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#2528685 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Nightfall on 01 July 2014 - 04:29 PM

No offense but we are not Edmonton. You can't tell me a player like Connor Mcdavid doesn't instantly make us better.

 

Just saying that tanking for a season doesn't indicate that we will be instantly better.  I don't know what Connor McDavid would do to our team at all.  People thought the same thing of first round picks in the past that have fizzled out.

 

I will say this much....

 

Detroit will find themselves out of the playoff picture in the next few years.  May not happen this coming year, but it will once Dats and Z get further up in age and don't produce as much.  Then you will get your wish about tanking.




#2528673 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Nightfall on 01 July 2014 - 04:24 PM

I semi agree. The quickest way for us to get better fast is to tank this season. One of the best drafts of the decade is coming up and it would be nice to get a top ten pick.

 

Yup, that works so well for Edmonton with all their high draft picks.




#2525589 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by Nightfall on 24 June 2014 - 09:46 PM

mar, I fully understand the rebuilding process, I just wish we would do it or go for the cup. I don't mind if we have 2-3 losing seasons, get highly rated top draft choices and then begin the next 15 year run. Its the half a$$ patch and pug approach that bothers me. We are not getting better and we are not getting the young high end talent we need to get better.

When it comes to bad for long periods of time, I remember the 70's all to well. The RW's had no real plan. Very similar to what we are doing today.

 

Rebuilding through the draft really is the key.  You are right that we don't have the next Dats and Zetterberg in the system right now.  We have some solid talent, but nothing really elite.  As for going for broke, I really don't believe that is the best way to run a team.

 

I will say that we are going to have some losing seasons down the road.  We can't keep up this playoff streak forever.  I would like them to make a couple moves, stay competitive, and get into the playoffs.  This season, the #6 and #7 teams made it to the finals.  Anything can happen come playoff time.




#2525477 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by Nightfall on 24 June 2014 - 01:02 PM

 

I'm not sure whether that is the case with Mrazek right now. Maybe they really want him to finally play 60+ games for the Griffins, or they think there's a couple of things he has left to work on? I don't know, but I would have thought bringing him up this season would have made more sense too, unless the Wings want more bargaining power when he's an RFA at the end of the year

 

They want him to play more, and I know I would like to see that as well.  Bringing Mrazek up wouldn't change the starting goalie this year.  If they chose not to sign Gus, then the savings wouldn't be very much because Mrazek would get more as a result of being called up.  Now, if Detroit could save $2 million or more by promoting Mrazek, then I would be ok with it.  That isn't the case though.




#2525191 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by Nightfall on 23 June 2014 - 07:24 AM

I don't think it will be at all.

Cause even if mraz lives up to his hype i see the goalies doing 50:50 for a couple years. Then Howard can resign as the backup or go elsewhere. But mraz will be fairly cheap for awhile.


At the end I the day our goalie sitatuion IS THE LEAST of our concerns for awhile.

 

Mrazek will only be fairly cheap so long as we keep him in the minors until he has to move up.  Just think if we would have brought him up last year after he won the Calder cup, he would be demanding more money at the end of this season.  I do agree that the goalie situation we have here is the least of our concerns.




#2525077 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by Nightfall on 21 June 2014 - 08:17 PM

Great signing.  Mrazek will get 60+ games for the Griffins next year.  Its is last year of AHL eligibility so I am glad to see him in Grand Rapids for his final year.  I would rather see him play 60 games in the AHL as opposed to 20 in the NHL as a backup.  After next year, Mrazek will be with Detroit and competing for Howards job.




#2524960 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by Nightfall on 20 June 2014 - 09:34 PM

If you had to bet on it. Would you bet he remains a 25 goal a year player? Or continue his downward trend of scoring less and playing less due to injuries?

That's why I would've bought him out buts it's too late now. Holland has no balls and this team will continue to be mediocre for awhile.

 

Every player goes downward as they get older.  That being said, buying him out at this stage accomplishes nothing.  We have can't get his production from anyone currently in the system.  No one who has the skill to produce like Franzen is going to sign here for less than $6 million a season and for a term that is as long as Franzen.  Then we will be in the same boat we are in today.  A veteran like Vanek that is going to demand more money to produce less and then keep producing less as he gets older.

