Jason Williams Offered 1 Year Contract

[Drake_Marcus 890]

You're an idiot. He only did that to save the kitten's life (the kitten had a crushed windpipe, and Crosby fixed it with a precision tap - you just thought it looked like a punch because you've spent so much time watching Maltby and Franzen that you think high-fives are violent attacks), and if you were paying attention you would have seen that the kitten turned into a golden unicorn shortly after Crosby touched it. I bet you don't even watch hockey.

No you're the idiot. That kitten was the reincarnation of Hitler. By saving that kitten Crosby's set us up for another horrible genocide. Moreover, by turning the kitten into a golden unicorn he gave it both the capacity to impale people AND the ability to buy unlimited supplies via golden unicorn poop.

I bet you don't even watch the X-Files.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

No. My wife is without blemish and my children excell in all they do.

Actually, for real my wife is super smart. She has the one thing that I look for in people I want to be around; curiosity. Curious people are smart and will do well at everything they do. When you're a curious sort, Calculus isn't hard, Calculus is interesting. My oldest just turned 5. When we walk through our woods he can pick out Elm, Pine, Spruce, Beech, Maple, Oak and Ash trees. Not because I wanted to teach him, but because he wants to know. He knows from 100 yards away whether an old crawler next to an abandoned barn is an Oliver, Deere, International, Cletrac, AC, or Cat. He can tell Lake Trout, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout and Brook Trout apart. He's got an arm like Clemens - not because he's big for his age or ultra coordinated, but because he wanted to learn how to throw a ball. He will excell in everything he ever does, because he is curious.

If you really want your kid to have a great baseball pitching career teach him to throw like Tim Lincecum. That kid's as close to injury resistant as it gets and it's all because his pitching mechanics are scientifically honed to perfection. His father taught him to pitch like that. You should look that story up-- it's actually a touching father-son tale.

[newfy 695]

If you can convince Holland to get rid of someone like Maltby, I'd be all for it.

But as it is, the team already has enough role players on its bottom lines that can barely score (Draper, Maltby, Helm, Abdelkader if he is up or whatever FA grinder gets signed instead) - and I'm not as interested in adding more considering all the offense lost.

I don't think our team is hurting for offence nearly as much as it is for a bit of sand paper. Really we've only lost Hossa the rest weren't huge goal scorers. I would add some toughness to replace Kopecky because thats what Kopecky was supposed to provide for this team and then go from there. There isn't any good goal scorers in our price range to sign so why not sign the next thing we need? A gritty player that can PK and will scrap occasionally

[RedFX 48]

But what would be wrong with gettnig another Drake type player? He didn't take alot of stupid penalties, hit, fought and played with heart. When I or another fight advocate says something about a player like Drake automatically we get burned and told to root for the Ducks. Drake didn't hurt the team at all but for some reason we suggest a player like him and we're suggesting we would rather our team go 0-82 as long as we fight.

As the person who brought the 0-82 thing up, I think I should clarify, as I think it has been taken out of context.

I was replying specifically to the poster who made the comment "what good is winning if you do it methodical and boring." From that, I was asking what was more important, fights or Stanley Cups. I wasn't implying that signing a tough player would put us down the crapper. I'd actually love to put a big, physical presence on this team. HOWEVER, I don't want it to be a wasted roster spot either, a guy who strictly fights. I want someone who can contribute to the final score, a big defensive, penalty-killing grinder. Someone who can step up and play more minutes in case of injuries etc.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

and he's a cult hero, i guess that just shows how lacking this team is eh lol

I want another Drake because of how he played in game 6 verses Dallas. The Wings were looking sluggish and outplayed early in that game. At the time we were up 3-2 in the series and a loss would've put the entire series in the hands of the Stars. What does Drake do? He goes out and hits everyone who isn't wearing red. I think he had 3 great hits in one shift at one point. He also managed to score a goal and get an assist of my memory serves me. Those two points weren't as important as that one super-charged energy shift he had. After that shift the entire Wings bench looked better and started playing with passion. He was probably the most important player in that game because his one shift was the turning point. I think it's game 6 that I'm thinking of.

[chrisdetroit 189]

I wonder if we'd have won the cup this year if Homer would have been beat up so bad by Pronger that he would have had to sit out the finals. Judging by his play and the useful minutes he took up, I'd say "maybe".

Yes, he is still a great Dman, maybe the best in the league. Nonetheless, his skills are declining, and I think they are doing so more rapidly than many. Those are not contradictory stances.

Yes, his skills have dropped off a little and it's happened 1 year in a row now. But you think that it is happening "more rapidly than most".

