The reason it's a discussion is because both Holland and Babcock have said a lot of great things about Marchenko and basically stated they like him in the lineup. It's a question of whether or not they like him enough to keep him on there at this point; that point isn't clear and no one can really speculate it either way. Of course everyone is entitled to opinions. I'm not sure if I would jump to the conclusion that Marchenko is #7 quiet yet. Neither Babs not Holland have truly hinted at Marchenko being inferior to Kindl or Smith. They've just spoken positively of him thus far. All we can do is wait and see what happens when Marchenko is healthy again.
Well there's 0% chance he'll be the #7. That would make no sense - he's developing he needs to play. Our #7 spot is for under-performing players (Ian White, Kindl,...) or extras (Lashoff). Prospects with potential either get opportunity in the lineup due to injuries or develop their game in GR. He may be an extra player for the playoffs, but that's different. If you're basing your opinion on what Holand and Babcock say, the quote "We’re going to make sure he’s playing.” - no matter how you read it - negates him sitting in the stands as a #7.
As for whether he'd be in the lineup, He would have to beat out Kindl and Smith. Kindl would have to be waived in either situation. Smith has played well this year and recently (though some people have chosen him as the resident whipping boy). You're not going to diss an established player on your team by replacing him with a prospect just because the prospect played good in his 12 games this year. I think Smith is definitely the better player right now. He would have had to vastly outplayed Smith for this to happen.
Because he's not as good as the vets and it's dumb to play a lesser player because he shoots right
I'm with you on this one. Marchenko's played really well, but we're not going with the inexperienced rookie over B. Smith or Quincey. I don't know why this is so much of a discussion on the board the last few days.
Marchenko may be a real player for us in coming years, but (like with Mrazek) that time isn't now. Let him get used to becoming full time NHLer next year. Adding Zidlicky demonstrated we weren't comfortable going with him into the playoffs.
The only way Marchenko stays in the lineup is if Quincey's foot injury gets worse and forces him out. Even if that happened I think Kindl would get the first call (he's been playing well since returning) and would have to show himself inept (like last year's playoffs).
This is how it works with our prospects. Marchenko's been good, but not Dekeyser good where we are forced to treat him differently and clear a spot for him after a dozen games.
As for Marchenko I am pretty sure you need to send the player down prior to the trade deadline for him to be eligible for the AHL playoffs. (silly rule) I did not see that he went down. I do not know if there is an exception if the player is on IR.
You can't send a player down while he's on IR. They said they would send him down when he's healthy. They sent Jurco down (only on paper) to make him eligible for the AHL playoffs. They had to do that because Jurco hasn't played in the AHL this year, but the paper transaction I guess makes him technically an AHL player. They wouldn't have to do that for Marchenko since he's played substantial time with the Griffins. I think he'll be sent down to keep him playing. There's no sense in keeping him as the #7 and allowing his game to get rusty.
Dellevano stepped aside for Holland, if I'm not mistaken. Its not unheard of. Also, although I'm sure Yzerman wanted it...Ilitch wanted him to have it. Ilitch wanted Yzerman to stay. And i personally am not heartbroken Yzerman runs the show in TB...Im glad he got to be the guy somewhere. I just believe if Ilitch and the fans would have had their first choice, he would have stayed.
Not me. At the time Yzerman had not proven that he could be a competent GM and we had one with a great history of success. I would not have chosen Yzerman just because he was an amazing hockey player.
wtf where'd you hear that? He still has a lot of upside and cole is a 36yr old ufa gotta think a 2nd or 3rd next yr would of been better than giving up on backman
Backman has upside, but Marchenko, XO, Sproul, Jensen are all ahead of him in depth. We couldn't even find a spot in GR and he went back to Sweden. Definitely expendible. He now has a place to play in AHL for Dallas's AHL affiliate.