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#2650006 Goalie Battle

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 25 January 2016 - 03:10 PM

I'm a JImmy supporter and I think he's nowhere as bad or "average" as many say on this site. But with Mrazek so emphatically grabbing the #1 spot I do think it will be increasingly important to get rid of JImmy's contract. I was originally fine with Jimmy sharing for this year and next year and then being an overpayed backup for the remaining couple of years of his contract, but the transitioning looks to have already taken place and I think Mrazek will demand a heftier price accordingly when his contract's up. The longer we wait, the more other teams think of JImmy as a backup goalie and the less attractive he looks. It may be the offseason or next year, but the sooner the higher the value he'll have i think. 


Finding a backup isn't that big a problem and I'm sure we could get one back in the deal or pick up someone in the offseason.

#2649846 1/23 GDT : Anaheim Ducks at Red Wings, 7:00 EST

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 23 January 2016 - 10:10 PM

As soon as we get Richards, Green Nyquist and Tatar back we should be fine. Oh wait....

Well we will be feeling the absence of Kronwall, but our D should be able to cover for him.


Of course everyone is going to blame Jimmy, but I don't think he had a bad game at all. We gave way too many good chances.

#2649832 1/23 GDT : Anaheim Ducks at Red Wings, 7:00 EST

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 23 January 2016 - 09:44 PM

Ducks announcers were sooo annoying:


Redwings don't have a defencemen on the....oops Green is on the ice.


Watch Gibson drop his stick....sorry no he never dropped his stick.


He said a bunch of other similar mistakes earlier as well.

#2648973 song title game

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 19 January 2016 - 02:41 PM

How Soon is Now? - The Smiths


#2648876 song title game

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 18 January 2016 - 10:13 PM

Cum on feel the noize - Quiet Riot



P.S. I LOVE Bad Brains! Kind of feel bad answering a great song with glam metal. 

#2648411 Red Wings at the Halfway Point

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 17 January 2016 - 04:15 PM


Boston was the better team, we weren't beating them with the team we had even with injured Zetterberg playing in the other 3 games, they are a bad matchup for us. I don't get what is so hard to understand. If both teams were 100% healthy, Boston was still the better team. I get being a homer/bias but come on, other teams are in fact better then the Wings. We don't win every playoff matchup.


You cannot evaluate who was injured or not either, just because Alfie and Z missed games and the Bruins didn't doesn't mean they weren't injured.

I was talking about why they were better. If you look at my original posts I was mostly talking about the playoff inexperience of our rookies that year. And, yes, I thought injuries were a factor that made us worse. I like looking in depth at the individual factors. You can call me a homer or question my ability to understand your stance if you want, but I'm not arguing that if we had Z we would have beat them - This is all in the context of discussing the current team. Somebody brought up then 13-14 playoffs and I shared my reasons why I thought we lost (or why we weren't as good as the Bruins) and why I think our current team is in a better position to do with those factors. 


Then you jumped on the injury comment and now we're sidetracked in this discussion. If we have 2 of our top 6 out of the lineup and they have none, we are more injured in most people's view, I would think. You're arguing against the fact that having top 6 players out of your lineup hurts your team? Nowhere have I said that just because the Bruins "didn't doesn't mean they weren't injured." injured is not a yes or no question to me. It's levels of injuries - I have do doubt that everyone is somewhat injured at playoff time (to paraphrase the initial cliche), but that has no bearing on my point. We had players missing and some other significant injuries that players were dealing with that year. I'm not claiming it's the only reason we lost, but to look at the whole picture you have to consider it. 

#2648338 Red Wings at the Halfway Point

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 16 January 2016 - 11:39 PM

They are still not 100% is what I'm saying. We don't know the raw data but let's not us use that as an excuse for why we lost to Boston. We got absolutely destroyed, and our small guys didn't play too good.

There's some very straight forward raw data we do know: Z missed 3 games and Alfie missed 2 games due to injury. Who from the Bruins missed games? None that I can see. The only players who didn't play their full 12 playoff games that year were prospects (Mezaros, Kevin Miller) and were most likely scratched


Excuse vs. Explanation is the difference of view point we have. I don't get why many don't want to look at injury as a consideration. I assume you think having Z is a good thing. If yes, not having him might have made us a worse team and played a part in us losing.


Why do most people think the Habs have sunk in the standings? Should we not consider their lack of Price?

#2648265 Red Wings at the Halfway Point

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 16 January 2016 - 01:58 PM

The problem is now we're riding Larkin and he has zero postseason experience.  Which is a big factor in why I'm not expecting much this year.

That's true, but that's only one player who doesn't have playoff experience as oppose Ny, Tat, DK and I think Sheahan and Jurco that year vs. Boston.


Also, Larkin jumped into the NHL without transition problems and the WJ and WC - He seems pretty good at jumping into pressure situation and performing. Hopefully that continues in the playoffs.