Tell us how you arrived at that conculsion and more importantly how you know more than "most".

hahahahahah

[kook_10 1,705]

HOWEVER, I don't want it to be a wasted roster spot either, a guy who strictly fights.

I dont think the team, as it is, could support a brawler. They're just not tough enough or big enough to deal with the side effects for 82 games. A brawler would fire up rest of the bigger tougher opponents. Our smaller, more demure guys would get hurt when he is in the box. If the Wings were a genuinely tough team, I would be for a brawler. I am more for a genuinely tougher Wings team. That having been said, I am happy with the winning philosphy and drafting that has served them well lately. When that stops working, I will welcome a new face to the team.

[bonan78 1]

You're an idiot. He only did that to save the kitten's life (the kitten had a crushed windpipe, and Crosby fixed it with a precision tap - you just thought it looked like a punch because you've spent so much time watching Maltby and Franzen that you think high-fives are violent attacks), and if you were paying attention you would have seen that the kitten turned into a golden unicorn shortly after Crosby touched it. I bet you don't even watch hockey.

No you're the idiot. That kitten was the reincarnation of Hitler. By saving that kitten Crosby's set us up for another horrible genocide. Moreover, by turning the kitten into a golden unicorn he gave it both the capacity to impale people AND the ability to buy unlimited supplies via golden unicorn poop.

I bet you don't even watch the X-Files.

/\ leads me to this \/

There should be some kind of topic buzzer for every member of LGW. Everytime you get completely off topic you get electrocuted and your account is suspended for one day.

I swear sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or scratch my head in bewilderment. This forum never ceases to entertain.

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

Why would a team that didn't play with much effort in games 6 and 7 of the SCF Finals go after a guy that is known for being soft and not playing with much effort? Williams is a guy that's always been shy about contact. Apparently, that's what we need right now.

[gcom007 1,465]

No you're the idiot. That kitten was the reincarnation of Hitler. By saving that kitten Crosby's set us up for another horrible genocide. Moreover, by turning the kitten into a golden unicorn he gave it both the capacity to impale people AND the ability to buy unlimited supplies via golden unicorn poop.

I bet you don't even watch the X-Files.

ROLLING!!!!!!!!!

[Mors 201]

Why would a team that didn't play with much effort in games 6 and 7 of the SCF Finals go after a guy that is known for being soft and not playing with much effort? Williams is a guy that's always been shy about contact. Apparently, that's what we need right now.

This.

[chrisdetroit 189]

Would you mind handing your account over to one of them?

That post made my day

[NGKEIB 32]

Why would a team that didn't play with much effort in games 6 and 7 of the SCF Finals go after a guy that is known for being soft and not playing with much effort? Williams is a guy that's always been shy about contact. Apparently, that's what we need right now.

You could be talking absolute crap, and I still wouldn't care because of your avatar (though her political views are somewhat questionable). It's a valid point. I can only assume that they're going for one guy who is good for c. 20 goals, and also want to get a grinding, defensive player. I've said elsewhere that I have no problems signing Williams per se, but I will be irritated if we overpay him. He's not worth near 2.2 million in my eyes, and the fact that he's apparently 'considering' the offer means it is probably closer to 1.2.

[Stiffy 0]

This is horrible news in my opinion. He's just about the last guy I would have wanted

Oh God, say it aint so. He cost us a WCF game and possibly series. I might forgive Stuart, but never this guy.

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

You could be talking absolute crap, and I still wouldn't care because of your avatar (though her political views are somewhat questionable). It's a valid point. I can only assume that they're going for one guy who is good for c. 20 goals, and also want to get a grinding, defensive player. I've said elsewhere that I have no problems signing Williams per se, but I will be irritated if we overpay him. He's not worth near 2.2 million in my eyes, and the fact that he's apparently 'considering' the offer means it is probably closer to 1.2.

There's no point signing him, period. He's not good enough to be a top 6 player, and not physical enough to be on the checking lines. He's basically a slightly bigger and less skilled version of Hudler.

Oh and I don't care about BB's political views either. I just care about what's on the screen and how I feel when she's on it.

[96warrior 11]

From MLIVE:

Jason Williams expects to mull offers from KHL before getting back to Red Wings

Posted by George James Malik July 30, 2009 16:45PM

Jason Williams spoke to the Columbus Dispatch's Aaron Portzline about the fact that the Detroit Red Wings have offered him a one-year contract, addressing the news as someone who had initially hoped that the Blue Jackets would retain him--and Portzline reveals that the interest from both sides appears lukewarm at present:

July 30, Columbus Dispatch: It doesn't appear that a deal is imminent, and by that I mean in the next 24-48 hours. The Red Wings and Williams have been talking for two weeks now, and an offer is on the table. But the Wings may have to make a move to clear salary cap space before Williams is able to officially sign.