 

So, in that situation, I would rather pay $4 to Franzen and just keep him going until the expiration of his contract.  By the end of it, the salary cap will be high enough where aging veterans will be getting paid the same as he is right now.

 

Holland made the right call here.  If he would have bought Franzen out, he would have gotten his balls cut off for sure.  Especially when he would have made a change to bring in a more expensive player who produced less.

 

Tootoo was the best choice to be bought out.  It shows that the Wings are a high class organization by assisting Tootoo at getting another shot in the NHL by releasing him early.  Other players will take note.




#2524850 Joe Thornton to the Wings?

Posted by Nightfall on 20 June 2014 - 12:22 PM

The sharks would probably want Nyquist, Jurco, and a pick for him.  I say no.




#2524126 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by Nightfall on 17 June 2014 - 07:27 AM

I am ok with a cheap 2 way contract.  I think he would provide good leadership for the kids in the Griffins organization for sure.




#2523017 Rutherford to Pens as GM....

Posted by Nightfall on 06 June 2014 - 12:30 PM

Blysma fired.

 

Pittsburgh treated him like crap.  They should have just let him go back when they fired Sherro.




#2522754 Jeff Blashill close to signing an extension... Babcock talks starting

Posted by Nightfall on 04 June 2014 - 03:21 PM

Great signing.  Hell, he works so well with the kids that I would be happy just seeing him down in Grand Rapids developing the players for the NHL.  Keep in mind the Griffins coaching had been so horrible at times where we had great talent but just couldn't apply that talent on the ice.  Now, we are starting to see the benefits to having a coach who can work with the kids and develop them the right way.  I hope they gave him a raise because he deserves it.




#2518613 Wings will buy out Tootoo, not Franzen.

Posted by Nightfall on 01 May 2014 - 07:29 AM

 

I see absolutely no problem with the bolded part, maybe he needs/wants a change of scenery and the Wings could use the money to bring in defensive and offensive stogap help. Win-win for both

 

I am still trying to figure out who we could get for Franzen's cap number that would be just as good if not better.  You know when Vanek signs with a team he is going to ask for $6 million a season at least.

 

If we are going to buy out Franzen, and put plugs into our team, I am sure that wouldn't go over well with the fanbase.




#2518261 Ken Holland Quotes (Apr 29th

Posted by Nightfall on 29 April 2014 - 07:45 PM

Actually, he costs 1.9 million, couldn't crack the lineup when absolutely everyone was out of the lineup, he cleared waivers 3 times and absolutely no one was interested in taking him for free.  

 

He wouldn't be free.  Someone would have had to pickup his contract.  Yea, I get what you are saying though.




#2517951 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by Nightfall on 28 April 2014 - 10:34 AM

 

If you'd told me a year ago that we'd basically be flipping Jarnkrok for nothing, I would've laughed. If you'd told me Holland would cite a logjam at center as a major motivating factor, I would've laughed even harder, knowing full well that even with a thin group of centermen, Babcock probably would've put him on the wing anyway.

 

Like I said, if it had been, say, Dave Nonis trading Jarnkrok for Legwand, we would've had a field day with it.

 

Right now, Jarnkrok is just a prospect and he did look good in 12 games with Nashville.  To call this trade a success or failure will be judged in a few years.  Either you have faith that he will be a guaranteed stud, or you think he will be somewhere in the middle, or you don't believe he will be good at all.  Right now, I believe that some Wings fans are going over the top by saying he is a future star in the league.  I don't know what his future is going to be so I won't speculate.

 

I will agree with you on this point.  If they don't retain Legwand, then it really was flipping him for nothing in which case I will be disappointed.  If Legwand signs, then it was a worthwhile trade.

 

BTW, who listens to what Pierre Mcguire has to say anyway?  When Mcguire gushes about anyone, it usually gets a lot of scorn from Wings fans.  ;)




#2517556 Grand Rapids Griffins - defend the cup

Posted by Nightfall on 27 April 2014 - 09:16 AM

Griffins are getting back Sheahan, Jurco, and Oulette for their playoff run.  I thought Glendenning was also a possibility, but oh well.

 

Go Griffins!