Posted by kipwinger
on 23 November 2015 - 07:50 PM
Who are the Red Wings? A team that's sitting comfortably in playoff position and one who is now consistently playing well, and often beating, some of the better teams in the league. Yep, that's us.
Seems like there's considerable effort being made to make this team out like its worse than it really is. Look around guys and gals. We are a good team. And the best part? We aren't even as good as we are going to be in a month or two.
Posted by LeftWinger
on 23 November 2015 - 08:42 AM
Bottom line guys, it always stinks to lose someone for nothing...but think of it this way we lost Ferraro and gained Larkin. Jurco is projected to be a higher end player, so I understand keeping him. When it comes to Miller or Andy, its obvious Holland and his coaches feel when it comes to 4th liners those two are the better option. Its not like Holland is beyond waiving vets (Cleary) so I am sure he considered all options. He may have even told Ferraro that he is doing it in HOPES that a team claims him to give him the chance he deserves. Its not like the organization didn't want him, but just ran out of room. This was doing Ferraro a favor to further his NHL career.
(that being said, I am sure glad we didn't lose him for nothing to protect Franzen! )
Good luck Landon! Prove to the world that you belong!
Posted by rick zombo
on 19 November 2015 - 10:19 PM
He allegedly wants to go to Weatern Canada, not Detroit, and the Islanders want an equally skilled defenseman in return to replace him.
Ie it's not happening. Of course all of the details will get lost a year or two from now when everyone says Holland sucks for not being able to acquire him for spare parts.
He has family Western Canada and wants to be close for personal reasons. A real GM like Nill or Yzerman would use pure willpower to induce a tectonic shift of the earth's crust, capable of moving the Pacific coast closer to Michigan. Holland sux.
I agree. Maybe they should try something like baseball has done and give whatever conference wins the all-star game home ice advantage in the final.. thoughts?
I've never liked that rule (despite living in a city where the hometown team hosted the last two WS). But you know what? Even though the rule makes no sense whatsoever, it makes the games more fun to watch.
Regardless of what sport you are talking about, pretty much every team in the world has high points, and low points. To keep a team a contender literally EVERY single year is pretty much impossible. The only franchises that I have seen even come close to this, are the Detroit Red Wings, San Antonio Spurs, St. Louis Cardinals, and New England Patriots. All 4 of these franchises are outliers in their respective sports. Most teams before they become good, have a very very very bad period, just look at the Blackhawks and Kings. Before leading the league the hawks didnt make the playoffs 9 times in 10 years, the Kings didnt make it 6 straight years, and 11 times in 15 years.
My point is, it is unrealistic to expect any team to be a championship contender forever. In my lifetime (I am 33) I have seen 3 era's of Wings, lets call it the Yzerman era, the euro twins era, and the current era. I think because Detroit made a seamless transition between the Yzerman era and Euro Twins era, people have that expectation moving forward, but with the cap that is pretty much impossible.
I have seem a team being run poorly (I am a Lions fan) and the Wings are not that. Our worst case scenario/lowest point has been losing in the first round 3 times in 4 years. When you compare that to what most teams have to go through during any type of transition, that is not bad at all. I guess if you are in a mindset that Nyquist, Tatar, Larkin, Mrazek, DD and company are nothing special and not the players you want moving forward, I get the disappointment, but for those who believe in the core lets just wait and see what the kids can do. Especially with a new coach, we are not just going to become contenders again overnight. Like I have said a million times on this board, we are going through a re-build and to give up a Larkin or Mantha etc. for a rental to get us a round further in the playoffs now is silly IMO. Its not like a player like Jurco is going to get us a Shea Weber. If people want us to trade for a superstar, we are going to need to get rid of a package of kids, I would rather be great later, then a bit better now.
Are you saying that it was a good play for Kindl to change at that moment?
A line change on 3 on 3 is always dangerous. It's Z's man that burns him and then the pucks squeaks through Mrazek from a bad angle. Just an all around bad shift from everybody. 3 on 3 makes the defending team look silly more often then not
We lost because we couldn't bury our chances and we took too many penalties/reffing was terrible. Washington is a much better team than us and we took 3 of a possible 4 points from them. We outplayed them until the third but we could have easily been up by a couple at that point