the 09 pittsburg pens

[mwagner468 12]

I was curious so went back to last year's pens team and They did not have a winning record {if you count the overtime losses as losses until the 66th game. Now we all know they only won the cup because of our injuries, but my point is we are not that far off the pace set by them if we can just get it together.

I'm not saying we are going to win the cup, but who is going to want to play us if we get in? If we take the next two games before the break look out.

[MTU_Huskies963 398]

Eh the pens are in the LEast. Heck if we were in their conference we would have a playoff spot.

[cupforwings 138]

Eh the pens are in the LEast. Heck if we were in their conference we would have a playoff spot.

That pretty much sums it up... West>East

[Guest ZetterbergFourty]

Eh the pens are in the LEast. Heck if we were in their conference we would have a playoff spot.

Probably 5th or 6th.

[mwagner468 12]

My point is its not to late to get it going. I'm not ready to give up on this team for this year yet.

[dat's sick 1,002]

Eh the pens are in the LEast. Heck if we were in their conference we would have a playoff spot.

If the 16 best teams in the league made the playoffs, it would probably be like 11 teams from the West and 5 from the East.

[AtomicPunk 296]

My point is its not to late to get it going. I'm not ready to give up on this team for this year yet.

Not yet, but I'm almost ready to reach for the panic button, I hope Kenny is too.

[j.hoop 64]

this s*** is irrelevant and useless. im sorry but it just is.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

this s*** is irrelevant and useless. im sorry but it just is.

Not really, a similar scenrio could happen again, at least in terms of making the playoffs to start.

[Guest Howard He Do It?!]

this s*** is irrelevant and useless. im sorry but it just is.

Pretty much. The Pens play in the East and they fired their coach.

The Wings have 65 points. That's good enough for 6th in the East.

Edited February 11, 2010 by Howard He Do It?!

[titanium2 867]

Just like someone else said in almost the exact same thread: The Pens had Gary Bettman on their side.

[Guest Howard He Do It?!]

Just like someone else said in almost the exact same thread: The Pens had Gary Bettman on their side.

And inside them.

[toby91_ca 620]

Eh the pens are in the LEast. Heck if we were in their conference we would have a playoff spot.

Perhaps, but you don't really know unless they were to actually play in that conference.

The only facts you really have to go on are this:

Wings record against Western teams: 21-16-8, winning percentage = .467 (straight win/loss percentage)

Wings record against Eastern teams: 6-5-3, winning percentage = .429

I think the general idea that the West is the stronger conference tends to get exagerrated a bit. Surely, a team like the Caps benefit quite a bit by being able to feast on the teams in their division, but on an overall basis, I don't think there really is a signficant difference.

[dragonballgtz 273]

So you saying to fire the coach? Because thats what the Pens did, it worked though.

Edited February 11, 2010 by dragonballgtz

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

Just like someone else said in almost the exact same thread: The Pens had Gary Bettman on their side.

That was me.

I also said they had God and the refs on their side. We don't.

[LeftWinger 5,131]

Just like someone else said in almost the exact same thread: The Pens had Gary Bettman on their side.

Well, Gary gave them the Cup. I do agree with the OP that it isn't time to press the button, but it is armed. The Cup right now, I believe, is a pipe dream for the Wings, I do hope they make the playoffs and you know that anything can happen once you get there. But if they don't add someone by the deadline, the playoffs are just gonna get further and further from their grasp...

[ami 273]

Last year last PO spot was taken with 91 point. At 60 game point mark, Feb. 25 2009, Edmonton was in 8 pos in the standings with 65 points; today Calgary's holding 8th spot with 67 points.

This year 91 point is not going to cut it. I'm afraid it's going to be 95-96 at least. It means we need to get at least 30/31 points in 23 games.

1) 16-x-x

2) 15-7-1

3) 14-6-3 = 31 point <====

4) 13-5-5 = 31 point <====

5) 12-4-7 = 31 point

6) 11-3-9 = 31 point

7) 10-2-11 = 31 point

8) 9-1-13 = 31 point

9) 8-0-15 = 31 point

10) 7-x-x

Are ##3,4 unreal? No, not at all.

Edited February 11, 2010 by ami

[titanium2 867]

That was me.

I also said they had God and the refs on their side. We don't.

Oh my bad. Props to you GMR.

The refs, definitely. God? Ehhh, I don't think that God would be on the same team as Bettman.

[Stiffy 0]

Yea, the wings would do great in the east. I mean we all know how they step it up in games with low performing teams - that killer instinct is just brutal to watch. Just think what they could do to a team like the Islanders.

[Datsasuk 2]

First of all...You spelled PittsburgH wrong. Anyway, the Pens made the playoffs and won the cup because they turned themselves around and were the hottest team in the NHL from February - June. For 3 years, the Pens did the same thing. Slow starts and turned it up like 3 notches in February.

Regardless, yes Detroit could do the same thing, but Pittsburgh took chances and made trades and personnel changes to make it happen. Will Detroit do that? Probably not.

[KillerB14 2]

First of all...You spelled PittsburgH wrong. Anyway, the Pens made the playoffs and won the cup because they turned themselves around and were the hottest team in the NHL from February - June. For 3 years, the Pens did the same thing. Slow starts and turned it up like 3 notches in February.

Regardless, yes Detroit could do the same thing, but Pittsburgh took chances and made trades and personnel changes to make it happen. Will Detroit do that? Probably not.

They were a hot team in the east, but with a healthy Datsyuk that series was over in 5.

Maybe a trade would work, except no point in trading if it means our young guys and who wants our older guys save Lidstrom, Zetts and Dats? How close was pittsburgh to the cap to make a trade? Wings do not have much room.

The two teams are in very different situations. We really can't tell what this Wings team is all about because of all the injuries. We shouldn't change coaches for that reason, Babcock's one of/if not the best coach in the league.

But unless more guys go down, this injury excuse is over. We have Eaves and Kronwall out. Plenty teams play with two key guys out. The Wings need to just get down to it and start winning games. That's it.

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

First of all...You spelled PittsburgH wrong. Anyway, the Pens made the playoffs and won the cup because they turned themselves around and were the hottest team in the NHL from February - June. For 3 years, the Pens did the same thing. Slow starts and turned it up like 3 notches in February.

Regardless, yes Detroit could do the same thing, but Pittsburgh took chances and made trades and personnel changes to make it happen. Will Detroit do that? Probably not.

Good point.

They brought in Guerin and Kunitz, which are both top 6 players. We probably don't have the capspace for such maneuvers.