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has anyone looked through nabbys agents clients and seen who is going to be a free agent at the end of the season?

The way i see it, if nabby doesnt end up a wing, his agent owes us a favor (because getting nabby back in the NHL is cash in his pocket as well) and could maybe convince a player he represents to to resign and come to the wings.

all that aside, i really dont see him becoming a wing.

He basically represents everyone LOL

Justin Abdelkader, Detroit Red Wings

Luke Adam, Buffalo Sabres

Colby Armstrong, Toronto Maple Leafs

Jason Arnott, New Jersey Devils

Alex Auld, Montreal Canadiens

Keith Aulie, Toronto Maple Leafs

Sean Avery, New York Rangers

Dave Backes, St. Louis Blues

Josh Bailey, New York Islanders

Jay Beagle, Washington Capitals

Todd Bertuzzi, Detroit Red Wings

Paul Bissonnette, Phoenix Coyotes

Francis Bouillon, Nashville Predators

Drayson Bowman, Carolina Hurricanes

Dustin Boyd, Montreal Canadiens

Darryl Boyce, Toronto Maple Leafs

Tyler Bozak, Toronto Maple Leafs

Tim Brent, Toronto Maple Leafs

Eric Brewer, St. Louis Blues

Mike Brodeur, Ottawa Senators

Troy Brouwer, Chicago Blackhawks

Ilya Bryzgalov, Phoenix Coyotes

Gregory Campbell, Boston Bruins

Luca Caputi, Toronto Maple Leafs

Daniel Carcillo, Philadelphia Flyers

Brett Carson, Carolina Hurricanes

Erik Christensen, New York Rangers

David Clarkson, New Jersey Devils

Cal Clutterbuck. Minnesota Wild

Mike Commodore, Columbus Blue Jackets

Matt Cooke, Pittsburgh Penguins

Matt Corrente, New Jersey Devils

Ryan Craig, Tampa Bay Lightning

Matt Cullen, Minnesota Wild

Michael Del Zotto, New York Rangers

Drew Doughty, Los Angeles Kings

Jordan Eberle, Edmonton Oilers

Matt Ellis, Buffalo Sabres

Steve Eminger, New York Rangers

Jonathan Ericsson, Detroit Red Wings

John Erskine, Washington Capitals

Justin Falk, Minnesota Wild

Eric Fehr, Washington Capitals

Nikita Filatov. Columbus Blue Jackets

Nick Foligno, Ottawa Senators

Alexander Frolov, New York Rangers

Dan Girardi, New York Rangers

Tim Gleason, Carolina Hurricanes

Mike Green, Washington Capitals

Matt Greene, Los Angeles Kings

Nicklas Grossman, Dallas Stars

Matt Halischuk, Nashville Predators

Dan Hamhuis, Vancouver Canucks

Travis Hamonic, New York Islanders

Scott Hannan, Washington Capitals

Martin Hanzal, Phoenix Coyotes

Josh Harding, Minnesota Wild

Kristian Huselius, Columbus Blue Jackets

Patric Hornqvist, Nashville Predators

Jarome Iginla, Calgary Flames

Ed Jovanovski, Phoenix Coyotes

Ryan Jones, Edmonton Oilers

Erik Karlsson, Ottawa Senators

Evander Kane, Atlanta Thrashers

Chris Kelly, Ottawa Senators

Phil Kessel, Toronto Maple Leafs

Andrei Kostitsyn, Montreal Canadiens

Sergei Kostitsyn, Nashville Predators

Maxim Lapierre, Anaheim Ducks

Chad LaRose, Carolina Hurricanes

Pascal LeClaire, Ottawa Senators

Brian Lee, Ottawa Senators

David Legwand, Nashville Predators

Robin Lehner, Ottawa Senators

Trevor Lewis. Los Angeles Kings

Nicklas Lidström, Detroit Red Wings

Henrik Lundqvist, New York Rangers

Derek MacKenzie, Columbus Blue Jackets

Peter Mannino, Atlanta Thrashers

Brad Marchand. Boston Bruins

Andrei Markov, Montreal Canadiens

Matt Martin, New York Islanders

Shawn Matthias, Florida Panthers

Jay McKee, Pittsburgh Penguins

Brandon McMillan, Anaheim Ducks

Brendan Mikkelson, Calgary Flames

Fredrik Modin, Columbus Blue Jackets

Travis Moen, Montreal Canadiens

Ethan Moreau, Columbus Blue Jackets

Matt Moulson, New York Islanders

Chris Mueller, Nashville Predators

Evgeni Nabokov, SKA St. Petersburg (Formerly San Jose Sharks)

