edicius 3,269 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) If a team like New Jersey or even the Isles claims him, I would have to get the feeling that there's more going on here than meets the eye. Nabby wants a starting gig, according to Meehan's letter, was it? There's no way in hell he's getting that in Jersey with Brodeur. Even with Brodeur playing like garbage, Hedberg didn't get nearly the amount of starts he should have. And in New York...well, DiPietro's their starter for the next decade or whatever, so that's not happening either. Holland's got some idea of what's going on though and that's why he's the GM and we're not. EDIT: And just like that... @Ledger_NJDevils: GM Lou Lamoriello says Devils will not put in a claim for goalie Evgeni Nabokov. Edited January 21, 2011 by edicius 1 Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 119 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 How can it not be a good move? Ozzy is injured for a significant time (maybe whole year). Nabokov > JMac or anyone else in GR. Nabokov may rediscover his form from just a year ago and play like one of the best goalies in the league. And won't have to play 70 games before a playoff run to do it.... last 3 years in the NHL he played 77 , 61 , 71 games...then tried to carry them to a Stanley Cup. That is ALOT of hockey for a goalie. (as long as your name is not Brodeur) EDIT: And just like that... one down..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 my guess is that he's taking his talent to south beach. +1, I belted out quite the laugh when i read this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 119 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 New JerseyEdmonton NY Islanders Ottawa Toronto Calgary Buffalo Florida Columbus Los Angeles San Jose Carolina Atlanta St. Louis Minnesota Anaheim Chicago Phoenix Colorado NY Rangers Montreal Nashville Washington Tampa Bay Boston Pittsburgh Dallas Detroit Philadelphia Vancouver Make it easy this is the waiver order I believe for Nabby! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F2B&G 15 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Make it easy this is the waiver order I believe for Nabby! Even though Philly and Vancouver are unlikely to claim him, I believe they would have the option to before he comes here, since we're the ones trying to pass him through waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Have any teams been ruled out? I mean It's been a Hour... How long can it take to say Yes or No? the suspense is killing me! Cause you can say no up until the 11th hour and then say yes and all is forgotten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Cause you can say no up until the 11th hour and then say yes and all is forgotten. I can see little advantage to saying you won't claim him, then doing so. I also doubt Lou spoke without the team first making it's decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricky0034 89 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 I wouldn't be too excited over teams like New Jersey passing on him if I were you guys there's no realistic way he makes it all the way through so the more teams pass on him the better team he will end up on in the end the best realistic outcome for this would be him ending up on an eastern conference bottom feeder(or Edmonton since the Wings only play them one more time this year and they won't make the playoffs) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Maybe someone claims him at 11:59 AM tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Even though Philly and Vancouver are unlikely to claim him, I believe they would have the option to before he comes here, since we're the ones trying to pass him through waivers. I may be wrong, but I think the waiver order is based on standings. So Philly and Vancouver would not get a chance to claim him since they are ahead of us in the standings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricky0034 89 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 lol I told myself yesterday I was done speculating on this but this post gives me hope again post from Hfboards: Originally Posted by danishh yeah, just checked article 11 for clarity, but none. 'league outside NA' is only referenced in 13.23, and there it is worded "cannot play". Technically speaking, as KDB clarified, the spc is in effect, but nabby cannot play until after waivers. NMC wording is ambiguous in the CBA. It says a player can block movement by 'waiver claim'. Literally speaking, the player can be placed on waivers involuntarily, but may reject the move once claimed. this may actually be kenny's loophole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evanbartlett 6 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 I may be wrong, but I think the waiver order is based on standings. So Philly and Vancouver would not get a chance to claim him since they are ahead of us in the standings. I believe it does go by order of standings. However, I believe given the circumstances Philly and Vancouver still get a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 I believe it does go by order of standings. However, I believe given the circumstances Philly and Vancouver still get a chance. You are correct. Vancouver and Philly both have the option of claiming Nabokov off waivers and have higher priority than us, because we are the ones who put him on waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 119 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Cause you can say no up until the 11th hour and then say yes and all is forgotten. pretty much! I don't know why I am so attached to this....WE WILL NOT GET HIM! can't......................stay...........................away...........................must...........................check...........................in! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadaBoy 151 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 2.5 hours passed, no one has claimed him yet! >mfw there are over 150 people viewing this thread 1 Barrie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Maybe someone claims him at 11:59 AM tomorrow. It doesn't matter if someone claims him now, or at 11:59am tomorrow. We won't hear until 1pm. The only thing we will hear until then is speculation and teams saying that they won't claim him. This is because it's not a "who claims him first situation". Teams make a claim (anytime between now and noon tomorrow), then wait till 12noon tomorrow to hear from the NHL if they get him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 2.5 hours passed, no one has claimed him yet! >mfw there are over 150 people viewing this thread We won't know for sure until tomorrow noon. All the teams have 24 hours to submit their interest in Nabokov, then tomorrow at noon the league looks at what team is the lowest in the standings. For all we know 15 teams could have submitted their "claim" already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Cause you can say no up until the 11th hour and then say yes and all is forgotten. So it's not like this certain time block is reserved for X team and X team has to claim him within that time block if they want him otherwise they've lost their chance to claim him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 2.5 hours passed, no one has claimed him yet! I thought someone said that all interested teams submit interest and then league looks over all and awards him to the lowest team ... that means there's no use checking every hour. No decision until noon tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din758 371 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) pretty much! I don't know why I am so attached to this....WE WILL NOT GET HIM! can't......................stay...........................away...........................must...........................check...........................in! glad im not the only person feeling this way. perfect situation for tomorrow: 11:30 - Arrive at Nemo's and order my first crown and coke. 11:50 - Smoke 4 cigarettes and finish my 3rd crown/coke because im so nervous about the nabby deal 12pm - Find out Nabby is a wing and take at least one shot. 1:50pm - Ride on Nemo's shuttle almost over and when slamming 5th crown/coke I nearly puke. 2:30-4:10 - Blackout period 4:45 - Wings win 18 to -4, I walk out of the Joe singing "The good ole hockey game" song. 6pm - I lose my entire paycheck at MGM but dont care because wings won 7pm - Get a few dances from my favorite girl at Bazoukis, Pocahontas. Cant wait for tomorrow! Edited January 21, 2011 by Din758 4 acidroach420, cupforwings, HankthaTank and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Seeing as how NJ is the lowest team right now, did you see how this deal made Brodeur play a bit better and shut out the Penguins! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 lol I told myself yesterday I was done speculating on this but this post gives me hope again post from Hfboards: Originally Posted by danishh yeah, just checked article 11 for clarity, but none. 'league outside NA' is only referenced in 13.23, and there it is worded "cannot play". Technically speaking, as KDB clarified, the spc is in effect, but nabby cannot play until after waivers. NMC wording is ambiguous in the CBA. It says a player can block movement by 'waiver claim'. Literally speaking, the player can be placed on waivers involuntarily, but may reject the move once claimed. this may actually be kenny's loophole. So wait, let me see if I'm getting this right...theoretically, Nabby could just say "No thanks" to any team that claims him, right up until the end when Detroit is the last team standing...at which point he says, "Okay, I'm cool with this claim"? I mean, if this interpretation of the CBA is correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadaBoy 151 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) Rule 18.18b A no-move clause may prevent the involuntary relocation of a Player, whether by Trade, Loan or Waiver claim. A no-move clause, however, may not restrict the Club's buy-out and termination rights as set forth in this Agreement. Prior to exercising its Ordinary Course Buy-Out rights pursuant to Paragraph 13 of the SPC hereof, the Club shall, in writing in accordance with the notice provisions in Exhibit 3 hereof, provide the Player with the option of electing to be placed on Waivers. The Player will have twenty-four (24) hours from the time he receives such notice to accept or reject that option at his sole discretion, and shall so inform the Club in writing, in accordance with the notice provisions in Exhibit 3 hereof, within such twenty-four (24) hour period. If the Player does not timely accept or reject that option, it will be deemed rejected. >mfw Edited January 21, 2011 by CanadaBoy 1 Original-Six reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 How would it be doing the Wings a Favor if NJ did pick up Nabokov from wiavers than put him back on. I'm not quite sure I get that. Wouldn't it just be easier to let the Wings just get him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 glad im not the only person feeling this way. perfect situation for tomorrow: 11:30 - Arrive at Nemo's and order my first crown and coke. 11:50 - Smoke 4 cigarettes and finish my 3rd crown/coke because im so nervous about the nabby deal 12pm - Find out Nabby is a wing and take at least one shot. 1:50pm - Ride on Nemo's shuttle almost over and when slamming 5th crown/coke I nearly puke. 2:30-4:10 - Blackout period 4:45 - Wings win 18 to -4, I walk out of the Joe singing "The good ole hockey game" song. 6pm - I lose my entire paycheck at MGM but dont care because wings won 7pm - Get a few dances from my favorite girl at Bazoukis, Pocahontas. Cant wait for tomorrow! Meet me at Nemo's? ha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
