 PIM are leading the team and his physical play is almost non-existent.

Cory Emmerton: (A) For being a rookie playing his first set up NHL games, Emmerton has been very good. He has a goal and an assist with a plus rating, so you can't really say anything too bad about him.

Valtteri Filppula: (A-) I know a lot of people on this forum like to hate on Fil, but at the end of the day, he has been on of our best players. He started off the season on fire, then like everyone else, went cold. His defensive play has been solid (per usual) and he has even contributed much more than he should offensively with 2 goals, 5 assists and a plus 3 rating through 11 games. The stat that really sticks out for me is that he has 20 shots (just as much as Franzen).

Fabian Brunnstrom: (Inc) Hasn't been given much of a chance to prove he belongs.

Johan Franzen: (B) 20 shots for The Mule is unacceptable. He is our best goal scorer and needs to start acting like it. He does have 4 goals and 3 assists so far, which is on par for his usual season, but I feel like over the last few seasons his scoring has become much more inconsistent. For now, we'll just blame it on the whole team playing poorly.

Tomas Holmstrom: (C+) He still has the fire, that's for sure. Despite diminishing minutes, he has still posted a goal and three assists in 9 games with a plus rating and has been his usual pesky self on the power play. Overall, he has been pretty solid.

Defense:

Jakub Kindl: (B) Not a bad start to Kindl's first full season in the NHL. He has played much better than I expected him to, logging two assists, and has not made too many rookie mistakes. Overall, pretty good play from Kindl.

Nicklas Lidstrom: (A) The Captain has been our best player. Period.

Ian White: (B-) I never expected him to replace Brian Rafalski, so with that in mind, he has been a pretty solid addition. Not a gamebreaker by any means, but he has been good overall and a solid pickup for the Wings.

Mike Commodore: (Inc) Played has first game against Calgary and did not look too bad. However, he does look incredibly slow. If he can chip in offensively once every 6 games and post a plus rating, I think everyone will be happy with him. Plus, he is not afraid to fight, so we have that to look forward to.

Brad Stuart: (C-) No goals, no assists, and a minus 4 rating. For a guy logging top four minutes, that is unacceptable.

Jonathan Ericsson: (C+) For what I was expecting from Ericsson (which is nothing less than horrendous play), he has actually started off the season pretty well. Him and Kindl have gelled surprisingly well and with one assist and a plus 3, I would say Ericsson is in much better shape than last season. One thing every Wings fan must be glad about is his lack of bonehead mistakes, which have plagued him in the past.

Niklas Kronwall: ( C ) For a guy who just got rewarded with a lifetime contract, Kronwall has not responded very well. He has one goal and two assists but has a horrible -6 rating. Definitely needs to up his game.

Goalies:

Ty Conklin: (C-) He had the horrendous game in Washington, but other than that, he hasn't been too bad. Hopefully he can shape up to be the capable backup that he was in 2009.

Jimmy Howard: (B-) The difference between a good goalie and a great goalie is that a great goalie can steal games. At some point Howard needs to do this because while he has played well during this span of losses, he is still unproven as an elite goaltender.


So there it is, my assessment of each player so far. Sorry for making it incredibly long!


#2222868 11/5 GDT: Ducks 0 at Red Wings 5

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 04 November 2011 - 11:31 PM

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#2222589 Something Funny

Posted by Guest on 03 November 2011 - 11:54 PM



Yes, it was a deliberate move. This guy is known for being a massive troll. Funny stuff.


#2222413 11/3 GDT: Flames 4 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Hiei on 03 November 2011 - 08:59 PM

It is time we rally. Rally behind OUR TEAM.


Joe's been awfully quiet. Team's been slackin.


WE NEED TO START MANUFACTURING OUR OWN LUCK. WE CANNOT RELY ON THE REFEREES TO CALL ALL THE PENALTIES THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEN.



If you are going to JLA anytime soon, GET LOUD. BEAT THE GLASS. DO SOMETHING!

And if you're jumping off the bandwagon, I'm driving, and I will NOT BE SLOWING DOWN FROM THE 70 MPH SPEED LIMIT.



ONWARD WINGS WE SHALL GO, AND WE SHALL BE VICTOOOOOOORRRRRRRRIOUS!


#2221729 Datsyuk & Zetterberg have been split up

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 02 November 2011 - 08:27 PM

Here's what I want to see.


Franzen - Zetterberg - Filppula
Hudler - Datsyuk - Brunnstrom
Cleary - Helm - Eaves
Ericsson - Abdelkader - Bertuzzi


Lidstrom - White
Kronwall - Stuart
Kindl - Commodore


#2220992 John Tortorella's opinion on Joe Thornton

Posted by Aussie_Wing on 01 November 2011 - 07:14 PM

I hate everything about San Jose.


#2221384 This season is over!

Posted by dats13owns on 01 November 2011 - 09:46 PM

After this historic meltdown, the Red Wings are the first team in sports history to be eliminated from the playoffs after being just 12% of the way through the season. Who is to blame for this embarrassing monstrosity?

I personally would like to take a cheese grater to my Red Wings tattoo for making me represent such a poor run failure of an organization. I'm off to San Jose or Washington where I can get some real success in the playoffs...