James Neal, Dallas Stars

Kris Newbury, New York Rangers

Eric Nystrom, Minnesota Wild

Johnny Oduya, Atlanta Thrashers

Cal O'Reilly, Nashville Predators

Ryan O'Reilly, Colorado Avalanche

Patrick O'Sullivan, Minnesota Wild

Nathan Oystrick, St. Louis Blues

Zach Parise, New Jersey Devils

Jeff Petry, Edmonton Oilers

Corey Perry, Anaheim Ducks

Dion Phaneuf, Toronto Maple Leafs

Alex Pietrangelo, St. Louis Blues

Chris Pronger, Philadelphia Flyers

Brandon Prust, New York Rangers

Kyle Quincey, Colorado Avalanche

Wade Redden, New York Rangers

Mike Ribeiro, Dallas Stars

Brad Richards, Dallas Stars

Mike Richards, Philadelphia Flyers

Brad Richardson, Los Angeles Kings

Craig Rivet, Buffalo Sabres

Bryan Rodney, Carolina Hurricanes

Bobby Ryan, Anaheim Ducks

Mike Santorelli, Florida Panthers

Luke Schenn, Toronto Maple Leafs

James Sheppard, Minnesota Wild

Rob Schremp, New York Islanders

Jody Shelley, Philadelphia Flyers

Ryan Smyth, Los Angeles Kings

Nick Spaling, Nashville Predators

Steve Staios, Calgary Flames

Matt Stajan, Calgary Flames

Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning

Viktor Stalberg, Chicago Blackhawks

Jarret Stoll, Los Angeles Kings

Jason Strudwick, Edmonton Oilers

PK Subban, Montreal Canadiens

Andy Sutton, Anaheim Ducks

Brandon Sutter, Carolina Hurricanes

Danny Syvret, Philadelphia Flyers

Henrik Tallinder, New Jersey Devils

Matt Taormina, New Jersey Devils

José Théodore, Minnesota Wild

Ole-Kristian Tollefsen, Philadelphia Flyers

Jordin Tootoo, Nashville Predators

Tom Wandell, Dallas Stars

Shea Weber, Nashville Predators

Stephen Weiss, Florida Panthers

Jeremy Williams, New York Rangers

Ryan Wilson, Colorado Avalanche

Daniel Winnik, Colorado Avalanche

Jeff Woywitka, Dallas Stars

Nolan Yonkman, Phoenix Coyotes

Mats Zuccarello-Aasen, New York Rangers

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!!!Drew Doughty, Los Angeles Kings!!!

All rumors have come full circle, this is obvious posturing for the signing of Doughty, after Meehan tells the KINGS to be afraid of matching the offer sheet!

g'night i'ts getting too crazy, one more theory and I will pop.

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Quick question, would New Jersey get him as soon as they put a claim on him because they are in last spot and no one could trump them or would it still have to be the 24 hour period until they did

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Quick question, would New Jersey get him as soon as they put a claim on him because they are in last spot and no one could trump them or would it still have to be the 24 hour period until they did

Have to wait.

24 hours is so all teams can enter their claim, and then at the end of the 24 hours the lowest gets it, there will be a "winner" at 12:01 pm Saturday.

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BTW, I think McKenzie was wrong when he said Detroit would get first pick if he was put on Waivers again.

