There were no responses to this because there are no answers. As you pointed out, if Jonathan were a 4th D-Man, this wouldn't be a discussion. Because he is playing on the top line, everyone is watching him much closer. I suppose you could bench him for Smith or keep Marchenko in the lineup for him, but I think we are making the team weaker with Jonathan out of the lineup.
Little Bert is working his ass off for a roster spot next season. So far, I love what he is bringing to the table with the Griffins.
As for the Griffins, despite losing on Saturday, they took the Midwest Division and are 2nd in the conference. I believe they are 3rd overall in the AHL. This team is going to make some noise in the playoffs with Blashill behind the bench.
He's as big of an idiot as Subban for threatening both the league and the Habs, especially in the post Bertuzzi-incident NHL.
Let the players handle it on the ice.
Agreed. An eye for an eye is so prevalent in our society. It wasn't like Subban was trying to injure him. The right call was made on the ice to give him 5 and a game. Now, if the Sens players want to do something in retaliation, they better be ready to pay the price for it. You know the refs will be watching and the penalties will be dealt out quickly.
The coaching staff should have just kept their mouths shut about it and just let the series play out. Yes, Cameron is upset that he lost one of his better players. I get it. When Draper had his face crushed against the boards by Claude, Bowman didn't promise retribution or threaten. He let his players handle it, and they did. It took a few months, but it did happen.
I'm honestly surprised they called a penalty on Smith rather than just have the faceoff.
I am not surprised to be honest. I was more surprised at the Ryan Clowe penalty that wasn't called when he reached over the boards and stopped the puck with his stick in the middle of the play. That was so blatant it isn't even funny. This incident was Smith was insignificant, but if I saw it, I would call it. Instant replay didn't show very much though. Would have been an interesting coaches challenge.
My definition and attitude towards fandom have changed through the years. Before, I always thought a fan was someone who supported the team through thick and thin. Now, I believe a fan is someone who enjoys watching said team. No more, no less.
Lets face facts here, we all want to say we are going to be fans of the Wings for life. Things change. Teams change. In another 20 years, this team may be the dead things again. Then most of us will go elsewhere and be fans of other teams. Some may stick around through the thin times, but I don't blame anyone who won't support a team that has a major downturn.
I know many Chicago fans that stopped supporting the Blackhawks because of what the previous owners were doing to the team. The blackouts, bad business decisions, and really just giving a big middle finger to the fans was a tough pill to swallow. Many just abandoned the Blackhawks and supported other teams. When the owner passed away and his son took over, he made major changes that brought the fans back.
These days, fandom isn't forever. People change. Sports clubs change. We all won't be Wings fans for life. Some of us may stick with the team, but I don't have an issue with people moving on from one team to support another.
Be a fan of whatever team you would like. Support the right team with your time and money. Thats what it all comes down to.
It's one thing if the Wings were a fringe playoff team all season, but they were'nt. They were challenging for the Conference. Then the past month and a half they became a disaster. It's to be expected that fans will feel this way.
If it was just this I would be ok with that. It is every little thing though and its just about all negative.
Holland is a joke.
Babcock should be fired.
On and on it goes. The record gets played so much here it is getting old. Part of the reason why I went elsewhere and why I will keep my visits sporadic.
There are more positive things being said about the Wings in opposing teams' subreddits. I love this forum, I think there are a lot of intelligent people and the moderation is on point but lately, it's been so negative. Do you guys realize that we at currently complaining that we don't like the WAY that our team clinched for the 24th year in a row? That's ridiculous and entitled and spoiled. This team is not "average at best" they are better than average as proven by their record this year. I have not been alive long enough to see them miss the playoffs. Think about that and then put yourselves in the shoes of literally ever other team and try to imagine behaving the same way as you are now.
It is 100% understandable to be critical of aspects of the team play, but to claim the sky is falling after every loss or bad goal is completely absurd. I'm sorry, I love you guys but it's disheartening to see so many "fans" express more hatred toward their own players than they do to the Hawks. We're better than this.
This is part of the reason why I went elsewhere. This place really has turned into Mos Eisley Spaceport of Wings fans.
I'm starting Mrazek against Carolina on Saturday, might be a must win for 3rd spot
Heck, I am starting Mrazek for the playoffs if its my choice. The kid is a winner at every level he has played at. If the Wings are going to crash and burn this year like 90% of LGW members think they are, may as well put Mrazek in so he can learn a tough lesson about the playoffs and come back stronger next season.
Two former NHL goaltenders on FSN disagree with you
Other analysts agree with me. So who is right here?
Answer: Who gives a crap.
The result is in the books. Keep bitching about the bad goal all you want and siding with analysts that you agree with. Jimmy Howard has a lot to play for in these playoffs. In his time here in Detroit, he has only advanced to the 2nd round 1 time. All other times have been 1st round exits. Now, its a "put up or shut up" year IMHO. I would focus more on that personally than a deflected shot that Jimmy would have stopped if it didn't go off of his own defenseman's stick 15 feet in front of the goal.
Yes they are, but a why is Howards five hole open anyways??
There are spaces all around a goalie that it could have went through. I suppose if it went upstairs on him you would have asked why he wasn't standing up. Either that or if it deflected far side you would have asked why he didn't come out more. Or if it deflected short side and beat him you would have asked why he wasn't flush to the post. So many possibilities.
Don't worry the rest of LGW will for you....unfortunately...
Yea, I know. The one nice thing about playing/reffing hockey for the last 20 years is that I never turned into a "armchair fan". I think a lot of fans critical of players, goaltending, or coaching would be a lot more understanding if they played the sport at least at the rec league level.