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Brett Lebda signs with Toronto

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I don't know if it has to do more with Lebda, or that THIS is the outcome for the Leafs that everyone was expecting to see this season.

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Have the Leafs really not won a game yet with him in the lineup?

They haven't, but he's only played two games.

Toronto lost tonight.... since the return of Brett 0-2-1... before him 4-0 HA :hehe:

He was a healthy scratch last night. Though Carl Gunnarsson played pretty well, so I doubt he'll get back in soon. Edited by MacK_Attack

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It's a tough blueline to crack. Not a lot of ice time to be scooped up by Lebda, or anybody else outside of the top-four.

The only defenceman making less than him is Gunnarsson, and that's because he's on an ELC. $1.45 million really isn't an exorbitant amount anymore. It's 2% of the cap. Hell, they're paying Jeff Finger $3.5 million to play in the AHL.

I'll say that keeping Kaberle has made Lebda awfully redundant in the sense that they don't need him on the PP with Kaberle running things.

Now next year could be a different story.

I hear ya, but honestly I think it's a lot for a known quantity like Lebda. There is not really a lot of untapped potential or upside. Lilja and Salei are two guys I'd put in the lineup over Lebda, and they're both making less than a million.

I just really dont' understand this signing for that much money. If they hoped he would fulfill a larger role and then realized how limited he was, or what.

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I hear ya, but honestly I think it's a lot for a known quantity like Lebda. There is not really a lot of untapped potential or upside. Lilja and Salei are two guys I'd put in the lineup over Lebda, and they're both making less than a million.

I just really dont' understand this signing for that much money. If they hoped he would fulfill a larger role and then realized how limited he was, or what.

You think they would have learned that lesson with Jeff Finger.

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I hear ya, but honestly I think it's a lot for a known quantity like Lebda. There is not really a lot of untapped potential or upside. Lilja and Salei are two guys I'd put in the lineup over Lebda, and they're both making less than a million.

I just really dont' understand this signing for that much money. If they hoped he would fulfill a larger role and then realized how limited he was, or what.

My only theory that could justify the signing was that they thought Kaberle was gone and they felt they needed a guy for the powerplay and couldn't wait to see if Kaberle was going to be dealt or not.

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From Toronto Star:

The Maple Leafs are officially in trouble.

They lost 3-2 to the Ottawa Senators, their GM called some fans “a disgrace” for booing, and their captain — the object of such boos — is now out with a cut leg and doubtful for Wednesday’s game against the Washington Capitals.

“He’s got a cut on his leg and it was deep enough that they wanted to take him to the hospital to determine the extent of his injuries,” said coach Ron Wilson. “We have Brett Lebda ready to jump in. We’ll just go from there.

...

I'm not sure if Mr. McGran's initial statement refers to Phaneuf's injury or...

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And Lebda just coughed up the puck at his own blue line, surrendering a breakaway to Marcel Goc who beats Giggy.

Worst part is that it was a SHG. Lebda shouldn't be seeing any PP time.

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I hear ya, but honestly I think it's a lot for a known quantity like Lebda. There is not really a lot of untapped potential or upside. Lilja and Salei are two guys I'd put in the lineup over Lebda, and they're both making less than a million.

I just really dont' understand this signing for that much money. If they hoped he would fulfill a larger role and then realized how limited he was, or what.

Salei actually makes $1.1m, but that's still less than Lebda.

A few names from around the NHL with sub-$1m contracts who are better than Lebda. Entry level contracts are not included:

Paul Mara

Mark Giordano

Nick Boynton

Kyle Cumiskey

Andy Greene

Ryan Parent

And from the Wings:

Jonathan Ericsson

Jakub Kindl

Derek Meech

Doug Janik

There's plenty more out there making less than a million who are above, at, or close to Lebda's level. Lebda being signed for that much is an atrocious overpayment. He's getting probably more than twice what he should.

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Salei actually makes $1.1m, but that's still less than Lebda.

A few names from around the NHL with sub-$1m contracts who are better than Lebda. Entry level contracts are not included:

Paul Mara

Mark Giordano

Nick Boynton

Kyle Cumiskey

Andy Greene

Ryan Parent

And from the Wings:

Jonathan Ericsson

Jakub Kindl

Derek Meech

Doug Janik

There's plenty more out there making less than a million who are above, at, or close to Lebda's level. Lebda being signed for that much is an atrocious overpayment. He's getting probably more than twice what he should.

I dont know about Meech. Lebda held down an NHL job with the wings at least. Meech did nothing except lose us Quincy (along with Chelios)

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I dont know about Meech. Lebda held down an NHL job with the wings at least. Meech did nothing except lose us Quincy (along with Chelios)

Meech and Lebda play a similar style of game, except that Meech actually knows about the defensive zone and can play defensively if necessary. The main reason Meech never took Lebda's spot is that the two were so similar, and the two were always close enough that it wasn't going to just be handed over to Meech.

As for Quincey; Meech did lose us Quincey, but only because Meech outplayed Quincey consistently while they were together in our system.

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not sure if this was posted or not.

http://mapleleafs.nh...s.htm?id=541123

“As the year goes on I hope to get more time and get more comfortable with the unit. It’s something that I think I can help the team with.”

What are you going to help the team with?

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What are you going to help the team with?

Lebda?

He can help them on how to look more like a stereotypical shopping mall abercrombie wanna be ******.

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