Thx to those who corrected me on the error of my waiver ways. Popular misconception even amongst some NHL management types. #IamadopeLOL

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He basically represents everyone LOL

Justin Abdelkader, Detroit Red Wings

Luke Adam, Buffalo Sabres

Colby Armstrong, Toronto Maple Leafs

Jason Arnott, New Jersey Devils

Alex Auld, Montreal Canadiens

Keith Aulie, Toronto Maple Leafs

Sean Avery, New York Rangers

Dave Backes, St. Louis Blues

Josh Bailey, New York Islanders

Jay Beagle, Washington Capitals

Todd Bertuzzi, Detroit Red Wings

Paul Bissonnette, Phoenix Coyotes

Francis Bouillon, Nashville Predators

Drayson Bowman, Carolina Hurricanes

Dustin Boyd, Montreal Canadiens

Darryl Boyce, Toronto Maple Leafs

Tyler Bozak, Toronto Maple Leafs

Tim Brent, Toronto Maple Leafs

Eric Brewer, St. Louis Blues

Mike Brodeur, Ottawa Senators

Troy Brouwer, Chicago Blackhawks

Ilya Bryzgalov, Phoenix Coyotes

Gregory Campbell, Boston Bruins

Luca Caputi, Toronto Maple Leafs

Daniel Carcillo, Philadelphia Flyers

Brett Carson, Carolina Hurricanes

Erik Christensen, New York Rangers

David Clarkson, New Jersey Devils

Cal Clutterbuck. Minnesota Wild

Mike Commodore, Columbus Blue Jackets

Matt Cooke, Pittsburgh Penguins

Matt Corrente, New Jersey Devils

Ryan Craig, Tampa Bay Lightning

Matt Cullen, Minnesota Wild

Michael Del Zotto, New York Rangers

Drew Doughty, Los Angeles Kings

Jordan Eberle, Edmonton Oilers

Matt Ellis, Buffalo Sabres

Steve Eminger, New York Rangers

Jonathan Ericsson, Detroit Red Wings

John Erskine, Washington Capitals

Justin Falk, Minnesota Wild

Eric Fehr, Washington Capitals

Nikita Filatov. Columbus Blue Jackets

Nick Foligno, Ottawa Senators

Alexander Frolov, New York Rangers

Dan Girardi, New York Rangers

Tim Gleason, Carolina Hurricanes

Mike Green, Washington Capitals

Matt Greene, Los Angeles Kings

Nicklas Grossman, Dallas Stars

Matt Halischuk, Nashville Predators

Dan Hamhuis, Vancouver Canucks

Travis Hamonic, New York Islanders

Scott Hannan, Washington Capitals

Martin Hanzal, Phoenix Coyotes

Josh Harding, Minnesota Wild

Kristian Huselius, Columbus Blue Jackets

Patric Hornqvist, Nashville Predators

Jarome Iginla, Calgary Flames

Ed Jovanovski, Phoenix Coyotes

Ryan Jones, Edmonton Oilers

Erik Karlsson, Ottawa Senators

Evander Kane, Atlanta Thrashers

Chris Kelly, Ottawa Senators

Phil Kessel, Toronto Maple Leafs

Andrei Kostitsyn, Montreal Canadiens

Sergei Kostitsyn, Nashville Predators

Maxim Lapierre, Anaheim Ducks

Chad LaRose, Carolina Hurricanes

Pascal LeClaire, Ottawa Senators

Brian Lee, Ottawa Senators

David Legwand, Nashville Predators

Robin Lehner, Ottawa Senators

Trevor Lewis. Los Angeles Kings

Nicklas Lidström, Detroit Red Wings

Henrik Lundqvist, New York Rangers

Derek MacKenzie, Columbus Blue Jackets

Peter Mannino, Atlanta Thrashers

Brad Marchand. Boston Bruins

Andrei Markov, Montreal Canadiens

Matt Martin, New York Islanders

Shawn Matthias, Florida Panthers

Jay McKee, Pittsburgh Penguins

Brandon McMillan, Anaheim Ducks

Brendan Mikkelson, Calgary Flames

Fredrik Modin, Columbus Blue Jackets

Travis Moen, Montreal Canadiens

Ethan Moreau, Columbus Blue Jackets

Matt Moulson, New York Islanders

Chris Mueller, Nashville Predators

Evgeni Nabokov, SKA St. Petersburg (Formerly San Jose Sharks)

