YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 so why would we give a raise to a one-dimensional player? I'll keep hudler, but for his same salary. He hasn't shown he deserves a raise, so if wants more than $1.1, good on ya huds! Enjoy your career! You're quickly proving yourself to be one of the most ignorant posters on the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hossa4Life 4 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 That throws me a bit. I have a real hard time believe they'd go under $4 million at him. That just sounds a little absurd. I still haven't seen it pop up anywhere else. Yea all i have been doing since then is looking for confirming reports Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Im hoping this is a faulse report. It is hard to believe they only offering 3.75-4.00. I was expecting more like4- 4.5 million at least They gave him the best offer they could give. Holland isn't stupid, he must have known there was very little chance Hossa would accept that offer, but he simply couldn't go any higher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Have fun never winning a cup! Just like someone earlier said, out with the bad juju, in with the cups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 No joke. I don't understand why people think that Hudler will be getting huge offer sheets. He's a completely one-dimensional player, and he's certainly not a well-known one. I think this is the first time we've ever agreed on anything Crymson! Thanks for the 40 goals, but a monkey could've done what you did in the Finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) Good to hear that. Because Holland would easily match an offer for $2.5. You obviously have no clue what 57 point 25 year olds are worth. Oh God! I hope he wouldn't waste $2.5 million on Hudler.... Besides that would only be 10 forwards with only $800,000 cap to go. You couldn't even re-sign Leino if you gave Hudler $2.5... Holland would be an ass. I know what 57 point 25 year old are worth, BUT we don't have enough cap space to give Hudler $2.5 AND complete our forward units.... He'll have to make the same salary, at least for one more year, then possibly get a raise in 2010... Or bid adieu! Not unless Holland does a Zetterberg type contract where Huds makes $2.5 per year, but he cap hit is only $1.0. That I could deal with, don't know if I culd deal with Hudler for the next 10 years, but maybe he turns into something good! Edited July 1, 2009 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?...e=lebrun_pierre • Hossa update: The clock is ticking and Marian Hossa still hasn't re-signed with the Red Wings. Right now, it looks like he's headed to free agency. "It appears that way," Wings GM Ken Holland told ESPN.com via text message at 9:30 p.m. ET. If that's the quote the report is based on, it's not quite rock solid. Obviously things are leaning towards free agency but what I've said all along, I still wouldn't be shocked to see this done Thursday or Friday. I think Hossa owes it to himself to see what's out there, but if it's not all as Winter would have it and the Wings struggle to resign Sammy or Hudler, I wouldn't rule it out. Time will tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hossa4Life 4 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Any chance that Hossa will sign a one year deal somewhere else and come back next year when we have slightly more cap space Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Thanks for the memories, Hossa. You're a classy guy, not many would take the discount you did. You fit in well here and seemed like you were born to be a Wing. Wish you luck wherever you go, it's been fun! And hey, even classier that you didn't laugh at the Wings when they offered you 3.75-4 million and tried to work with them as long as possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soonboomer 31 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Thanks for the work during the season. Piss off for wasting $7m of our cap space and a roster spot with your ridiculous disappearing act in the playoffs. Really.....now we can afford several no talent North American thugs who can protect our Euro-***** skill players and really contribute to a successful run in the 2010 playoffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Any chance that Hossa will sign a one year deal somewhere else and come back next year when we have slightly more cap space No. Get a new username. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 No Hudler please either ... I would rather get some picks then him on the team. Re-sign Leino and call up Adkel and Helm for full time hockey. Sign a gritty player please someone that has heart and soul to win a cup (Like Drake) Sad day for us ... but can't be worst then Federov ... Thanks for everything Hossa you tried your best and we tried out best but didn't work out hope all the luck in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statts 4 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Good luck Marian! it was a great year I'll always be a fan of yours (most likely, pending a signing and success vs the Wings ) +1 Wish him success, just not against the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Really.....now we can afford several no talent North American thugs who can protect our Euro-***** skill players and really contribute to a successful run in the 2010 playoffs This is bizzaro world right now because I'm defending Crymsons post, but he doesnt like gritty North Americans, at all. He's