#2648209 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 15 January 2016 - 08:47 PM

That Kronwall was prior to his 7 year contract....you won't see that Kronwall ever again.


Same with Ericsson, he used to hit and fight prior  to his 6 year deal...



...just observations......

We've seen some Kronwal's since the contract. Need I remind you of him being suspended vs. TB. He is doing it less, though. I think part of that has to do with the fact that he's getting older. The other part is that he's now the #1 and he plays more minutes and has to be depended on more. When he was behind Lids and Raffy he play a little more risky going for big hits (also have Stuart in his prime helped). 


Edit: Kickazz beat me to it!!!

#2648070 1/14 GDT : Red Wings at Arizona Coyotes, 9:00 EST

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 14 January 2016 - 11:47 PM

Sweet! I had to leave in the middle of the 3rd when we were down 2-0. Nice surprise to see we pulled this one out in the end.


Also great to see Pav have a 3 point night! And Nyquist with a goal and an assist - maybe some of the goose hate will simmer down around here now that he put some points back on the board.

#2647809 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 14 January 2016 - 01:30 AM

Luckily we got him for 2 more years so we can notice if his skating gets better

He has shown himself to be a great skater in my opinion - I just meant not amongst the faster in the league. I love the Green signing so I have no problem watching him skate for at least 2 more years.

#2647808 Red Wings at the Halfway Point

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 14 January 2016 - 01:20 AM

I totally expect to make the playoffs again and not by the skin of Octopi teeth either.  I don't think we are a contender but I cant complain with the performance we are seeing from a team with very  young or old players on the team.  Blash has change the face of the game, but I think some of his strategies are easily beat by more experienced coaches.  He too will improve and I totally expect to see us trully contending in the next few years.

Not saying we're a contender, but who is in the East other than Washington? If Habs have Price back then, sure, they could do it, but I think they're still lacking pieces. I think NYR are a contender, but any other team we could give run for their money.  Even of the teams I mentioned, Washington is the one who I would be really worried about. So I actually think we're not far from taking the east despite our struggles. It would take the best from Mrazek and our offence finding a higher gear, though.

#2647642 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 12 January 2016 - 07:34 PM

Yeah, Okposo is a UFA so he would be a rental. That would be a bad trade since Nyquist has 3 more years on his deal. Nyquist also has more goals (only 2 and less assists, but still) so that wouldn't help out our goal starved team. Okposo in the offseason could be an idea, but not sure we'll have much roster space.

#2647618 1/11 GDT - Red Wings at Kings - 10:30 PM EST

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 12 January 2016 - 02:34 PM

Just saw the highlights.  LOL at Mike Green on that first goal.  Not the best way to defend the 2 on 1.  

Yeah, he just slid a bit too fast. his stick is in good position to take away the pass until the last second then open up the lane. Larkin should have been back covering and the timing would have worked out. 


Anyway, the next play in the NHL.com highlights Green does a good job covering a 3-on-1 so he learned from the mistake, took away the passes and let Howie play the shooter.

#2646748 Wings Need on D and Glaring Inconsistencies

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 08 January 2016 - 04:45 AM

Niklas Kronwall.
10 mil a season for 8 years would have brought both Suter and Parise here to Detroit. We gave the 20 mil to Howard, Weiss, Ericsson, Tootoo, Samuelsson, and Cleary instead.
DeKeyser chose us. He's not a hit for Holland. Alfedsson, Green, and Richards were let go by other teams. That's the kind of UFA Kenny can land - a player who was good 4 years ago. And Kenny likes to pay them for their past accomplishments instead of current value.
Helm + Nyquist + Ouellet.

Holland is a coattail rider.

Devellano, Bowman, Andersson, and Nill are the brains. Holland got super lucky to have those 4 guys around him. Bowman and Nill are gone now, Devellano has gone senile, and Andersson is a small fish in a big, saturated pond now instead of the only fish in an uncharted pond. That's why Holland has looked so lost over the last 5 years and Dallas and Chicago are enjoying success.

- Kronwall (34) = Jones (21) ????? also K has NTC or maybe NMC

- 10 mill probably wouldn;t have landed P+S IMO, but I wouldn't want Parise for 10 mill anyway.

- Your DK rebuttal also applies to P+S - Free agents are free to choose - It's not always certain GMs fault for not getting them. Sometime it's for money, sometime's it;s hometown, sometimes it organizations reputation...


Not going into the coattail argument. You have no idea what goes on behind the closed doors of the organization and your claims just show a personal bias.


Anyway, I know you won't change your mind. I think the team is in a great position as our strategy of building from the draft is coming to fruition. We did some placefiller deals in these transition years (Sammy, Tootoo, coliacovo, Weiss, cleary). I'm glad we didn;t trade away our draft picks or get tied up overpaying UFAs (Other than with Weiss). Good night.