James Neal, Dallas Stars

Kris Newbury, New York Rangers

Eric Nystrom, Minnesota Wild

Johnny Oduya, Atlanta Thrashers

Cal O'Reilly, Nashville Predators

Ryan O'Reilly, Colorado Avalanche

Patrick O'Sullivan, Minnesota Wild

Nathan Oystrick, St. Louis Blues

Zach Parise, New Jersey Devils

Jeff Petry, Edmonton Oilers

Corey Perry, Anaheim Ducks

Dion Phaneuf, Toronto Maple Leafs

Alex Pietrangelo, St. Louis Blues

Chris Pronger, Philadelphia Flyers

Brandon Prust, New York Rangers

Kyle Quincey, Colorado Avalanche

Wade Redden, New York Rangers

Mike Ribeiro, Dallas Stars

Brad Richards, Dallas Stars

Mike Richards, Philadelphia Flyers

Brad Richardson, Los Angeles Kings

Craig Rivet, Buffalo Sabres

Bryan Rodney, Carolina Hurricanes

Bobby Ryan, Anaheim Ducks

Mike Santorelli, Florida Panthers

Luke Schenn, Toronto Maple Leafs

James Sheppard, Minnesota Wild

Rob Schremp, New York Islanders

Jody Shelley, Philadelphia Flyers

Ryan Smyth, Los Angeles Kings

Nick Spaling, Nashville Predators

Steve Staios, Calgary Flames

Matt Stajan, Calgary Flames

Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning

Viktor Stalberg, Chicago Blackhawks

Jarret Stoll, Los Angeles Kings

Jason Strudwick, Edmonton Oilers

PK Subban, Montreal Canadiens

Andy Sutton, Anaheim Ducks

Brandon Sutter, Carolina Hurricanes

Danny Syvret, Philadelphia Flyers

Henrik Tallinder, New Jersey Devils

Matt Taormina, New Jersey Devils

José Théodore, Minnesota Wild

Ole-Kristian Tollefsen, Philadelphia Flyers

Jordin Tootoo, Nashville Predators

Tom Wandell, Dallas Stars

Shea Weber, Nashville Predators

Stephen Weiss, Florida Panthers

Jeremy Williams, New York Rangers

Ryan Wilson, Colorado Avalanche

Daniel Winnik, Colorado Avalanche

Jeff Woywitka, Dallas Stars

Nolan Yonkman, Phoenix Coyotes

Mats Zuccarello-Aasen, New York Rangers

I saw the list, i was specifically wondering who is going to be a UFA at the end of this season or next season.

While i know my original idea is a huge long shot, its still a interesting thing to think about.

*more conspiracy*

this move is just posturing to get a legit #1 d-man after lids retires.

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BTW, I think McKenzie was wrong when he said Detroit would get first pick if he was put on Waivers again.

Was about to post this, but I had posted pages back that the waivers work the same, no matter what, lowest % team gets first choice.

Then McKenzie comes out of nowhere with 3 or 4 tweets and boom i'm back wondering what I missed in the CBA, only to find he is still using the old waiver rules, lol.

I saw the list, i was specifically wondering who is going to be a UFA at the end of this season or next season.

While i know my original idea is a huge long shot, its still a interesting thing to think about.

*more conspiracy*

this move is just posturing to get a legit #1 d-man after lids retires.

I threw the Drew Doughty idea out there last page :P

I think 90% of LGW fans would have no objection to this, but the conspiracy vs. the reality is fading, likely we get neither Nabokov or anything at this point.

If we do get Nabby, then agent threats might just bring us Mr Doughty. Frolov didn't stay, there must be something wrong there, but this is all wild speculation.

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Ok, so with Datsyuk, Draper, Ozzie, and Clary's LTIR this season, the Wings have $2.3 million in capspace available this season.

