Should the Wings target UFA-to-be Giguere?

[Xduff83X 0]

i know giggy wouldnt sign w/ detroit for two reasons, one as longs as babs is the coach, he wont sign, and 2 money issues... not gunna happen sorry bros.

izzy24 lol i was thinking the exact same thing when i started reading this post. lol

[Duckette 0]

I find it interesting that every offseason, Jiggy is going just about everywhere, but yet he's the only goalie that Anaheim has every really had. He'll stay. Everyone just likes to imagine he's going to leave. It's all an illusion!

[Manoir 70]

I am close friends with Tampa's GM

I've always wanted to know someone who has contact with an NHL GM. Although I don't know who you are, I'm going to start telling people I know someone who knows Tampa's GM.

[Kp-Wings 3]

I find it interesting that every offseason, Jiggy is going just about everywhere, but yet he's the only goalie that Anaheim has every really had. He'll stay. Everyone just likes to imagine he's going to leave. It's all an illusion!

Apparently you don't think much of Guy Hebert or Mikhail Shtalenkov.

Hebert was truly the face of that team back in the 1990's. You can say what you want about Selanne or Kariya, but I truly consider him the face of the Ducks back then. It's only because the Ducks stunk pretty badly is the only reason he didn't get more recognition. He was a great goalie.

[Duckette 0]

I've always wanted to know someone who has contact with an NHL GM. Although I don't know who you are, I'm going to start telling people I know someone who knows Tampa's GM.

You're welcome to do so. But the GM is just a normal human being With power over of about 25 NHL players And I'm not a special person either, just a normal teenager

Apparently you don't think much of Guy Hebert or Mikhail Shtalenkov.

Hebert was truly the face of that team back in the 1990's. You can say what you want about Selanne or Kariya, but I truly consider him the face of the Ducks back then. It's only because the Ducks stunk pretty badly is the only reason he didn't get more recognition. He was a great goalie.

That's not what I meant at all. I knew someone was going to bring this up. Neither Hebert nor Shtalenkov were around as long as Jiggy or as successful. Now, they're pre-my era. I was only a few years old when they were in net and didn't become a fan until '03. Jiggy has been a solid fall back guy through-out the years. Maybe that makes a little more sense....

[Elshupacabra 0]

If Detroit signed Jiggy, we would have to deal with everybody coming on here and saying things like: "He has the biggest pads in the league" and they would post pictures of him with mattresses on his legs...

Edited May 26, 2007 by Elshupacabra

[BringHomeTheCup! 0]

First, for those of you who think Philly would part with Biron, HUH?!?! They just traded for him, and signed him to an extension, why would they want to move him? That doesn't make sense.

Secong, for those of you who say Giggy will re-sign with the Ducks for about $4-5, I highly doubt that. His market value will be about $6-7, he will get pretty close to that.

Finally, with the roster needs that Kenny has, there is no way he can afford to spend much mroe than $2.5-3 on any single player.

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

Seems like a week ago Giguere sucked, and the only reason he ever stopped a shot was his giant pads, his stats are inflated by playing behind two Norris trophy candidates and so on...

Now all of a sudden he's who everyone would want?

Oh yeah, and he can't move side-to-side, and he's fat and unathletic...

WELCOME TO THE BOARDS

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who is the second number 1? Holland has already said J Ho is spending another year in GR.. if Ozzie were still a #1 he would be starting somewhere else..

You know I'm talking about Ozzie...don't be a smart ass. Ozzie would be #1 on another team. He likes it here, then fine, he's willing to do what it takes to be on the team, but he could be #1. If we got Giggy and kept Hasek then technically we'd have 2 #1's again.

Is Hasek going to be backup? Is Giggy...not for 6 million....

Hasek is the best we can possibly get...and he is cheap. It would be STUPID to change that if we can in anyway keep Hasek. Hasek or Ozzie might get injured...but so could any goalie...it's all just speculation....

[TNBT 3]

Truth is we got it good in goal. Ozzie may not be a superstar but he can be. hes shown it. right now we have it so good. ozzie coast us really nothing and he can be one of the best in the nhl he just needs to play a bunch of games to get going. having howard as his back up playing like 25 or so will be just what he needs to bring him up. just like how it was with ozzie and vernon. ozzie will be howards vernon. 2 great goalies that coast us nothng. everyone needs to calm down and realize how many teams go it way worse.

I tend to agree with this idea.

[canadienhater 0]

Which is why the Sharks may be willing to unload him, to try and get something for him before he walks after the season. He would be my #1 choice. That being said, I don't think the Wings will spend any big amount of money for a goalie...I just don't see it happening.

i would trade for him let him play out his one year deal if it works out we can sign him to a new deal if it does not we have howard waiting in the wings no pun intended

I feel certain you're right. I don't want Ozzie to go anywhere. As for the rest and who else we can get, who else would be better... I think I will wait and see what Dom says.

And then this discussion can start all over again.

osgod is a backup anyone who thinks otherwise needs to pee in the cup

[RedRockit 0]

osgod is a backup anyone who thinks otherwise needs to pee in the cup

Your Freudian slip is showing.

And this cup you speak of, would that be the '98 Stanley Cup for which Ozzie backed us in net?

[Guest ZDH]

The '98 Cup Final was 9 years ago guys. Osgood is a back-up on the Wings. Holland even said so himself when he signed him. He may be able to start somewhere else but in Detroit he is the back-up goalie.

[RedRockit 0]

The '98 Cup Final was 9 years ago guys. Osgood is a back-up on the Wings. Holland even said so himself when he signed him. He may be able to start somewhere else but in Detroit he is the back-up goalie.

