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In Topic: Alfie wants to play

23 July 2014 - 08:15 PM

The Detroit Red Wings have long had the philosophy that prospects need to be "ripe" before they make the jump to the National Hockey League. That means after getting drafted, our prospects spend around 3-5 years between junior or overseas and the AHL before finally getting their shot in the NHL. This has proven to be successful for many years now and I don't see them drastically changing that system any time soon.

 

I don't see there being much of a chance that Mantha makes the big club this season, despite how highly fans, media and management regard him, nor do I think Jurco will start the season in the NHL. I'm actually a fan of the Red Wing way, of over ripening players, and I like the idea of having a farm oozing with talent. Depth is probably the biggest key to a teams success in the league today, and because of our drafting, development and ripening methods, we are definitely stacked with depth in the minors.

 

There is a reason players like Nyquist and Tatar were able to jump into the NHL with little to no growing pains, while highly regarded players drafted by other teams get thrown in the fire too early and flame out due to not being ready, and having their confidence destroyed. I'm just as excited for all these kids as anyone but I think it would be a huge mistake to throw them in the best league in the world before they're fully ready, both physically and mentally. In my opinion, on the back end, Marchenko could be ready for full time duty in the NHL, other than that I think Backman, Ouellet, Sproul and Jensen can all use more seasoning in the AHL. Up front, Jurco is the closest to being ready, but could still use another season down in the minors, along with Pulkkinen, Mantha, Athanasiou, etc.

 

Anyway, point being, I don't think there is any harm in resigning a future hall-of-famer, veteran like Alfredsson, allowing all of our forward prospects another season in Grand Rapids to round out there game. Having these guys getting top line minutes and loads of PP time down in Grand Rapids, to me is a lot more beneficial than getting 3rd line minutes and no PP time up in Detroit.

 

 

As for our RFA's that are not waiver exempt, I don't think there is any chance whatsoever that any team picks up Nestrasil, with a slim chance a team takes a chance on Ferraro, although that may be even less likely now with uncle Tony now as the assistant coach. My only fear is that we lose Callahan. The kid is coming off a career year with the Griffins, is an absolute warrior and would be a great addition to any teams 4th line. I hope Holland doesn't give any team the chance to claim him. No he's not going to put up a lot of points but I think he would be a huge loss...

 

Best post I have read today.  Thanks!


In Topic: Rule Changes in the AHL (what the NHL has considered)

17 July 2014 - 07:15 PM

Personally, I love the OT rules.  The other two rules I am not a big fan of.


In Topic: Holland Wiki page edited

14 July 2014 - 07:10 PM

No one here is saying they could do a better job as GM. All people are saying is that there are other potential GMs out there that could have better addressed the team's needs. Looking at other organizations like Dallas and Tampa, there is an argument to be made.

 

Dallas, a team that was the last place team in the Western Conference to secure a playoff spot and hasn't been relevant since they lost to the Wings back in 2008.

 

Tampa Bay, a team that actually did pretty well last year and then got swept by Montreal.  The past two seasons before that they didn't even make the playoffs.  This is with Yzerman at the helm who was considered to be better than Holland.

 

Sure, these teams seemed to address their teams needs, but we will see how the product on the ice looks and how they do in playoffs.


I don't know. I just don't find it funny much. 

 

Same here man.  I guess I am not a butthurt fan.  Sure, I wanted to see a high priced free agent come into play.  At the same time though, I am ok with the moves that Holland has made so far.  Giving the kids a chance is what he needed to do and he is going to do it.  Cleary is just an insurance policy.  He won't be beating out someone for a roster spot if they are better. 


 

It kills me when posters cite Holland not signing all these UFAs to big deals as a good thing, and that's why we want him, when in fact, he is out there pitching the same huge deals to the UFAs as everyone else, he just keeps getting rejected. How do they conveniently ignore that? And it's not just this year! The stupidity of some of the statements in light of the facts is mind-blowing to me. Holland offers a guy the same deal or a bigger deal, guy signs with other team, and somehow we're lucky to have a GM that doesn't sign UFAs to huge deals? Seriously? I just don't even know where to start when people are so loyal that they can't begin to be even remotely objective about the realities of the situation.

 

Being objective would be looking at the entire situation.  Suter and Parise wanted to play in Minnesota.  They have ties to the area.  Same with Vanek.  Boyle has family in New York and requested to play there for less since the Rangers were against the cap.  Players will do what it takes to go somewhere they want to go.  When Dekeyser chose to come to Detroit, and the contracts were the same no matter where he went, did you give credit to Holland for this?


In Topic: Hollands new contract a no brainer?

03 July 2014 - 02:05 PM

We blew it with Yzerman, turns out he's becoming a pretty good GM.  Look at the wheeling and dealing he's done this past week, very impressive.  Although I think the St Louis fiasco could have been avoided, he managed to get a good deal out of it.  I doubt he will come back to Detroit with the 4 year contract he has with Tampa. 

 

Jim Nill in 2 seasons has turned Dallas around.

 

Meanwhile, Babs and Kenny are still looking for that mythical free agent tree, unable to make a trade while droning on about how these are different times as every serious cup contender made some kind of move to better their team.  Any wonder no one wants to come to Detroit? 

 

And both teams saw first round exits last year, same as us.

 

In fact, Tampa Bay made the playoffs in Yzerman's first season as GM, and then missed the playoffs the next two seasons.  Yea, we really "blew it with Yzerman".  If anything Yzerman is a good GM, but I wouldn't say he was a guy we missed on.  Holland and Yzerman are probably close to being the same than we think.

 

The point is that neither of these teams with the moves they made have resulted in success beyond making the playoffs like us.


In Topic: Wings sign Andy Miele (former Hobey Baker winner)

03 July 2014 - 07:34 AM

If anything, this guy will be a force on a very strong Griffins team.  Especially if Jurco is playing with the big club.