Vancouver Wings Fan 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 I think I'll be interesting to see how Bert plays with the Flames this go around.....unfortunatley he has never once had success against them in his past performances, particularily in the playoffs. I can't wait to see what his imact will be...positive or negative....it will be clear to see as we have Game 1 without him to compare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redeyedwings 2 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 I wasn't suggesting that we let Bert languish on the bench, or even that he HAS to sit in game two. But I do think that -- especially with concussion symptoms -- a couple of extra days never hurt. That, couple with the fact that pretty much EVERY forward on our team contributed in the last game (I dunno why all you guys are saying 'sit Sammy' I thought he was strong on the puck for most of the night) gives the Wings a chance to err on the side of caution and make sure Bert is fully healthy so that he can really hit without worry. But yeah, I made the topic fully realizing that it's not likely to hapen -- if only because Bert probably wants to get out there as much as anyone, injured or not. But I still don't know who I'd take out of the lineup to replace him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 Nope, put him in. The way Flip played, they won't consider sitting him. It's b/w Sammy and Hudler and I have a feeling that though Hudler played well too, they might go with Sammy simply cuz he's bigger (not that he plays big) and since he's a right-handed shot on the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 I agree that sitting Bertuzzi is not the wisest idea, especially when you have a Samuelsson like player out there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 I wasn't suggesting that we let Bert languish on the bench, or even that he HAS to sit in game two. But I do think that -- especially with concussion symptoms -- a couple of extra days never hurt. That, couple with the fact that pretty much EVERY forward on our team contributed in the last game (I dunno why all you guys are saying 'sit Sammy' I thought he was strong on the puck for most of the night) gives the Wings a chance to err on the side of caution and make sure Bert is fully healthy so that he can really hit without worry. But yeah, I made the topic fully realizing that it's not likely to hapen -- if only because Bert probably wants to get out there as much as anyone, injured or not. But I still don't know who I'd take out of the lineup to replace him... I don't think that his concussion was really that bad, he probably could have played in game one, just didn't have clearence, I think after being out as long as he was letting him sit is the worst thing we could do. IMO anyways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 if you call a success Sammy throwing a series of identical 60ft shots from clear lane, and other than that giving no hustle and hence virtually neutralizing Lazy and he sucks's line - fine. I'm calling it a disaster which leaves Wings a 3-line deep team with the 2nd scoring line being a dummy. with Bert this line was on fire and they brought B or even A game. I sure as hell want Bertuzzi back there and adding depth to the team and creating scoring opportunities. Sammy back to the bench and keep it warm while those who care are on the ice. or let him handle the gatorade bottles I agree that sitting Bertuzzi is not the wisest idea, especially when you have a Samuelsson like player out there sitting Bertuzzi for 1/3 of playoff games spares Ken Holland draft picks, which are of huge importance for the franchise right now and it also leaves us valuable asset and an ace we could play in the wanning moment to get the best of other teams we face. and finally, his health is still some issue and it's good to give him rest when possible if for no other reasons, those above are quite legit in my eyes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 I agree that giving Bertuzzi rest is a good thing in one sense, but I also believe that even at 60% he is way more effective than Samuelsson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteLightning91 105 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/weblog/index...es/2007_04.html Bertuzzi is out for Game 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 God damnit I want him in the lineup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/weblog/index...es/2007_04.html Bertuzzi is out for Game 2 That sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 god, well I guess we don't have much of a choice for line ups tomarrow anyways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotzman 29 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/weblog/index...es/2007_04.html Bertuzzi is out for Game 2 Got your wish... DAMN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VladyIBELIEVE16 257 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 Well this is all a MOO point now (quoting Joey from friends) MOOT POINT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 hmmmmmm, OP inside information?