very pro Lidstrom and Datsyuk, etc He was simply giving his opinion of Hossa, just because he scored 40 goals in the regular season doesnt make it ok he took the Finals off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HudlerFanatic 4 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) so why would we give a raise to a one-dimensional player? I'll keep hudler, but for his same salary. He hasn't shown he deserves a raise, so if wants more than $1.1, good on ya huds! Enjoy your career! $1.1 MIL PLAYOFF 26 C Jiri Hudler 23 4 8 12 4 6 2 0 1 36 11.1 REG 82 23 34 57 7 16 6 0 2 155 14.8 $2.5 MIL PLAYOFF 51 C Valtteri Filppula 23 3 13 16 8 8 1 0 1 35 8.6 REG 80 12 28 40 9 42 1 0 1 129 9.3 PLAYOFF 21 L Ville Leino 7 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 7 0.0 REG 21 L Ville Leino 13 5 4 9 5 6 0 0 1 17 29.4 Who's NOT worth what they are already getting paid??????? Edited July 1, 2009 by HudlerFanatic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Sad day for us ... I disagree. It's more of a "meh, okay, let's move on" day for the Wings. They didn't need him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Cool. Depth wins championships. We've got enough elite players, we need to make sure the Wings aren't icing a half NHL half AHL line-up, and that means bringing Hudler back to increase the scoring depth. Hudler's good for 60+ points next season (he's always trended upwards and scored 57 pts last season), that won't be easy to replace. w00t! Come back to Detroit Hudles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 This sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Any chance that Hossa will sign a one year deal somewhere else and come back next year when we have slightly more cap space Very, very small. For a hockey player it's a big risk to sign one-year deals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Kenny would match a $2.5 million dollar offer sheet and leave $800,000 to sign 2 more forwards and walk away from draft picks? I think not. It's all about the cap. Draft picks? Its a 2nd round pick. Whoop-Dee-Doo. You're a moron if you think Holland would let Hudler walk away for a 2nd round pick, and not do something to make up the cap space, which would be a breeze. Hes already acknowledged that hes trading a Dman anyways, so that frees up at least 500k. And at any rate, you still haven't addressed the arbitration issue. You take a player to arbitration, hes protected from offer sheets, and can negotiate with him up until his trial. Welcome to hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Red Machine 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 PLAYOFF 26 C Jiri Hudler 23 4 8 12 4 6 2 0 1 36 11.1 REG 26 C Jiri Hudler 82 23 34 57 7 16 6 0 2 155 14.8 PLAYOFF 51 C Valtteri Filppula 23 3 13 16 8 8 1 0 1 35 8.6 REG 51 C Valtteri Filppula 80 12 28 40 9 42 1 0 1 129 9.3 PLAYOFF 21 L Ville Leino 7 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 7 0.0 REG 21 L Ville Leino 13 5 4 9 5 6 0 0 1 17 29.4 Who's NOT worth what they are already getting paid??????? To include Leino in that comparison is laughable. He hardly played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Cool. Depth wins championships. We've got enough elite players, we need to make sure the Wings aren't icing a half NHL half AHL line-up, and that means bringing Hudler back to increase the scoring depth. Hudler's good for 60+ points next season (he's always trended upwards and scored 57 pts last season), that won't be easy to replace. w00t! Come back to Detroit Hudles. Apparently we don't have enough elite players because ours didn't perform too well in the playoffs. I wish people would stop pretending like Hossa didn't matter. He was huge for us, every player has a bad playoff run or two. The whole team was a bit off kilter all year. It sucks that we're losing the talent like Hossa, but it makes me feel okay, knowing that it does open up some space for us to make some moves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Really.....now we can afford several no talent North American thugs who can protect our Euro-***** skill players and really contribute to a successful run in the 2010 playoffs Tomas Kopecky, is that you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 No Hudler please either ... I would rather get some picks then him on the team. Re-sign Leino and call up Adkel and Helm for full time hockey. Sign a gritty player please someone that has heart and soul to win a cup (Like Drake) Sad day for us ... but can't be worst then Federov ... Thanks for everything Hossa you tried your best and we tried out best but didn't work out hope all the luck in the future. Abdelkader won't be on the team. Thats already been addressed by the Wings management. And they can't afford an unpolished rookie at 850k anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted July 1, 2009 Draft picks? Its a 2nd round pick. Whoop-Dee-Doo. You're a moron if you think Holland would let Hudler walk away for a 2nd round pick, and not do something to make up the cap space, which would be a breeze. Hes already acknowledged that hes trading a Dman anyways, so that frees up at least 500k. And at any rate, you still haven't addressed the arbitration issue. You take a player to arbitration, hes protected from offer sheets, and can negotiate with him up until his trial. Welcome to hockey. We better hope he files for arbitration and doesn't go to trial (ala Filppula) because if he goes to trial he will make more than he is worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
