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#2595182 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by Nightfall on 17 April 2015 - 07:54 AM

I have been watching the Griffins all season and they really are on fire right now.  This team is going to make some serious noise in the playoffs. 




#2593921 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by Nightfall on 16 April 2015 - 02:09 PM

 

He's as big of an idiot as Subban for threatening both the league and the Habs, especially in the post Bertuzzi-incident NHL.

 

Let the players handle it on the ice.  

 

Agreed.  An eye for an eye is so prevalent in our society.  It wasn't like Subban was trying to injure him.  The right call was made on the ice to give him 5 and a game.  Now, if the Sens players want to do something in retaliation, they better be ready to pay the price for it.  You know the refs will be watching and the penalties will be dealt out quickly.

 

The coaching staff should have just kept their mouths shut about it and just let the series play out.  Yes, Cameron is upset that he lost one of his better players.  I get it.  When Draper had his face crushed against the boards by Claude, Bowman didn't promise retribution or threaten.  He let his players handle it, and they did.  It took a few months, but it did happen.




#2592080 4/9/15 GDT Red Wings 3 @ Canadiens 4 *Warning post #888 & 906*

Posted by Nightfall on 10 April 2015 - 02:39 PM

I'm honestly surprised they called a penalty on Smith rather than just have the faceoff.

 

I am not surprised to be honest.  I was more surprised at the Ryan Clowe penalty that wasn't called when he reached over the boards and stopped the puck with his stick in the middle of the play.  That was so blatant it isn't even funny.  This incident was Smith was insignificant, but if I saw it, I would call it.  Instant replay didn't show very much though.  Would have been an interesting coaches challenge.




#2592079 Definition of a real fan

Posted by Nightfall on 10 April 2015 - 02:36 PM

Ok, I am game.

 

My definition and attitude towards fandom have changed through the years.  Before, I always thought a fan was someone who supported the team through thick and thin.  Now, I believe a fan is someone who enjoys watching said team.  No more, no less.

 

Lets face facts here, we all want to say we are going to be fans of the Wings for life.  Things change.  Teams change.  In another 20 years, this team may be the dead things again.  Then most of us will go elsewhere and be fans of other teams.  Some may stick around through the thin times, but I don't blame anyone who won't support a team that has a major downturn. 

 

I know many Chicago fans that stopped supporting the Blackhawks because of what the previous owners were doing to the team.  The blackouts, bad business decisions, and really just giving a big middle finger to the fans was a tough pill to swallow.  Many just abandoned the Blackhawks and supported other teams.  When the owner passed away and his son took over, he made major changes that brought the fans back.

 

These days, fandom isn't forever.  People change.  Sports clubs change.  We all won't be Wings fans for life.  Some of us may stick with the team, but I don't have an issue with people moving on from one team to support another.

 

Be a fan of whatever team you would like.  Support the right team with your time and money.  Thats what it all comes down to.




#2591824 4/9/15 GDT Red Wings 3 @ Canadiens 4 *Warning post #888 & 906*

Posted by Nightfall on 09 April 2015 - 10:13 PM

 
I figured you were hiding because the goaltending was too poor to defend.


Or because I support the refs more often than I am against them?

No to either of those.

I just prefer to discuss hockey and the red Wings in a more constructive light with members who know what they are talking about. This forum, sadly, has jumped the shark.


#2591817 4/9/15 GDT Red Wings 3 @ Canadiens 4 *Warning post #888 & 906*

Posted by Nightfall on 09 April 2015 - 10:05 PM

 
It's one thing if the Wings were a fringe playoff team all season, but they were'nt. They were challenging for the Conference. Then the past month and a half they became a disaster. It's to be expected that fans will feel this way.

If it was just this I would be ok with that. It is every little thing though and its just about all negative.

Holland is a joke.
Smith sucks.
Erickson sucks.
Babcock should be fired.
Tank it!

On and on it goes. The record gets played so much here it is getting old. Part of the reason why I went elsewhere and why I will keep my visits sporadic.


#2591779 4/9/15 GDT Red Wings 3 @ Canadiens 4 *Warning post #888 & 906*

Posted by Nightfall on 09 April 2015 - 09:41 PM

I enjoy the cantina atmosphere.

 

I just imagine the forum members that are all negative as people like Greedo or the guy who got the death sentence on 12 systems.  :D

 

At least the positive forum members here don't end up dead.  They just walk out like Han Solo did after shooting Greedo.  Usually headed off to greener pastures.  :D




#2591765 4/9/15 GDT Red Wings 3 @ Canadiens 4 *Warning post #888 & 906*

Posted by Nightfall on 09 April 2015 - 09:36 PM

There are more positive things being said about the Wings in opposing teams' subreddits. I love this forum, I think there are a lot of intelligent people and the moderation is on point but lately, it's been so negative. Do you guys realize that we at currently complaining that we don't like the WAY that our team clinched for the 24th year in a row? That's ridiculous and entitled and spoiled. This team is not "average at best" they are better than average as proven by their record this year. I have not been alive long enough to see them miss the playoffs. Think about that and then put yourselves in the shoes of literally ever other team and try to imagine behaving the same way as you are now.
It is 100% understandable to be critical of aspects of the team play, but to claim the sky is falling after every loss or bad goal is completely absurd. I'm sorry, I love you guys but it's disheartening to see so many "fans" express more hatred toward their own players than they do to the Hawks. We're better than this.
/endrant

 

This is part of the reason why I went elsewhere.  This place really has turned into Mos Eisley Spaceport of Wings fans.  




#2591758 4/9/15 GDT Red Wings 3 @ Canadiens 4 *Warning post #888 & 906*

Posted by Nightfall on 09 April 2015 - 09:35 PM

I'm starting Mrazek against Carolina on Saturday, might be a must win for 3rd spot

 

Heck, I am starting Mrazek for the playoffs if its my choice.  The kid is a winner at every level he has played at.  If the Wings are going to crash and burn this year like 90% of LGW members think they are, may as well put Mrazek in so he can learn a tough lesson about the playoffs and come back stronger next season.




#2591745 4/9/15 GDT Red Wings 3 @ Canadiens 4 *Warning post #888 & 906*

Posted by Nightfall on 09 April 2015 - 09:31 PM

Two former NHL goaltenders on FSN disagree with you

 

Other analysts agree with me.  So who is right here?

 

Answer:  Who gives a crap.

 

The result is in the books.  Keep bitching about the bad goal all you want and siding with analysts that you agree with.  Jimmy Howard has a lot to play for in these playoffs.  In his time here in Detroit, he has only advanced to the 2nd round 1 time.  All other times have been 1st round exits.  Now, its a "put up or shut up" year IMHO.  I would focus more on that personally than a deflected shot that Jimmy would have stopped if it didn't go off of his own defenseman's stick 15 feet in front of the goal.




#2591717 4/9/15 GDT Red Wings 3 @ Canadiens 4 *Warning post #888 & 906*

Posted by Nightfall on 09 April 2015 - 09:24 PM

Yes they are, but a why is Howards five hole open anyways??

 

There are spaces all around a goalie that it could have went through.  I suppose if it went upstairs on him you would have asked why he wasn't standing up.  Either that or if it deflected far side you would have asked why he didn't come out more.  Or if it deflected short side and beat him you would have asked why he wasn't flush to the post.  So many possibilities.




#2591697 4/9/15 GDT Red Wings 3 @ Canadiens 4 *Warning post #888 & 906*

Posted by Nightfall on 09 April 2015 - 09:21 PM

 

Don't worry the rest of LGW will for you....unfortunately...

 

Yea, I know.  The one nice thing about playing/reffing hockey for the last 20 years is that I never turned into a "armchair fan".  I think a lot of fans critical of players, goaltending, or coaching would be a lot more understanding if they played the sport at least at the rec league level.




#2591638 4/9/15 GDT Red Wings 3 @ Canadiens 4 *Warning post #888 & 906*

Posted by Nightfall on 09 April 2015 - 09:16 PM

Deflection off Quincey's stick.  I can't fault Howard for that one.




#2590866 Is A First Round Exit Imminent?

Posted by Nightfall on 09 April 2015 - 08:09 AM

I think its funny that before the season started, everyone was propping the Kings up on the pedestal saying that they were the team to beat this year.  Now, if you look at the standings, the Kings have only a 21.6 percent chance to make it in.  If they make it in, are they still the favorites even if its by the skin of their ass?

 

What constitutes a favorite in the playoffs?  Past playoff performance?  Health of the team?  How hot they are coming into the playoffs?  Puck luck?

 

The Wings are banged up a bit with Dats obviously not playing at 100% and Abdelkader and Franzen out with injuries.  That doesn't play into their favor.  What does play into their favor is that for the first 3/4 of the season, the Wings were a great team.  Before the trade deadline, the Wings were sitting pretty.  Since then, they have struggled to put things together.

 

The keys to winning the Stanley Cup come down to the same things every year.

 

1.  Health - Is your team healthy?  I think Tampa Bay and Montreal learned this lesson last year when their goalies went down with injury last year.  Tampa Bay lost in 4 straight.

2.  Hot goaltending - Regular season doesn't mean a lot here.  Can your goalie make clutch saves when it counts?

3.  Puck luck - Can you get the puck to bounce favorably for you more often than it bounces against you?  If it bounces against you, do you have the mental fortitude to overcome it?

4.  Special teams - Can your team capitalize on the PP and keep the puck out of the net on the PK?

5.  The hero factor - Some players just step up at playoff time.  Does your team have a hero?

 

I don't know if the Wings are going to be a first round exit or not.  What I can say is that we have had lower seeded teams like the Kings winning the Cup or the Oilers going to the finals.  The cup teams last year were the 6th place Kings vrs the 5th place Rangers.

 

In short, if you get in, anything can happen.  Your team can catch fire, players find a whole new level, and with some luck you can win a series.  No one knows how a team is going to do and that is why I love the NHL playoffs.

 

The Wings may in fact be headed for a first round exit just based on the health of the overall team right now.  However, their PP has been lethal all year and their PK has been good as well.  I am really eager to see if players like Tatar will take another step and become a playoff beast this year.




#2590661 Team next season?

Posted by Nightfall on 08 April 2015 - 08:45 AM

No Phaneuf please.  Lets bring the kids up and keep promoting our prospects.  Phaneuf isn't worth 7 million a season.  You pay 7 million a season for an elite defenseman.