Well, yes and no. When he first came back, he was competing with Manny for #1, but The Ozzman Groineth'd and then re-groineth'd in the playoffs. When he RE-signed the next season, we had snagged Dom and yesindeedyou'reright, he was intended for the backup slot. Why not? He was coming back from bigtime injury, we got him cheap, we had the best goalie ever for #1.

But I'd have as much faith in Ozzie at #1, should Dom retire, as I would have in most other goalies, especially considering no acquired goalie would work for peanuts and love as Ozzie is. I'd rather spend the salary $$ on other areas that need addressing (goal scorer, maybe also a big mean hitman for the next Duck game... heh)

Furthermore, I'd have as much faith in Ozzie at #1 again as I did in '98, which is to say: sometimes a whole lotta faith, sometimes covering my eyes in horror...

[WingsWingsWings 3]

I think Giggles would do really well here on the Wings, but I have to agree with everybody else that is mentioning what we would have to give up ($$$) to get him. I mean, with the salary cap, we need to focus on players that can work for the long term. I have to say that I believe that our long term is going to be Osgood and Howard. Next year Hasek might come back (I'd love to see that), then after next season bring Howard up. If Hasek goes out with a injury part way through the season, then we bring up Howard then. It is the plan I originally thought we would have to use this season, but Hasek kinda showed that up.

I think we are set in goal right now. Hasek-Osgood-Howard-Liv as the foodchain makes me feel quite good for the time being.

How about we take the money we would have spent on Giggles and go pick up some more forwards (snipers, strength, etc.).

So, in a not-so-short post, I declare, "SAY NO TO GIGUERE!!"

[eva unit zero 271]

Go out and pick up a top 5 or 10 keeper (Giggy, Toskala, Biron)/quote]

Hmm....

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Giguere is top 5 or 10, yes. And he will be paid like it.

The other two? Not so much. Toskala is talented, not top 5-10, but would probably be the ideal acquisition if he could be had without giving up anything of value, because he's capable of starting but makes backup money (like Oz and Dom this year) so there's low risk and high payoff. Problem is, Toskala has known value and a signed contract, so he would cost a decent amount in assets.

Biron is a decent goalie. But he's in the bottom half of NHL starters, nowhere near the top 5 or 10 goalies. There were several backups this season--among them Osgood, Bryzgalov, and Toskala--who are better goaltenders that also make less.

But he has a multi-million dollar contract, Philly likes him, and he would not be a good fit in Detroit:

Biron is in his prime right now, and is no better than Osgood, who costs significantly less. It would be foolish of the Wings to give up assets to acquire him when the long term plan has Jimmy Howard starting in two or three years. Osgood is more than capable of filling the gap until then--there's no reason to sell the farm or gut the roster to get a temporary stopgap who is NOT AN UPGRADE.

The simple way of looking at this:

The Wings team on the ice in the conference finals was missing two of its top four defensemen. If the Wings give 7m to Giguere instead of <2m to Hasek or another tender, there's a good chance our top six defensemen next season are Lidstrom, Kronwall, Chelios, Lebda, Lilja, and Kindl or Quincey.

The Wings were clearly missing Schneider during the Anaheim series. Markov was great the entire playoff run. I would rather have those two on the team with Osgood in net than replace them with rookies and have Giguere.

[Lou_Siffer 1]

Remember when everyone was knocking Giguere and his degenerative hips?

I like Giguere alot, but Hasek has to be plan A.

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But how would we make fun of Giggy's pads if he were on our team?

[glasgowcelticwing 18]

But how would we make fun of Giggy's pads if he were on our team?

I'm sure we would still manage to sneek in insult's if he was playing really crappy.

[Lou_Siffer 1]

You know, now that i think about it, the fact that the Joe would constantly play "gettin' Jiggy with it" is reason enough to not want him here.

I dont think i can take another cheesy played out song.

[Offsides 21]

You know, now that i think about it, the fact that the Joe would constantly play "gettin' Jiggy with it" is reason enough to not want him here.

I dont think i can take another cheesy played out song.

^quote of the week

[Kp-Wings 3]

But how would we make fun of Giggy's pads if he were on our team?

Don't worry. I'd still manage.

[DaKineMaui 8]

But how would we make fun of Giggy's pads if he were on our team?

Why wait?

I heard the Wings did target Giggy, and shot him an offer of X-million for X amount of years - but it bounced off his huge fu*(&^ng pads.

sry

[OsGOD 3]

If Detroit signed Jiggy, we would have to deal with everybody coming on here and saying things like: "He has the biggest pads in the league" and they would post pictures of him with mattresses on his legs...

And we would STILL LOSE... because GOALTENDING is NOT THE PROBLEM... Hello DETROIT!

[puckloo39 5,686]

And we would STILL LOSE... because GOALTENDING is NOT THE PROBLEM... Hello DETROIT!

boy, howdy, is that ever the truth!!! If the Wings get Giggy in the future and can figure out a way to justify that salary, I could live with JSG as a Wing. Seems like a decent guy, him and his big pads and all.

But, I agree with Osgod, that a new goalie on't be the solution in Detroit. We need a PP worse than we need anything else, and scoring accumen.

Why wait?

I heard the Wings did target Giggy, and shot him an offer of X-million for X amount of years - but it bounced off his huge fu*(&^ng pads.

sry

edit: I should have said "another" new goalie in Detroit. Stick with the old man one more year, everyone wants him back except a few malcontents and haters...

Edited May 27, 2007 by puckloo39