Wasn't the goal that tied the game a give away by Kronwall as well? It was hard for me to see, but from my vantage point it seemed like his fault (mind you I was on the other side of the arena).
That's what I thought, but I watch the highlights and Helm is responsible for the situation. He tries to beat someone in front of Jimmy and loses the puck. Kronwall looks like he recovers for Helm, but then puck hops over his stick.
I didn't realize the game was over, but I'm glad he was back.
That looked like it could've been ugly, especially with his concussion history.
Dubinsky only got two minutes for it, think he'll get suspended or fined?
I think it's worthy of something else. Not only did he purposefully cross check him in the back of the neck, he also interfered with him in the corner, and he continues with another cross when he's on the ground (and may have also lightly kicked him). To me, that's just unsportsmanlike disregard or disrespect for another player's wellbeing. He obviously thought Crosby went down too easily, but that was a pretty forceful crosscheck and dangerous.
I think Marchenko goes before Smith, but will be interesting once Quincey is back. Can we send Marchenko up and down freely this year? If he hits a threshold and cant be sent down, that's gonna get ugly with 8 defensemen in the mix. As bad as we all think they are, they are actually all pretty serviceable NHL defensemen in reality.
Marchenko's Waiver eligibility only expires if he's played 60 NHL games because he 23.
He's only played 28. Quincey's gone for a while, but I'm not sure he's gone for another 32 games. Even if he is, the organization could opt to send Marchenko down earlier and call up XO or maybe Sproul since he's had a bit of a resurgence and he's never got his shot with the big club (or Jensen as well).
I highly doubt that. Abby got 4.25. Helm has never got the goals that abby has, is playing on the 4th line, has his injury history. All these things contribute to his lower value. I'm guess 3, maybe 3.25 depending on term. I'm a huge Helm fan and I've made it clear that I want to keep him.
There's still many issues with this team, but I never think that Miller is one. PK is 8th - not spectacular, but solid. I do think his time here should be up after this year. We are in a a roster clog situation and there's other guys that will take spots next year or the following one.
well heres a question would you rather have kept eaves and sent miller instead?
Always liked Eaves and he was definitely the better player. He has continued to have injury problems so that's the only knock against him.
Many people would probably argue that the quality in the CHL is as good or better than the NCAA. Maybe SM Liiga too, but most people probably don't know much about that league. Plenty of players around the league go from juniors to the NHL with less than two years in the AHL. It's not unusual, even for the Wings. It's also not unusual for young guys to struggle at first. Again, excuses aren't necessary.
I don't see it as an excuse, I'm giving my view why he's in his current situation. It is unusual for the wings to have a player go from the CHL to the NHL without doing 3 years in the AHL. Look at all these examples of other players from the Red WIngs systems from the CHL:
Mrazek: did almost his full 3 years in the AHL
Quincey: did the full 3 years in the AHL
Kindl: did full 3 years in the AHL
Emmerton: did 3 years+ in the AHL
Mursak: did 3 years in the AHL (though he only made the NHL briefly)
For older perspective, I looked up some older names:
Avery: played parts of 3 years AHL (109 gp)
Jason WIlliams: 3 seasons (173 gp)
It does seem to be the normal path or treatment for Red Wings prospects coming from the CHL especially in the past 20 years. Who have we had that makes the jump without doing the time? Helm and Jurco are 2 exceptions that I can think of recently. I had to go back to Jiri Fischer in 99-00 to find someone else (Jiri only played 25 AHL games over 2 seasons, but he was a 1st rounder). Jurco did 1 and a half years in the AHL. that is less than normal.
But I'm not set on making each prospect do this amount of time as a sort of prerequisite. If AA or Mantha look ready and excel in their call ups earlier, than let them have a spot. I disagree with the treatment of Jurco specifically because he was struggling in the 2nd quarter last season when he could have been sent down to the AHL. Babcock (he made it clear in an interview that he pushed for it) kept him up and played him sporadically between the 4th line and being scratched when I believe he was better served playing big, top line minutes in the AHL.
Anyway, I believe it was a mistake, but not one that he can't overcome. At this point, I'm all good with putting him on the 4th line and having him work his way up a la Abby. If he plays well, he'll get his chances on the 3rd line or elsewhere.
You're wrong. He had plenty of opportunities. 60% of his ice-time last year. Half of that with at least one of our top scorers. Plus, it is actually possible to score even in a lesser role. He had a poor year. Just like with Mantha, it's ok to say it. Doesn't make him a bust or mean he'll never be better. Not even that terrible a year either, all things considered. It's one thing to refute the few who seem to writing him off, but you don't need to make excuses.
And I wouldn't say he was mishandled at all. He was originally called up as an injury replacement, and performed well enough to earn a spot last year. Even if he had started in GR, he'd have been called up for injuries soon enough anyway. If anything, he's been mishandled this year. Playing, even in a less than optimal role, is better than not playing.
I agree with the first half and krsmith slightly misunderstood my last post. He did have good opportunities offensively at the beginning of last year. It has come out that he had these back problems so that partially explains his offensive struggles. I think the other factor that is responsible is that he didn't have that foundation of confidence and training that comes from playing in GR for an extended period. Down there you go through the struggles of confidence and injuries and poor play and learn how to overcome them and also build up a personal training habits and routine to limit their occurence.
I think he absolutely should have been sent down last year and that would have helped his game and development. That's where most think he was mishandled. He did a lot of defensive things right last year so Babs wanted him on the team (this is where Bill's views on Miller vs. AA are relevant).
It's good to see that he's getting the offensive mojo back in GR. It's still hard to see how he will fit into the roster, though. Having him on anywhere higher than the 4th line would necessitate Sheahan on the 4th and Miller out. Or he waits for injury which is probably the most likely situation.