#2220396 Own success is our downfall

Posted by Andy Pred 48 on 31 October 2011 - 04:34 AM

I'm really starting to think I'm on a Montreal canadiens forum. What is with you guys? Look at the shots in the last 4 games

They outshot the caps, sharks, killed the wild on shots, and were outshot by 1 shot against the jackets


exactly, we are outshooting teams but not burying the biscuit enough to win games.one of two excusess,1) their goalie played on his head, so our guys aint working them out, but is funny how many times we do outshot teams
altogether and only win by the odd goal or lose. when was the last time we got owned on the shot count and won the game?
2)lack of a genuine sniper is costing us games that we should be winning.a fact that should have been addressed by
Kenny before now.

on another note, im happy to discuss topics on here with honest debating but some posters seem to take offence with any thread that dares to question the Wings ideas and shoot the thread down at the off. Im not asking everyone to agree with me but maybe put forward a valid point as to why they dont would be more benefical to all.
The thing is alot of fans on here can only remember the Wings being a winning franchise and havent had to watch them go through a lean spell, and we were dire, a period of 15 years in the 70's to the early 80's of below .500 hockey was no fun believe me. One playoff apperance in 13 season,and coach Neale's one season in the mid 80's when we lost 57 games not won them! i wonder what this board would be like with that sort of record!! Anyway i digress, what i wanted to imply in the org topic was that being so successful is slowly going to catch up with us if we dont make some sort of moves, standing pat will bite us in the butt eventually. There is no need for a complete overhaul by any means, as stated its only 9 games in and we have a winning record to date. I am all for getting some of our younger prospects in and giving them a feel of the big league thou instead of getting in players on 1 to 2 year deals as a stop gap not only would it help the rookies learn, but would also have left more $'s in the bank to make a move come the FA window.


#2220212 Own success is our downfall

Posted by Andy Pred 48 on 30 October 2011 - 11:25 AM

lets see where we are after the 6 game homestand............yep this is usually the answer around here. We'll be ok its just a lul their
going thru,they'll pull out of it. Maybe we have hit the point where the Wings need to rebuild. After so many years of success and low round draft picks, eventually your team is going to be full of these type of players, unless trades take place to up the skill level of the team.Who was the last bonifide superstar we actually drafted in the 1st round? A player who'll ave a pt per game? That'll be back in '83 with Stevie Y, that is too long and yes i know we have traded away alot of our 1st round picks between those years. The problem is our own success and the new cap era. We cant just go out and sign 2 or 3 stars anymore and our low end 1st rounders havent really panned out all that well. Fish would have but for his illness. Kronner is good now and then but isnt consistent enough. Every 1st round pick we had since '93 until '07 we have drafted Dmen. Sheahan is the first Fwd we have tken in the 1st round since Curtis Bowen in '92, and we all know what happened there! So i guess maybe the time for us to keep letting our top prospects mature in the AHL for 3-4 years is coming to an end?
We are running short of options in the current 23 man roster, maybe sending Brunnstrom on waivers is a prelude to calling up some young fresh blood in GR. Time and time again I here Babs and Kenny state that the best players will play, well guys the so called best players aint getting it done as of yet,how much leeway do we give them? Why have talent sitting in the minors when they could mature alongside the vets for a season and learn the trade off them? In the past we never gave them a chance because of our loaded roster, maybe its now time for the wind to change direction and alter our thinking on these matters. We sure need a shake up and unless Kenny has the balls to pull the trigger on a trade, then the only option is to call up the kids. Times are a changing around the league and we cant get left behind.


#2220279 Own success is our downfall

Posted by Andy Pred 48 on 30 October 2011 - 04:51 PM

Exactly how many teams draft a point per game player in the 1st round every year? You talk like it's just a matter of making a 1st round pick to get a superstar.

I havent said it was easy to do have I, Pittsburgh have done it 5 times thou since we have.my point is that we havent had 1 in 28 years, that is not down to bad luck is it? surely we could spot some sort of forward talent in that period of time, Joe Murphy and Keith Primeau have been the closest and they spent most of their careers away from Detroit. My beef is how the system is set up. When there was no cap, the teams who finished in the lower end's of the table got to pick first, so in theory they would have better players going to their org. Now we are supposed to have parity within the league with the cap, so why do we still reward teams who finish bottom with the first draft picks? Surely we should reward teams who manage their budgets and teams better with the higher draft picks at seasons end. This would stop teams, like the Pens did for a few years, tanking for better picks. I know the goal is the Cup but if the league want parity then it has to be done across the board on all aspects of the league's foundations. Its been done like that for ever i know, but we havent had the cap era for ever and with that other changes in the structure need to be made and the draft system is one of them in my opinion.


#2220685 11/1 GDT: Wild 2 at Red Wings 1 (OT)

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 31 October 2011 - 11:39 PM

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#2220552 Welcome to Big Leagues Gustav Nyquist!

Posted by eva unit zero on 31 October 2011 - 01:10 PM

Filppula/Datsyuk/Hudler
Nyquist/Zetterberg/Franzen


You know it's coming.



#2220490 Brunnstrom on waivers

Posted by T.Low on 31 October 2011 - 11:14 AM

he should have played in place of one of our top six who isnt producing, at least give him a chance..




I would have liked to see Babcock let Cleary sit and heal that upper body injury while Barnstorm skates on the Pavels wing to see what he can do. In hindsight, it couldn't have hurt anything.