"They're really the only NHL club that has shown any interest," Williams said.

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

I would rather have Kyle Calder back than Williams.

I can't believe the people who want him back are forgetting why we got rid of him in the first place.

[skacore 2]

I would rather have Kyle Calder back than Williams.

I can't believe the people who want him back are forgetting why we got rid of him in the first place.

i'd rather Calder too... but is it sad that i'd rather Williams than Prospal and his giant visor twin Sykora??

[Guest micah]

If you really want your kid to have a great baseball pitching career teach him to throw like Tim Lincecum. That kid's as close to injury resistant as it gets and it's all because his pitching mechanics are scientifically honed to perfection. His father taught him to pitch like that. You should look that story up-- it's actually a touching father-son tale.

Truth be told, I don't really care if he's good at any sport or not, I just want him to be into things. Any things, really. I want him to live life and absorb things. If he wants to be a great pitcher, I'd do what I could to help him. Ditto an Astronaut or a Mechanic. I don't really care that way. What I do care about is that my kids grow into great adults. People who think for themselves, fight their battles on principal rather than fashion or convinience, and help those who are less fortunate. The sky's the limit for my kids, but they all know from day 1 that nobody owes them dick.

I will tak eyou up on the book suggestion though, sounds interesting. Thanks.

[HudlerFanatic 4]

Williams has speed and a rocket of a shot, certainly an upgrade over Samuelsson and essentially the same player as Hudler. Remind me again, why is this bad news?

Think about what you just said.......... "essentially the same player" ..........then add "for only $.5M less than what the Wings offered Hudler....

If more effort would have been put in to keeping Hudler (IMO) before Leino was signed, none of this would be happening and no one would be waiting around to see what happens and who the Wings are getting instead of Hudler.

[Louisville 112]

From MLIVE:

Jason Williams expects to mull offers from KHL before getting back to Red Wings

Posted by George James Malik July 30, 2009 16:45PM

Jason Williams spoke to the Columbus Dispatch's Aaron Portzline about the fact that the Detroit Red Wings have offered him a one-year contract, addressing the news as someone who had initially hoped that the Blue Jackets would retain him--and Portzline reveals that the interest from both sides appears lukewarm at present:

July 30, Columbus Dispatch: It doesn't appear that a deal is imminent, and by that I mean in the next 24-48 hours. The Red Wings and Williams have been talking for two weeks now, and an offer is on the table. But the Wings may have to make a move to clear salary cap space before Williams is able to officially sign.

"They're really the only NHL club that has shown any interest," Williams said.

That says it all.

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

Can you imagine seeing him back on the point on the PP?

Just when Sammy is gone, this fool comes back to fill the spot. At least Sammy was good at keeping the puck from being turned over on the point.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Good god, I hope this is false. The Williams of 05-06 would be a welcome addition, but the post-Raffi Torres Williams is a joke.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Truth be told, I don't really care if he's good at any sport or not, I just want him to be into things. Any things, really. I want him to live life and absorb things. If he wants to be a great pitcher, I'd do what I could to help him. Ditto an Astronaut or a Mechanic. I don't really care that way. What I do care about is that my kids grow into great adults. People who think for themselves, fight their battles on principal rather than fashion or convinience, and help those who are less fortunate. The sky's the limit for my kids, but they all know from day 1 that nobody owes them dick.

That's the key point. When I have kids I'll definitely drive that point home. A sense of entitlement has never helped a person.

I will tak eyou up on the book suggestion though, sounds interesting. Thanks.

It's actually an article in Sports Illustrated. You can read article in question here:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writ...1/lincecum0707/

It's a good read in my opinion.

[RockyMountainWingGal 108]

That was many years ago...Since then he's a pest who won't stand-up for himself, and relies on his teammates (again quite a few years ago), or refs/linesmen (what we see today) to answer for his actions...Steve Sullivan (when he was a Leaf ) challenged Maltby after Maltby gave him a face wash...Malts skated away, but wasn't able to draw Sullivan into a pen (if I remember correctly)...One of the very few times I wouldn't have minded seeing a Red Wing player get smacked in the face for that garbage.

Guys like him I cannot stand

Maltby's job was never to fight, it was to be a pest, and he's been a damn good one. He's great at drawing penalties (even if he is diving to do it). Note how much he frustrated Crosby - got his foot whacked after that game. Hell Crosby is an even bigger wuss than Maltby if you ask me. Anyhow, he's played his role well on the 4th line for the Wings, but sure he is past his prime and when his contract runs out he'll be done here.

And right now I'd even keep Maltby over Williams. Please Kenny rescind the offer!