Why couldn't they offer him a couple million for the year? Pro-rated to the 30-some games left.I think they weren't able to offer him that much, but I don't know why.

I think there is a 20-30% chance he clears waivers. Teams like EDM have the Bulin Wall and Dubnyk, what happens if they pick up another goalie? NJ has Brodeur and Hedberg. I guess the team to look out for is the Islanders since they don't really have any goalies :scared:

Tampa Bay might be willing to dump Ellis or Smith for Nabokov. I wonder if Yzerman is going to gamble on Nabokov (good gamble in my book).

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Ok, so with Datsyuk, Draper, Ozzie, and Clary's LTIR this season, the Wings have $2.3 million in capspace available this season.

Why couldn't they offer him a couple million for the year? Pro-rated to the 30-some games left.I think they weren't able to offer him that much, but I don't know why.

I think there is a 20-30% chance he clears waivers. Teams like EDM have the Bulin Wall and Dubnyk, what happens if they pick up another goalie? NJ has Brodeur and Hedberg. I guess the team to look out for is the Islanders since they don't really have any goalies :scared:

Tampa Bay might be willing to dump Ellis or Smith for Nabokov. I wonder if Yzerman is going to gamble on Nabokov (good gamble in my book).

because ur initial premise is wrong

they dont just get free cap space coz of injuries

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I thought they could go over the cap by that amount? What is the point of putting a player on LTIR and saving some money against the cap?

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Ok, so with Datsyuk, Draper, Ozzie, and Clary's LTIR this season, the Wings have $2.3 million in capspace available this season.

Why couldn't they offer him a couple million for the year? Pro-rated to the 30-some games left.I think they weren't able to offer him that much, but I don't know why.

I think there is a 20-30% chance he clears waivers. Teams like EDM have the Bulin Wall and Dubnyk, what happens if they pick up another goalie? NJ has Brodeur and Hedberg. I guess the team to look out for is the Islanders since they don't really have any goalies :scared:

Tampa Bay might be willing to dump Ellis or Smith for Nabokov. I wonder if Yzerman is going to gamble on Nabokov (good gamble in my book).

LTIR isn't banked.

The Players on LTIR, their contracts are essential null and as if they aren't even on the team. Once they come off LTIR, their contract is back on as if the player wa son the team since day one. Which is why if you have a player making 2mil, and he is injured exactly half way through the season, we have 1 mil to work with. The player gets healthy, now we have to clear that 1mil to activate him to the roster.

I thought they could go over the cap by that amount? What is the point of putting a player on LTIR and saving some money against the cap?

Because you aren't saving. It's like you're getting a credit card with a spending limit up to that players contract. That credit card has a 0% interest rate and needs to be paid off exactly the moment you want to activate your LTIR player.

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That's bad news haha, thanks for explaining it. Wings had to offer Nabokov almost league minimum! What a joke.

All we can hope for is that teams are handicapped with 2 goalies on the roster. Or cap issues: there are 5 other teams right up against the cap, and 5 more with only a few hundred thousand left.

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I doubt he will make it... but if you wanna speculate another goalie coming back to return to the NHL....

hasek has been playing great in the KHL ;)

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Well, I'm enjoying seeing that "Nabokov to Wings" pic on NHL.com while it lasts, but here today, gone tomorrow, unfortunately. I hope we get SOMETHING out of this, whatever it is.

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Right. I'm actually shocked that anyone here thinks the Wings have given up on Howard. He's only 26 and, despite a couple shaky months, is one of the best young goalies in the game. Ozzie's retiring after this year, Nabokov, at 35, is Osgood's replacement, Howard's going no where!

So what will NJ get in return?

Fined? :P

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This guy would be an amazing addition. He is only 35 and left the NHL on a very good season. Over 10 NHL years with the Sharks his save percentage has been below .900 once and under .910 one additional time. Career totals of 0.912 regular season and believe it 0.913 post-season.

