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If the whole process disgusts you so much, why follow it so closely? It's like repeatedly drinking spoiled milk.

Why would Babs part ways with the Wings since we have Suter? Kypreos said that was a done deal.
He's just throwing more speculation on the fire in hopes of looking like he had a scoop.

With Ken Holland by his side. But it's just Babcock wanting this? He could've done it because Holland asked him to. He could've done it as a favor to Dreger. He could've done it because he really loves all this attention. No one has any actual idea what his motivations are, so who cares?
And no, that one sentence would have done little to end this crap. There was tons of media coverage and speculation before that TSN interview. If he said he doesn't negotiate publicly, it would just be the same endless speculation we're having now.
Honestly I'm surprised at the amount of coverage this whole thing is getting but as an American not living in the Detroit area, I didn't realize how big Canada's fixation on him would be after the Gold medal wins.

If the whole process disgusts you so much, why follow it so closely? It's like repeatedly drinking spoiled milk.

Why would Babs part ways with the Wings since we have Suter? Kypreos said that was a done deal.
He's just throwing more speculation on the fire in hopes of looking like he had a scoop.

Why would Babs part ways with the Wings since we have Suter? Kypreos said that was a done deal.
He's just throwing more speculation on the fire in hopes of looking like he had a scoop.

Right. Which makes little sense to me. You're blaming Babcock equally for what is 100% Holland's responsibility.
Of course the decisions aren't without input from others. Just like Babcock consults people in his decisions. But their disagreeing on rosters has been well documented over the years. And even if Babcock has Holland's ear and is lobbying for these things, it's still ultimately Holland's job to decide what's best for the team in those situations. If giving too much weight to his coach's opinions is causing him to make bad decisions, it's still absolutely Holland's fault.
And frankly if that's the case, that's even worse and Holland should probably go. He's there to run the team, not be a patsy for his coach.

Earned Holland a 5-year contract extension by getting Kenny's mediocre rosters into the playoffs year after year?

It would be weird to have a coach who's better than any defenseman on the team. Kind of like when Mario was Penguins GM.

No ill will toward Babcock if he goes. 10 yrs is an eternity in the same position in pro sports. He is a smart guy with a psychological bent. I have a feeling that he wants a different challenge. Taking on a new gig elsewhere would invigorate him, as well as give a fresh voice and ideas to the Wings. If someone is willing to pay him ~$5 million a year in the process, more power to him. Wings don't need to pay him anywhere near that much though IMO.

Earned Holland a 5-year contract extension by getting Kenny's mediocre rosters into the playoffs year after year?

Earned Holland a 5-year contract extension by getting Kenny's mediocre rosters into the playoffs year after year?

I understand he's "Canada's coach" or whatever but it's definitely been a bizarre process, particularly him and Kenny sitting side by side for the TSN interview (Though the tracking of the Sabre's owners plane is pretty insane too). If he does stay in Detroit, I'm trying to figure out what piece of information Babcock needed to finalize this decision that he didn't already have, unless this really was about using other offers as leverage to get his offer to market value and the money being there from Holland was polite talk.
It just puts an odd tone to things if he stays. I guess the positive outlook is that he saw what was out there and decided the Red Wings were still the best, but the flipside is, why didn't you believe that all along?
If it were about how the kids played this season, he already has that info. And Holland can't make any promises about landing free agents. Or if he does they don't really mean much because it's something that isn't under his total control, and he hasn't had a great track record lately anyway.
I guess there's the possibility Babcock wonders if he's losing the room, which he seemed to mention in the interview. But again, going to other teams doesn't answer that.
I don't really follow the Griffins but for those who want Blashill, isn't there a great chance it's very much the same style? I thought part of the reasons the kids could come up to the Wings so seamlessly (other than over-ripeness) is the similarity of the systems.

I don't disagree. I wasn't so much arguing that teams throwing money around was a sound strategy from a hockey perspective, but that it can still be from an ownership perspective. And they definitely have limited shelf life if the team still isn't winning, though that shelf life can still last several seasons. I think the Suter and Parise signing has handicapped the Wild, but it's also gotten then them into the playoffs three years in a row, twice into the second round. From an owner's perspective I'm guessing that's paying off financially.
Basically I'm just saying "win when it matters" doesn't necessarily mean you have to win the Stanley Cup for it to be a financial success.
As for Toronto, who the hell knows how that will go. I'm still surprised they fired Carlyle. I'm sure Babcock would be paid extremely well to go there, and I can kinda understand the dream of turning that franchise around, but you have to believe you'll have the support you need and will be put in a position to succeed. I don't think you can say that about the Leafs organization, unless Shanny has some master plan he's not revealed yet.

Thank goodness for Patrick Kane. Sometimes I feel icky rooting for Corey Perry. Kane is the antidote.

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#RedWings announce trophy awarded to to NHL Prospect Tournament champion renamed Matthew Wuest Memorial Cup, after late CapGeek developer.

We are so lucky to be fans of likely the classiest organization in sports!

Hate the Ducks, but I hate Chicago more. Have to root for the Ducks to pull this one off. It hurts either way though.

Well after seeing how poorly the Canadiens played in that last game I feel a lot better about our team effort against Tampa
Man the clock is ticking on this team
Mr. I needs to get Babs signed, get him and pav and hank some help, get the team in the new arena and win one more cup
It seems like we have been 2 pieces short of a cup for a few years now except last year when we struggled so much, and notwithstanding the drop off this year
* prays for manna and a cup to put it in *

I know on paper Phaneuf makes a fair amount of sense. I've just never liked the guy.
He's one of those players for me where my dislike is based mostly on a gut feeling and not anything rational. That he's somehow like a Jack Johnson. A talented guy who on paper should be great, but when you put him in a defense they somehow get worse (thought I think that's changed somewhat for Johnson in Columbus).

The funniest part was Stamkos tossing Prusts's elbow pad to a fan in the stands.
http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2015/5/3/8541285/watch-steven-stamkos-toss-brandon-prusts-elbow-pad-into-the-stands
There's a gif of it out there on the internets but I can't get it to work here. Hopefully someone smarter than me will (there should be plenty of qualified candidates).

Apparently you don't.
Most people in this thread aren't mad and aren't arguing that Devellano's comments are inaccurate.

Nice to see Mantha responding a lot more thoughtfully than Jimmy D did.
I can imagine Holland facepalming when he heard Devellano's comments.

For me it's not that it might have hurt Mantha's feelings. When the coach does it, it's one thing. It's usually a calculated move. This just seems so random. Especially because he makes it sound like the Wings have already given up on the kid.
I don't really follow the prospects that closely but has Mantha been benched, or even criticized publicly by anyone before this? For the Senior VP of the NHL club to call out a minor league player is pretty much going nuclear. And isn't something I can ever remember the Wings doing ever before. It's just odd, which makes me think it was Devellano running his mouth more than a plan to light a fire under the kid.

Nice to see Mantha responding a lot more thoughtfully than Jimmy D did.
I can imagine Holland facepalming when he heard Devellano's comments.

Nice to see Mantha responding a lot more thoughtfully than Jimmy D did.
I can imagine Holland facepalming when he heard Devellano's comments.