OsGOD 3 Report post Posted November 21, 2007 (edited) If it weren't for the fact that Chris Osgood is Hasek's backup, would you even care? Read a bit further down... Dom and I have a history of unliking... Just was a coinicidence he came here and Ozzie was here. I have been quiet about Dom... Content really with my dislike but to dangle this tread in front of me like a carrot in front of a rabbit... So Not Fair! I don't like Dom. Not becuase of anything he did or didn't do to/for the beloved wings... Hell he hasn't been around here long enough to care about him in that regard. Basically... He just don't impress me much. Impresses others no less cause the stoopid humans feel his 85.9 Sv% is ALL-STAR worthy... but he don't impress me at all. It would be SO FAKE to say YAY DOM... GO DOM! I haven't YET in his career... why start at the end of it. Edited November 21, 2007 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
isbister 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 I think Ozzy is playing some of his best net right now. Hasek never has been a fast starter, but normally gets her goin about mid season. The question is, who do you feel most comfortable with between the pipes come playoff time? I have never been an Osgood fan, but he has quickly shut me up this year. IMO Hasek wasn't "The Dom" last year in the playoffs, and I think if Ozzy keeps her goin he'll get a chance to put some pressure on Babs for that #1 spot. Your thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan40 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 I think Haseks age is finally catching up to him...My vote is Ozzy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amberlynn25 9 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 Ozzie. i think the tables are going to turn relaly soon. Babs just hasn't realised it yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 I vote for both of them. Dom got a bad start, some bad games... he will be fine. Ozzie's been great, doing exactly what was needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 I'll answer your question come playoff time.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 <---- I defer to my AVATAR and SIGNATURE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 Bottom line is, even if Hasek improves to play as well as last year, if Osgood keeps playing like this and even improving, then he still ought to be starting in the playoffs. If they go even down the stretch and Osgood keeps this up and doesn't start, I'll be surprised. Hasek or not, I think Babcock knows the score but he knows how to keep everyone happy in the meantime. Osgood's really looking like the real deal this year. The numbers don't lie. League leader in GAA and 4th in save percentage. What's Hasek's save percentage again? Oh yeah, last. I'm not a huge stats guy, but come on. Hasek's got a helluva lot of work to do if he expects to start. What's said in the press is all well now, but there ain't no way they're starting a marginally better Hasek over Osgood the way things are going. We'll just watch it play out. I think tonight's going to be a big game for Hasek. If he plays like garbage again, you've really gotta wonder. "It's early" only lasts so long. We keep extending it...it's a big game if you ask me. He's had time now to show SOME improvement and he hasn't. It just seems to have gotten worse defensive breakdowns or not. With Osgood coming off a shutout the night before and so many rough games in a row, I just think tonight could be a defining sort of game for where things will head. I vote for both of them. Dom got a bad start, some bad games... he will be fine. Ozzie's been great, doing exactly what was needed. Then tell him to get up off his ass and do SOMETHING, ANYTHING to prove it. Thus far, there hasn't been even a hint. That's the problem. I'm all for him playing well if he can, but take off the "fan-girl" glasses and get real. This is beyond a slow start or a slump. He's just been awful; bad defense or not. Believe it or not, 43 might just finally have caught up with him. Maybe he's just lost a millesecond of reaction time, but in this league, that can be enough. Combine that with his knack for not playing well when facing so few shots (and the Wings knack for allowing so few shots) and you've got an ugly situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWings Gone Wild 6 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 Personally, I think I've answered this question in about 5 other threads started for this topic. I'm tired of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted November 22, 2007 currently its osgood hes doing his job , but i do believe hasek will bounce back and be our starter in the playoffs unless he gets injured ( knock on wood) everyone thought he was done last season as well , hes sure off to a bad start but hes gonna bounce back , he's not the dominator for no reason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 Personally, I think I've answered this question in about 5 other threads started for this topic. I'm tired of it. agreed. maybe the mods should pin this one and make an Ultimate Goalie Thread to keep all of it in here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 agreed. maybe the mods should pin this one and make an Ultimate Goalie Thread to keep all of it in here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 but everyone is having so much fun turning everything into a bash-Hasek thread regardless of the actual topic. It's very creative! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 but everyone is having so much fun turning everything into a bash-Hasek thread regardless of the actual topic. It's very creative! Wait until Osgood has a less than stellar performance. This place will erupt. It comes with being the starting goaltender. Dom apparently is still the starter, so it comes with the territory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) Its not really us bashing hasek.. he is doing it to himself... being all 85.9% and all and a starter.. I am sorry he should know better. Or at least conceed the fact that is stats belong in the AHL. Edited November 22, 2007 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 Hasek needs to play the role Ozzie has been playing. a role reversal should be put in effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 Debate away peeps. Facts.. Only facts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 Sorta getting tired of the "he faced breakaways" arguement. Part of the job of being a goaltender is stopping breakaways. I've played some junior hockey and it's not that hard as long as you make the shooter make the first move. Unfortunately for Dom he really has no style that you would or can teach, it's simply his own, and it just happens to REALLY blow at breakaways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 For some reason I always thought Hasek was taller than 5'11'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 Debate away peeps. Facts.. Only facts... There's not much to discuss, really.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redmathew 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 there is no need for a debate this early!!!!!! The debate should ONLY come up when the playoffs start. Enough said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiribulus 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) I don't know why it has to be Hasek bashing. Osgood is tending better goal and has all year so far. There is merit to the argument that our D has kept his action to a minimum, but on the other hand he's come up big when we needed him and hasn't given up many soft goals. I hate to say it, but I find myself agreeing with somebody who said that it appears that age is catching up with Dom. That doesn't mean he blows or won't up his play as the year progresses, but he just doesn't seem the same while Osgood is playing at the top of his game. A game better than the one he brought to a championship run in 98 in my opinion. Osgood might not be able to carry a team, but given good company he shines and is showing that. I say until given a good reason why change. The ol "if it ain't broke" thing. Edited November 22, 2007 by Tiribulus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotvm 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 numbers dont tell the whole story. i think it comes down to how well the team is playing infront of the goalie. right now for some reason we have been hanging hasek out to dry while playing stellar in front of ozzie. i have no doubt that if our D played the same every night that hasek would have some pretty damn good stats to. i mean ozzie only had to make 12 saves last night while Dom faced over 30 against chicago. somethings wrong with that. i think they are both fantastic goalies but if things dont change as far as defensive play then id stick with ozzie. and i agree 100% that tonight is a huge game for dom as far as public opinion goes. but at the end of the day, having to make the decision between a hot goalie and a future hall of famer isnt a bad problem to have. some teams dont even have 1 good goalie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringHomeTheCup! 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earthhuman 8 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 numbers dont tell the whole story. i think it comes down to how well the team is playing infront of the goalie. right now for some reason we have been hanging hasek out to dry while playing stellar in front of ozzie. i have no doubt that if our D played the same every night that hasek would have some pretty damn good stats to. i mean ozzie only had to make 12 saves last night while Dom faced over 30 against chicago. somethings wrong with that. i think they are both fantastic goalies but if things dont change as far as defensive play then id stick with ozzie. and i agree 100% that tonight is a huge game for dom as far as public opinion goes. but at the end of the day, having to make the decision between a hot goalie and a future hall of famer isnt a bad problem to have. some teams dont even have 1 good goalie Right now I would say we have 1 good goalie. That's a pretty average situation. Debate away peeps. Facts.. Only facts... Hasek is about 10 pounds off of his playing weight. There's that fraction of a second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
