Take your shots at the Pad

[RainingBlood 8]

Anders Eriksson??

Now that's comedy.

I'll refrain from Lilja-bashing, thanks. One point lost and you got people wishing for him to be sucked into a jet engine? Completely inappropriate. Some of you really oughta grow up, maybe step back from the Wings for a week, re-evaluate some priorities.

when did I ever say I wanted Lilja to be sucked inot a jet engine. I did say I want babcock to leave him stranded on a road trip. I have my priorities in order. I just calls em as I see's em, and I see's that Lilja is no good, and should be shoveling snow in Colorado, or plugging up some tires at Belle Tire.

[RainingBlood 8]

Lang is lazy and he sucks!

No I think that title goes to Lilja now. It was a nice lob, too bad it went over the glass.

[Salviaman 104]

No I think that title goes to Lilja now. It was a nice lob, too bad it went over the glass.

Oh, my bad. I thought this was a year ago and Lang was still on the team. Times have changed though, but Lilja sure hasn't!

[betterREDthandead 58]

when did I ever say I wanted Lilja to be sucked inot a jet engine. I did say I want babcock to leave him stranded on a road trip. I have my priorities in order. I just calls em as I see's em, and I see's that Lilja is no good, and should be shoveling snow in Colorado, or plugging up some tires at Belle Tire.

Wasn't you who said it.

[Mudvayneowns91 0]

Wasn't you who said it.

This was the closest thing I could find to what you meant not sure if it this was what you meant though.

I hope he falls down the airplane stairs..... then is so unlucky to be sucked up into the wings and ......... well you get the picture

Edited February 27, 2008 by Mudvayneowns91

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Lilja's biggest problem is between the ears.

I cannot get over the constant boneheaded plays he makes.

I can understand as a 3rd pairing a Dman may not be the best skater, might not have the greatest slapshot, hell, might even get beat to the outside a lot, but those aren't why he is infuriating. Lilja continues to make errors in what should be basic plays that he's been through thousands of times.

I don't get it.

[Sevumar 0]

Lilja's biggest problem is between the ears.

I cannot get over the constant boneheaded plays he makes.

To me, the worst part is he knew he was messing up. Every time the camera showed his face, he looked positively homicidal. Even so, I think Lilja gets a bit more heat here than he deserves.

[umredwing11 2]

This topic is exactly what I needed. Before the game, I was talking about Ericsson. I've been soo impressed with his play (and he just finished his third NHL game) that I don't understand why there is so much damn emphasis placed on the importance of resigning Lilja. Okay, I know Ericsson makes mistakes, as seen with getting caught flat-footed on one of the Oiler goals today. But he didn't take a hattrick of penalties, one leading directly to a tie and later loss of the game. I know Lilja feels bad when his stick consistently breaks, or when he takes stupid ass penalties, but if you don't have it, you don't have it. I say, ride him (or bench him) through the playoffs, but at the end of the season say goodbye and lets give Ericsson a shot.

Edited February 27, 2008 by umredwing11

[theman19 47]

seeing ericson, meech and quincy out there shows me there is ZERO and i do mean ZERO need on this team for lilja.

He doesn't use his body

He has an awful shot

He fights maybe twice a year

and oh yeah,..once every three months he directly attributes to losing a hockey game.

He needs to go to make room for someone else.

[eva unit zero 271]

Anders Eriksson??

Now that's comedy.

I'll refrain from Lilja-bashing, thanks. One point lost and you got people wishing for him to be sucked into a jet engine? Completely inappropriate. Some of you really oughta grow up, maybe step back from the Wings for a week, re-evaluate some priorities.

I'd rather have Eriksson than Lilja. Eriksson never lived up to the "Next Lidstrom" hype that was based mostly on his being a two-way Swedish defenseman drafted by the Wings and not an actual appraisal of his talent, but across his career he has pretty regularly been a dependable second pairing defenseman. On more than one team he has been the best blueliner and anchored the defense. Lilja has never been anywhere near that kind of performance.

[shannyfan1414 0]

This topic is exactly what I needed. Before the game, I was talking about Ericsson. I've been soo impressed with his play (and he just finished his third NHL game) that I don't understand why there is so much damn emphasis placed on the importance of resigning Lilja. Okay, I know Ericsson makes mistakes, as seen with getting caught flat-footed on one of the Oiler goals today. But he didn't take a hattrick of penalties, one leading directly to a tie and later loss of the game. I know Lilja feels bad when his stick consistently breaks, or when he takes stupid ass penalties, but if you don't have it, you don't have it. I say, ride him (or bench him) through the playoffs, but at the end of the season say goodbye and lets give Ericsson a shot.

I have to agree that I have been very impressed by our young Dmen that have been called up. They seem to move the puck well, and skate better then Lillypad. I know that is not to tough to accomplish.

I just hope that Kenny sees this and realizes that Lillypad has very little upside to him at this point. Yes the young guys have made a couple of mistakes in the last few games, but they are young and have not played very many games in the NHL. Lilja still makes bonehead mistakes and he is considered a veteran.

There is no excuse for his continued s***ty play.

[DaKineMaui 8]

Your post is dripping with sarcasm. Please be careful so as not to short out your keyboard.

::::Rinsing keyboard with garden hose:::::

Oh shi.....thanks a lo.................

[DaKineMaui 8]

Anders Eriksson??

Now that's comedy.

One point lost and you got people wishing for him to be sucked into a jet engine? Completely inappropriate.

I think he'd miss the engine.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Well stop swinging off a Lilja's nutsack and take off the rose colored glasses. He blows, I rather have ::cough:: Anders Eriksson, or Mathieu Dandenault back then watch Lilja fumble around out there.

Where, anywhere in this thread have I been on Lilja's "business"? Show me and quote me on it.

Oh wait, that's right, I was never on Lilja's "business" in this thread.

Next time don't put words in my mouth to make yourself sound like an idiot. Thank you.

Edited February 27, 2008 by SouthernWingsFan

[Guest Jeremy88]

You cannot blame last nights loss on Lilja. It wasn't like he was standing there saying "What's the dumbest penalty I can take?" Delay of Game penalties are just dumb wierd bounces.

Yeah...occasionally he scews up, occasionally he makes a good play...but you guys expect...no...DEMAND perfection. Ok, let's get rid of Lilja...you guys go find a new 3rd line D-Man to replace Lilja (now stuarts here, Lilja is a 3rd line d guy) who is perfect and fits under the cap.

For a 3rd line D-Man, Lilja is fine.

Stop bitching.

Edited February 27, 2008 by Jeremy88

[shannyfan1414 0]

Here is my issue.

He makes more bonhead plays and mistakes then he seems to make good plays that help our team.

He sucks and should be sent packing.

[McCartyFanForLife 17]

I vote for kicking him to the curb. I don't see any positives, but I think everyone can list a ton of negatives. Definitely can't afford those mistakes during playoffs. Lilja needs to hit the road.

[egroen 384]

I am so torn on Lilja -- I actually caught myself once last night saying, "Lilja looks pretty good out there", but by the end of the game I wanted to kill him.

In my opinion, he is an ok third pairing defencemen and not worth more than a cent above $1 million a year. Not a cent. If he demands more, I would be more than happy to see him walk (then try and demand more from other teams and eventually go to Sweden, ala Markov who forgot what the Detroit system and Lidstrom do for defencemen stats).

I was incredibly impressed with Meech! Where the heck did that come from? He was all over the place and I think he will be better than Lebda. Maybe it was just one game, but man!

Quincey, I am happy with as a third pair next year.

Ericksson --> I see lots of potential. But he needs more time in the AHL, at least another year. He had lots of idiotic plays out there last night -- Even more than Lilja; they just didn't cost us the game like Lilja's did.

Edited February 27, 2008 by egroen

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

As I've been saying all year, he plays best right after he drops the gloves, and that's what he has to do to avoid all this criticism. He's 3-0 in fights this year, and everyone keeps dodging him, so maybe he just needs to jump someone and pound away on them. That'll get him ready for the playoffs just like it did last year.

[Sergeiwasmyfav 0]

Let's try to be objective here. Lilja took three penalties last night. One was a terrible call. He barely touched the guy. That is not taking a stupid penalty, that is being the victim of a terrible call by the referee. Another one was delay of game because he was in an awkward position and the puck flew on him. How many people has that happened to since that rule has been on the books? Certainly not just Lilja. Yes, it was at a bad time, but it has also happened to many other players at bad times as well. You guys make it seem like Lilja is the only player who ever makes mistakes at bad times. I assure you he is not. Overall, I would say Lilja took perhaps one bad penalty last night. The other two were not bad penalties in my opinion for the reasons I stated. I will be the first to admit, I like Lilja. I don't know why, I just do. So perhaps I am somewhat biased. However, many of you are also biased the other way. He has been playing pretty well lately and he has one arguably off game and everyone is calling for his head. What about all of the other players on the Wings who have been playing like crap lately? You all seem to think that Rafalski is the next coming, but what I see with him more often than not is horrible plays trying to hold the puck in the other team's zone when he is on the point and constant shots into the other team's skates, legs, etc. But whenever anyone points this out, everyone freaks out. Some objectivity people, I don't think that is too much to ask. Oh, and yes, I realize Rafalski has been out, so he has not been one of they guys playing like crap. I used him as an example of the ridiculous double standards on here.

Edited February 27, 2008 by Sergeiwasmyfav

[CdnWingsFanEh 2]

I went back and forth the last month between him and Lebda, as to who was worse. After screaming at the tv last night at him, I have come to the decision that it is him. God he sucks. Making a bad play every now and then is excuseable. He makes them far too often, though. Ugh. I have no more use for him.

[KronwallCRUNCH 5]

Lilja does give the puck away more often than anyone should, but he was an absolute beast in the playoffs last year, and outside of the Selanne incident, was one of the most solid players on our team. Playoffs matter.

[Nev 1,085]

Some things to consider

1) Once we get everyone back healthy, plus Stuart, Lilja drops down to 6 or 7 on the depth chart. Right now due to all the injuries he's been a 1st pairing d-man cos we ain't got no-one else.

2) Come the playoffs his minutes will be seriously reduced. Babcock likes to shorten his bench in the playoffs. With the top 5 we have I doubt Lilja will make 10 minutes per game.

3) Again, when everyone is healthy Lilja will be scrapping with Lebda for that 6th spot. Babcock has not been afraid of benching Lilja in the past, especially when he's not been playing physical enough. This season we've effectively only had 6 bodies on D, now we have 7. I think Babs can now afford to ride Lilja hard to make him use his size and earn his spot on the roster

[KronwallCRUNCH 5]

Some things to consider

1) Once we get everyone back healthy, plus Stuart, Lilja drops down to 6 or 7 on the depth chart. Right now due to all the injuries he's been a 1st pairing d-man cos we ain't got no-one else.

2) Come the playoffs his minutes will be seriously reduced. Babcock likes to shorten his bench in the playoffs. With the top 5 we have I doubt Lilja will make 10 minutes per game.

3) Again, when everyone is healthy Lilja will be scrapping with Lebda for that 6th spot. Babcock has not been afraid of benching Lilja in the past, especially when he's not been playing physical enough. This season we've effectively only had 6 bodies on D, now we have 7. I think Babs can now afford to ride Lilja hard to make him use his size and earn his spot on the roster

Exactly. Right now he's playing as a 2-3 dman. Just like Lebda. These guys shouldn't be playing this many minutes, against other team's 1st/2nd lines. They're great in their roles, but when you expect them to do Lidstrom's job, it ain't gonna happen.

[pavyaz19 1]

you know what,..i'll bite,...

that's the second time i can remember lilja losing a game for us. The other was a pivital game 5 against the ducks where he gave selanne the game winner.

You can say whatever you want,...this should have been this,...that should have been that,..but at the end of the night Lilja will play great all night then make a bone head move that gives away the game,....he's gotta go.

I've seen Lidstrom lose games for us too, maybe he should be traded as well.