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You cant be serious? You think CSS exists to direct teams on who to scout? Wild First off, CSS exists because in the expansion era teams couldnt afford robust scouting depts, or travel. So they created a scouting service to help. Back then rankings were private, but for like the last 30+ years CSS makes all their rankings public, because teams no longer rely on them for scouting needs. They are literally just a central database for the public. Seondly, CSS employs 15 scouts plus part timers. The wings alone have 15 full time amatuer scouts including Draper and Yzerman. And teams start scouting players wayyyyy before CSS does. Teams are scouting players as young as 14 and developing working draft lists for drafts well in the future. If anything CSS and the league likely rely on all 32 teams to give them rough direction on who to scout each year. And rest assured teams omit their gems, steals, and other inside tracks. Lastly, CSS only ranks draft eligble players based on skills (shooting, skating, etc) and how well those skills would translate to the NHL. They do not have meetings with players, coaches, or managers, they do not evaluate things like character, attitudes, potential, growth, practice habits, fitness, playing big in big moments, readiness for pros, on and on and on. Teams know way beyond what you, or I, or analysts, or CSS does.

What do Craig Button or Bob McKenzie or anyone else have to do with Steve Yzerman and the Red WIngs org? Nothing. For all we know Yzerman had Danielson as the 5th best prospect in the draft, he slipped to 9, and didnt like any of the other players you mentioned. Why would he take a risk losing that player which he most def would of for another mid asset. This team has arguably the deepest farm system in the league but still lacks elite talent. We need quality not quantity. Yzerman shouldnt even consider trading back at this point. If anything package our 1st, 2nd, prospect to move up and get another top 10 pick.

My suspicion was theyre still trying to pry Markstrom out of CGY. Throwing their 1st onto the market to drive up interest may get CGY to finally bite, before Boston trades them Ullmark or something.

2 contradicting statements. As rare as it is Im not saying teams dont make trades in round 1 Im saying they dont gamble and trade back when the player they really like available at there pick. How could they possibly know who to spend the most time scouting? lol I dont know maybe based on there own scouting staff that put in Xx more hours watching these kids most 2-3 years leading up to there draft year. Teams dont base who theyr gonna scout on public rankings. Im sure they look at them just to make sure theres no major outliers in which case they might circle back and have another look but they def dont base any sort of opinion on players based on the public.

The phones thing with Columbus is regard territory. Just a total ****** move. He got fired for being a weirdo. Not for being a bad coach. He's the equivalent of a pedo in the hockey world.

Mazur reminds me a lot of Alex Killorn.

Agreed. And the hockey community is very tight knit. They all talk to each other, and their evaluations probably dont vary as wildly as some would expect. Seider being a shocker at #6 was a failure by the media community. He was rocketing up team rankings that spring by the sounds of things, because he was recognized late as a German in the DEL, a league that isnt scouted as heavily. Hakan Andersson has said he normally doesnt even leave Sweden till the 2nd half of the season to scout the rest of Europe. IMO It would be beyond foolish to say Yzerman was a genius for selecting Seider at 6. Smart, yes, but genius no. Plenty of other teams with just as capable scouts had witnessed him. And if my dumbazz was able to see a stud in the making, they were able to too. Seider woulda been off the board in the top 10 whether we selected him or not. Media pundits are a great way to get an idea of who to watch, but after that theyre amateurs same as you or I. And frankly, most scouts get it wrong too, so investing anything beyond a fleeting interest in public ranking is clearly regarded.

If had pasted as plain text you would have been none the wiser I had my benis surgically removed years ago for this exact reason. And to kill my sex drive so I could focus on posting.

I had Seider as the best Dman in the 2019 draft, but did not expect him to go to us at 6. McKenzie had him behind Byram, Broberg, and Soderstrom. Pronman had him behind all those guys plus York and Harley. And the bad rankings go on like that... Imagine if SY actually bought into amatuer media hype like Holland did with Zadina... I wanted Simashev last year. He went higher than Danielson but hes been pretty meh in the KHL since. The draft itself is the gamble.

You thought he went early at 9 because you saw him ranked 10-16??? BTW Pronman ranked him as top5 at #5. Recruit scouting at 7. ESPN at 7. Central scouting at 7 (more like 11). Dobber at 12. No one was shocked to see him go at 9. ASP was also ranked very high by some, sometimes in the top 5, but we got him at 17. Make your own list, and take your guy when hes available. Teams dont care what newsbros think. Only time trading down makes sense is if you have a Datsyuk type situation where you know nobody else has ever scouted him. Yzerman already said hes on the roster next season

Not sure if true, but that is what I am talking about. If you want Cholowski and you can rid yourself of a bad contract and still get him, that is what you do. Berggren needs to be on the roster this year. This team is lacking almost an entire 2nd line.

I generally agree with most of these, but I'd quibble with a few. I see 2nd pair upside with Gibson. I think Kasper plays in the top six no matter what, but maybe on the wing. Mazur will also be in the top six. And after watching Danielson's play in the playoffs I think he's on a steep upward trajectory. I think his floor is 2C.

I have a feeling Augustine will surpass Cossa.