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If this in any way turns into a situation where Nabokov is actually a Wing, what I'm hearing is that the Wings are not happy with Howard and he's unlikely to get much of a raise next year if even he returns at all. It would be a bit of a bulls*** move if you ask me. I know Jimmy hasn't been playing well this year, but I think that's largely due to mismanagement of his development over the last year. It just seems lame to set him up to fall apart and then to seemingly give up on him when he does indeed fall apart. It's one thing with Osgood as there's a relationship and support system installed already whereas it's clear that Nabokov would be coming in because we've got a mess on our hands right now. Even if it's just to try and push Howard, it just seems like a dumb move. Granted, who knows what's really going on, but something about this whole thing is fishy to me.

Fishy? Why? Don't forget Holland is an ex-goaltender that managed the whole Hasek/Cujo debacle and let Osgood go as well. I'm not surprised. Jimmy has been spoon fed to where he is today.

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I doubt he will make it... but if you wanna speculate another goalie coming back to return to the NHL....

hasek has been playing great in the KHL ;)

hasek >> anyone else

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I really just want to wake up Tom. And just see mckenzie and dreger twittering that all is quiet on the nabby subject... Silence is a good thing... Maybe if we all stop talking about it all the other GM's will forget lol

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More talks about a possible deal with NJ

http://twitter.com/wharnscbcsports

I guess my issue with making a deal to put Nabby back on waivers is that the NHL might suspect circumvention, which may lead to a fine, loss of draft picks, etc.

edit: actually I came across this bit of info at hfboards, which DEBUNKS THE RUMOR THAT WINGS GET FIRST DIBS SHOULD NABBY BE PLACED ON WAIVERS AGAIN:

"That is the default rule for Waivers (Article 13.20(b)). If a player is claimed on Waivers and the claiming team wants to trade him during the remainder of that season - he has to be offered at waiver price to any team which put in an unsuccessful lower priority waiver claim.

In this case, that is superseded by 13.23 which explicitly states that in the case of a player who was waived due to playing overseas (Svatos, Wellwood, Nabby, etc) and was claimed, then he has to clear a new round of Waivers (where any team can make a claim) before he can be traded."

In short, if Holland is pulling some strings behind the scenes, the end result won't be Nabby in Detroit, unless its next year. There may be something going on where some team picks up Nabokov, then trades the Wings their backup to make room.

Edited by Echolalia

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It's a plot. A plan, a scheme, a design, a tarp.

Nabby is only the first. He gets claimed, and then it will be Emery, then another, then another, until every team under us has either passed on or claimed a goalie. Then- and only then- will Holland come out with his true objective. Hasek. And he will be ours! All ours! Mwahahahahahaha.

Edited by 55fan

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It's a plot. A plan, a scheme, a design, a tarp.

Nabby is only the first. He gets claimed, and then it will be Emery, then another, then another, until every team under us has either passed on or claimed a goalie. Then- and only then- will Holland come out with his true objective. Hasek. And he will be ours! All ours! Mwahahahahahaha.

this will happen in the last minute of the trade dead line day.

these forums will explode.

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Ok, so with Datsyuk, Draper, Ozzie, and Clary's LTIR this season, the Wings have $2.3 million in capspace available this season.

Why couldn't they offer him a couple million for the year? Pro-rated to the 30-some games left.I think they weren't able to offer him that much, but I don't know why.

I think there is a 20-30% chance he clears waivers. Teams like EDM have the Bulin Wall and Dubnyk, what happens if they pick up another goalie? NJ has Brodeur and Hedberg. I guess the team to look out for is the Islanders since they don't really have any goalies :scared:

Tampa Bay might be willing to dump Ellis or Smith for Nabokov. I wonder if Yzerman is going to gamble on Nabokov (good gamble in my book).

Datsyuk is the only player on LTIR. Just because they have long term injuries doesn't mean they are automatically placed on the LTIR list.

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Fined? :P

How does that saying go, "In for a penny, in for a pound"?

Edit: I'm starting to think with everything put in his contract, and Nabokov probably refusing to report to any team but the Wings, he'll clear.

Should be interesting. Something else to follow this weekend with the NFL Playoffs and Wings-B.Hawks

Edited by Barrie

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