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 That, couple with the fact that pretty much EVERY forward on our team contributed in the last game (I dunno why all you guys are saying 'sit Sammy' I thought he was strong on the puck for most of the night) gives the Wings a chance to err on the side of caution and make sure Bert is fully healthy so that he can really hit without worry. The point is moot now, but I'd like to point out that Lang's line was far and away our worst line yesterday, and it sure wasn't Calder's fault. It doesn't matter if it was Lang's fault, because he's there no matter what. Sammy's expendable. The worst Bert can do is maintain the status quo, except be huge and mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 The point is moot now, but I'd like to point out that Lang's line was far and away our worst line yesterday, and it sure wasn't Calder's fault. It doesn't matter if it was Lang's fault, because he's there no matter what. Sammy's expendable. The worst Bert can do is maintain the status quo, except be huge and mean. And , if Bert can make a whole lot of room , maybe when Langs give away the puck , Todd will be clearing house so Lang can go grab it and make a play that isnt useless. Too abd Bertuzzis out and were going to have to see Lang and Sammy fumbling and giving away the puck. I dont get Babs sometimes , Why not throw Cleary on the calder and lang line , He had 7 shots on goal in game 1 playing with Draper and Maltby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 When Bertuzzi is ready he is gonna play. Unfortunately, Sammy isn't likely to sit - it's gonna be Huds. Either way, it's nice to see ALL guys on our squad bumping and crashing with Calgary. Tomorrow we'll be able to gauge even better just exactly where we're at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icteria virens 11 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 This thread is stupid, Bert was injured for the first game . Against a tough team like the Flames he's got to play , he's one of our more physical player's and potentially one of our better player's . I agree, he's exac. the type of player we need against the Flames and exac. the type of player this team needed before the deadline. If he's healthy there's no reason to sit him - at all. Keep Huds and sit Sammy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted April 15, 2007 Everybody wants to know who's going to sit tomorrow so Bertuzzi can come back. Why can't Babcock just say to Hudler, Fillpula, Clearly, etc., 'listen, we won 4-1 with you guys, and as long as we keep getting that kind of effort and result, I'm not going to sit you for Bertuzzi.' I like Bertuzzi, and obviously you can't sit him for long if he's fully healthy, but wouldn't this be a great way to get another great game from Hudler and the other young guys? And can you really argue with the result of game one? I don't want to sit Hudler. Or Cleary. I probably wouldn't mind sitting Lang, but that's not really an option. And since Bert has concussion-like symptoms, wouldn't it be kind of good to get him an extra couple of days rest? You'd hate to see him rush back still a little woozy a la Eric Lindros ... And if things turn bad, we'd have one hell of an ace in the hole to pull out in Calgary, and he'd be fired up to earn his ice time and place in the lineup back. So ... I say keep the lineup as it is until we lose, or just squeek out a game we deserved to lose. Why screw around with guys who were absolutely dominating in game one? DIscuss. You must be joking!!!!???? NONSENSE!!! We need Bert - I don't know what's going on in Bab's head - Flames are going to be hungry today... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zetterbergfuturemvp 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2007 2-0 series lead .........regehr doesnt look to good for calgary ( didn't finish the game ) were playing awesome now , i think we can afford , and should let bertuzzi miss another game and let him recover and get ready for game 4 , regardless of what happens in game 3 ........what do you guys think ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted April 15, 2007 If Sammy sits, absolutely. Mike would be the dumbest motherf***er on the planet to split up Franzen-Flip-Hudler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluedevils_13 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2007 (edited) Ya I'm startimg to feel that way too, but if we can get Bert in for Sammy who has been playing sub par thats not a bad trade off. Bert can really help us win game 3 on the road , and if we win game 3 and take a 3-0 series lead against the Flames who are one of the toughest teams and have arguably the best goalie in the West.....that's just huge. Edited April 15, 2007 by Bluedevils_13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsWingsWings 3 Report post Posted April 15, 2007 If Sammy sits, absolutely. Mike would be the dumbest motherf***er on the planet to split up Franzen-Flip-Hudler. Well said... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakChamber 8 Report post Posted April 15, 2007 Eventually you have to get Bert back in the line up. I'd say it would be better to get him back in sooner rather than later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vancouver Wings Fan 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2007 2-0 series lead .........regehr doesnt look to good for calgary ( didn't finish the game ) were playing awesome now , i think we can afford , and should let bertuzzi miss another game and let him recover and get ready for game 4 , regardless of what happens in game 3 ........what do you guys think ?? Agreed..... Why make Coke Classic when regular Coke is just fine!! Don't change a winning formula!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites