Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted May 17, 2009 i dont mean today, i mean as the blackhawks announcer along with foley or whatver his name is. he was definately a homer announcer for them. so does he just turn the switch and keep his homer thoughts to himself during national games? he did good today so again its niot a big deal, just seems a little two-faced. I like Pat Foley, actually. Living in Chicago, whenever the Wings would play the Hawks that is how I'd follow the game before the advent of the internet and streaming video. Hell, even before I had my own computer, that's how I'd do it. Sometimes on a clear night you could pick up Detroit's station and listen to Ken and Paul, but that was rare. I remember listening to them after we won in '97......happy birthday to me. Anywhoozles, I have listened to a lot of different sportscasts where local announcers are doing national games and about 99% of the time they get that it's national and turn the homerisms off. I don't have a problem with a Hawks announcer doing any national telecasts of these games because I have the option of not listening to them. I go to 97.1's website and listen to Ken and Paul. Then I don't care if the Cookie Monster is calling the game on TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 They just announced that their "iso-cams" will be streaming on Toews and Kane. That's right, two Blackhawks. No iso-cams for the Red Wings. No doubt Bettman ordered NBC to do this since he hates the Wings. Gimme a Break! You didn't hear the constant barrage of "everyone thinkd Chicago is the faster team, well I think they are wrong!" quotes from Macguire and Milbury and Olczyk? All they did was praise the Wings (along with Chicago.) I think this wsa one of their better broadcasts. The iso-cams were because those two are the young-guns of the NHL, they are the players that are going to carry the NHL into the future and this is their first time in the playoffs. BTW, I think fans tuning in to the "iso-cams" got their moneys worth today, didn't they? Maybe the next NBC game will Iso on Franzen or Osgood. Did you see the skate nearly pull a Jason Vorhees on the Chicago player? (sorry,name escapes me) Sheeeet! That would have been horrendous! I think it cut the mic cord because he was the one mic's up in the first period, and after that we didn't hear a thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talex 1 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 no suprise nbc would favor the hawks, they are so biased toward anything liberal they hate success unless you are successful and massively liberal of course the wings are nuetral and the Wings drip of success. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 Gimme a Break! You didn't hear the constant barrage of "everyone thinkd Chicago is the faster team, well I think they are wrong!" quotes from Macguire and Milbury and Olczyk? All they did was praise the Wings (along with Chicago.) I think this wsa one of their better broadcasts. The iso-cams were because those two are the young-guns of the NHL, they are the players that are going to carry the NHL into the future and this is their first time in the playoffs. You win, harold. You win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetterling 16 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 no suprise nbc would favor the hawks, they are so biased toward anything liberal they hate success unless you are successful and massively liberal of course the wings are nuetral and the Wings drip of success. Liberal? The commercials the whole game were about military, home security, and police. That's not really telling me to buy anything. lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 122 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 I will say I thought it was kinda true to form that they had a Crosby Interview during the intermission.... That game is tomorrow and Ill lay odds they wont have a Lidstrom interview playing... Kane more likely. Detroit is never on these Networks favorite places to visit......I dont care too much thats what Mute is for during the Intermissions right? The NHL is definitly trying to market the younger guys...Obviously.. NBC is in the business of making their clients (in this case the NHL) happy. To say they are biased..maybe. but not because of isocams..... Lack of recognizing the talent on this team, Maybe..... but its all in how you hear it and interpret it.....Opinions are like armpits...everyone has at least one and it usually stinks anyway...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 I really doubt NBC is biased against the Wings. The ratings are the highest when the Wings are playing. There are 4 teams remaining the playoffs and they can't always talk about the Wings. If they had interviewed a Wings' player today, every other fanbase would cry a bias for the Wings. Get over it. We win, nuff' said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted May 18, 2009 no suprise nbc would favor the hawks, they are so biased toward anything liberal they hate success unless you are successful and massively liberal of course the wings are nuetral and the Wings drip of success. LOL. Liberal? The commercials the whole game were about military, home security, and police. That's not really telling me to buy anything. lol. At first I thought he was joking, then I looked up his posts and low and behold, he really is that stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakChamber 8 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 You win, harold. You win. :rotflmao: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 They just announced that their "iso-cams" will be streaming on Toews and Kane. That's right, two Blackhawks. No iso-cams for the Red Wings. No doubt Bettman ordered NBC to do this since he hates the Wings. I think somebody is making fun of people in here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 They just announced that their "iso-cams" will be streaming on Toews and Kane. That's right, two Blackhawks. No iso-cams for the Red Wings. No doubt Bettman ordered NBC to do this since he hates the Wings. No Wings fan is happy with bipartisan broadcasting. I have heard for years how ESPN, Versus, and NBC are biased against the Wings. In that time I have learned that there is no making the Wings fans happy in this regard unless Ken and Mick are broadcasting the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocket Queen 30 1 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 There aren't any stars on the wings for them to show. Except maybe Cleary. hahaha! no s***! but Go Cleary! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NC WINGS FAN 5 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 What is with all of the "everyone is against us mentality"? The NHL and media outlets are thrilled that the Redwings and Blackhawks won and probably bummed that the Bruins did not. They are big markets with large fan bases, old ones as well and therefore draw in the ratings. That is the name of the game, big ratings = more money, that simple. At the same time, they would be pulling their hair out if it were Anaheim and Vancouver in the WCF b/c no one cares about them and would not watch. Now, if they get to the finals and the Pens are there, then yes, you have a point b/c Crosby is the league's new golden boy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 They just announced that their "iso-cams" will be streaming on Toews and Kane. That's right, two Blackhawks. No iso-cams for the Red Wings. Sure hope they caught those two "-3" performances then - serves them right! lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted May 18, 2009 We cant use an ISOCAM on Detroit, no one would be able to understand our team! Hell, even Cleary is a newfie and would be barely able to understand, Helm isn't well known and Osgood speaking while playing would lead to untimely goals! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) Man, Crosby hoopla really cracks me up -- You know there is a decree coming down from on high at the NHL offices, that they must get so much air time of Crosby, so it really must suck at times because he is usually a terrible interview, and at times he just isn't that great. How desperate were they for a great play from Crosby last year in the first two games of the SCFs??? Most clips showed him skating in circles and huffing and puffing on the bench. They did capture and replay a nifty move he had to cross the blue line.... and do nothing. But now that stick exchange he had, that was a thing of beauty, and I did need to see a slow motion of that, and then in regular speed again, to really appreciate it. Edited May 18, 2009 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stiffy 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 I'm sorry, but people gotta open their ears. The NBC announcers have been praising the Wings like it was Colorado in 1999. If you had a drinking game based on some comment about the Wings dominance, expertise, skill, depth, coaching, speed... you could have a frat boy on pledge night be your designated driver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CdnWingsFanEh 2 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 All sarcasm aside, what the hell is an ISO cam? Never heard the term before. Yes I did just crawl out from under a rock... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 All sarcasm aside, what the hell is an ISO cam? Never heard the term before. Yes I did just crawl out from under a rock... Well normally ISO for a camera's film speed is the measure of a photographic film's sensitivity to light. But in this case, it just stands for Isolation Cam. i.e. they are isolating players on the camera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 There aren't any stars on the wings for them to show. Except maybe Cleary. Toews: -3 Kane: -3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 If you don't seen that the intentions behind interviewing crosby, during a game he has nothing to do with, are not to get thoughts about staal v staal or about his team, but just to market him to a national audience, you're dense. There is nothing more to it, no amount of sarcasm will make you seem correct. Wow the NHL decided to market to a national audience the guy that they consider the most marketable. They interviewed him not because he had anything to do with the game playing but because he had something to do with the game being played the next night ON THEIR PARTNER NETWORK and it will help create viewership for that game. The Wings game was on national broadcast television (on Sunday afternoon) while the Pens and Crosby will be on cable the viewership (on a Monday night) - the Wings got the better channel and better date/time - of course they marketed for the game the next night. Uh, just about every announcer NBC and Versus uses works with other teams. Doc Emrick works with the Devils broadcasts, Strader with the Coyotes, Forslund with the Hurricanes, Beninati with the Caps.. and I could go on and on. The point is, your expectations to have an announcer that doesn't work with other teams is obviously unrealistic, and this is how things in American broadcasts have been done for years. Obviously bias has not been a problem. Well then maybe they should work on getting some unbiased announcers at NBC then. And how is it unrealistic when NFL, NBA, MLB all manage to get solid unbiased national announcers? why cant the NHL have their own versionof a guy like Mike Tirico, Pat Summerall, or al michaels? thats basically my point, but again it really isnt too big of a deal and im not too bothered by it NBC doesn't show enough games for that to be their full time job. TNT shows tons of NBA games so that is what those guys do full time. Fox shows tons of NFL games so those guys are full time too. The NHL only starts showing games in January and only 1 game a week and is even limited in the playoffs. Those guys have other jobs (which pretty much have to be with a specific team since they couldn't do VS and NBC very easily because of scheduling) until the NHL has a big contract covering lots of games with one of the major broadcasters this will continue which is really no big deal. Intents. And. Purposes. Sorry, it just irks me. Everyone says it too. I was just about to mention that, it bothers me too. i dont mean today, i mean as the blackhawks announcer along with foley or whatver his name is. he was definately a homer announcer for them. so does he just turn the switch and keep his homer thoughts to himself during national games? he did good today so again its niot a big deal, just seems a little two-faced. imagine if mickey(obvious homer) switched to do a national game and all of a sudden was completely unbiased. Does that mean that he still isnt a red wings fan on the insisde? I don't care who he is a fan of on the inside. You don't think that every commentator for every sport has a team or a player that they really like? Of course they do. As long as they can commentate without letting their personal preference dominate their commentary who really cares who they like on the inside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) NBC doesn't show enough games for that to be their full time job. TNT shows tons of NBA games so that is what those guys do full time. Fox shows tons of NFL games so those guys are full time too. The NHL only starts showing games in January and only 1 game a week and is even limited in the playoffs. Those guys have other jobs (which pretty much have to be with a specific team since they couldn't do VS and NBC very easily because of scheduling) until the NHL has a big contract covering lots of games with one of the major broadcasters this will continue which is really no big deal. I agree with the intent of your post (in response to mine/some other guy's), especially the first part of it. But regarding FOX Sports, they absolutely have handfuls of announcers who either work in other sports on FOX, like baseball, or they end up doing college broadcasting too. The same has long been true for NBC, as well as CBS. I really wasn't thinking too much though about other sports, as I could give a damn what happens to the MLB or NBA or NFL or televised college sports, to be frank. As much as I would think an ESPN deal wouldn't be so much a solution as some make it out to be (like, the league's Jesus Christ), if the NHL would give ESPN a s***-ton of games, it would not only increase popularity, but as you mention perhaps lure back some multi-talented broadcasters (he did other sports/leagues as well) like Gary Thorne back to the NHL. Edited May 18, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsMyWings13 4 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 They just announced that their "iso-cams" will be streaming on Toews and Kane. That's right, two Blackhawks. No iso-cams for the Red Wings. No doubt Bettman ordered NBC to do this since he hates the Wings. I'm a little late on this one but who cares? This crying because everything is not all about the Wings all the time gets old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 I agree with the intent of your post (in response to mine/some other guy's), especially the first part of it. But regarding FOX Sports, they absolutely have handfuls of announcers who either work in other sports on FOX, like baseball, or they end up doing college broadcasting too. The same has long been true for NBC, as well as CBS. I really wasn't thinking too much though about other sports, as I could give a damn what happens to the MLB or NBA or NFL or televised college sports, to be frank. As much as I would think an ESPN deal wouldn't be so much a solution as some make it out to be (like, the league's Jesus Christ), if the NHL would give ESPN a s***-ton of games, it would not only increase popularity, but as you mention perhaps lure back some multi-talented broadcasters (he did other sports/leagues as well) like Gary Thorne back to the NHL. Yeah I agree with that. I'm not saying that none of the guys in other sports have other broadcasting jobs. More that other sports have many more opportunities for permanent broadcasters or of them to do college games etc. There a lot more college basketball and football games on tv than college hockey games. You can't hardly even find the Frozen Four unless you are specifically looking for it. I agree that having tons of games on ESPN would fix or largely alleviate the problem because guys could commentate for them full time and would provide some general stability to the league regarding scheduling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted May 18, 2009 I'm a little late on this one but who cares? This crying because everything is not all about the Wings all the time gets old. Yeah BlakChamber was just being sarcastic, he was saying the same thing as you just mocking at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
