Well - Jagr could offer a verbal commitment, or a "gentlemans" agreement with 1 GM, or another...Dunno if that would violate anything since he's been outta the NHL for some time.Given the fact that he wouldn't be able to officially sign anywhere until July 1st, I don't see what the big deal is.
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Posted 24 June 2011 - 12:53 PM
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Posted 24 June 2011 - 01:42 PM
Yeah, when I heard he can't officially sign with anyone till July 1st, I thought, "So he'll just announce who he'll sign with whenever and then make it official on that day." It won't be a mystery on July 1st as to which team Jagr is playing for.
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Posted 24 June 2011 - 01:44 PM
I was under the understanding that he could sign sooner, since he wasn't already under contract and the July 1 date was more of a self imposed sign date... does anyone have a link to the section of the CBA that clears this up?Yeah, when I heard he can't officially sign with anyone till July 1st, I thought, "So he'll just announce who he'll sign with whenever and then make it official on that day." It won't be a mystery on July 1st as to which team Jagr is playing for.
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Posted 24 June 2011 - 02:01 PM
I would think it has less to do with the CBA & more to do with the transfer agreements in place between the NHL & the IIHF/KHL.I was under the understanding that he could sign sooner, since he wasn't already under contract and the July 1 date was more of a self imposed sign date... does anyone have a link to the section of the CBA that clears this up?
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Posted 24 June 2011 - 02:31 PM
I would think it has less to do with the CBA & more to do with the transfer agreements in place between the NHL & the IIHF/KHL.
No one in Russia cares about those transfer agreements
Sounds like this rule pertains to Jagr: 10.2b iiA2
the Player, having become a Defected Player
pursuant to Section 10.2(b)(i)(A), has become free
of any obligation to such unaffiliated club(s) or such
other professional hockey club(s) during the off
season and has not, prior to sixty (60) days
thereafter, entered into a valid SPC for a period
which includes the current and/or following season
for his services as a professional hockey player with
the Club with which he was last under SPC; or
As long as Bettman signs off on it, Jagr can sign before July 1st without having to pass through waivers.
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Posted 24 June 2011 - 04:23 PM
Now there are whispers that Detroit is out of it as they are uninterested in making a second offer.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
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Posted 24 June 2011 - 04:33 PM
I agree. Holland made his offer, if Jagr doesn't like it, oh well, Holland has better plans with that $16M than to give $4M of it to Jagr. Far better players out there to offer $3M-$4M to instead of and younger than Jagr... I am ok with him being a Red Wing, but only on Holland's terms. I'd rather see most of that cash spent on the Defense...Now there are whispers that Detroit is out of it as they are uninterested in making a second offer.
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Posted 24 June 2011 - 04:46 PM
Now there are whispers that Detroit is out of it as they are uninterested in making a second offer.
Hardball. I like it Holland.
Nice to see Holland taking a hard stance (if that is the case). With limited interest from NHL teams, he needs us more than we need him.
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I'm okay with it. I think he has grown up a lot during the past years.
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Posted 25 June 2011 - 11:02 AM
jagr has always been slow, I really don't think he can keep up with the NHL game anymore, remember when brett hull signed with phx and retired after a few games????
also i think babcock and jagr could not co-exist. babcock demands the most out of his players, jagr is lazy and always has been...
Babcock vs. Jagr would be epic.
Babcock doesn't appear to like Hudler too much, but at least Hudler works hard. When he doesn't, you get his performance the first couple months of last season. Jagr is the epitome of a floater who has always gotten by on natural talent. Which has worked fine, given his sick combination of strength, speed, and skill. But now he's 40. And still a floater. Doesn't have the same speed, skill is down... and he doesn't have that overpowering strength he once had.
Although why not sign Jagr and Vrbata, and we could have the best Czeching line in the league!
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Posted 25 June 2011 - 01:35 PM
Babcock vs. Jagr would be epic.
Babcock doesn't appear to like Hudler too much, but at least Hudler works hard. When he doesn't, you get his performance the first couple months of last season. Jagr is the epitome of a floater who has always gotten by on natural talent. Which has worked fine, given his sick combination of strength, speed, and skill. But now he's 40. And still a floater. Doesn't have the same speed, skill is down... and he doesn't have that overpowering strength he once had.
Although why not sign Jagr and Vrbata, and we could have the best Czeching line in the league!
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Posted 25 June 2011 - 08:53 PM
Good...if he doesn't want to come here, that doesn't break my heart in the least. Go back to s***sburgh where they want your sorry little ass and your attitude. Jagr will never fit in here - he can't park his ego at the door.
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Posted 25 June 2011 - 10:42 PM
The odds of a Jagr deal are decreasing by the minute. A trade would light a fire under the possibility, but the Wings don't seem to have anyone on the line.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
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Posted 25 June 2011 - 11:01 PM
Babcock vs. Jagr would be epic.
Babcock doesn't appear to like Hudler too much, but at least Hudler works hard. When he doesn't, you get his performance the first couple months of last season. Jagr is the epitome of a floater who has always gotten by on natural talent. Which has worked fine, given his sick combination of strength, speed, and skill. But now he's 40. And still a floater. Doesn't have the same speed, skill is down... and he doesn't have that overpowering strength he once had.
Although why not sign Jagr and Vrbata, and we could have the best Czeching line in the league!
Haha... Every f'n post...
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Posted 25 June 2011 - 11:02 PM
Please don't sign a guy who has scored 646 goals, 1,599 pts. in his whole Hockey career.
Please we didn't need goals in the playoffs.
He can still score. Sign him to a one year deal with bonuses.
Yes please don't sign him. We got Franzen......oh wait he gets hurt alot.
He would score 35 plus with Dats on his line.
Please we didn't need goals in the playoffs.
He can still score. Sign him to a one year deal with bonuses.
Yes please don't sign him. We got Franzen......oh wait he gets hurt alot.
He would score 35 plus with Dats on his line.
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:58 AM
For the right price I could see him sporting the Winged Wheel... but it would have to be closer to $2M than $3M. Though, to be fair, if it's a 1 year contract and given the drought in this years UFA pool they might as well throw in a bit more - Detroit could really use a scoring winger. The more I write, the further convinced I get 
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 10:40 AM
If he was being sarcastic, I could see the humor in it. But he's not. That's what worries me.
Come on Kenny, do your best Chris Matthews..."Let's play Hardball."
Come on Kenny, do your best Chris Matthews..."Let's play Hardball."
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 11:11 AM
there is a rumor we have offered one year 3.75M contract.
Sweet. This dude was brought here for one reason, to punch people in the head - every other thing that he can do, other Wings can do better. I like that we have a head-puncher. The league has other, better head-punchers, but this one is ours. Better than nothing. Good work, Kenny!
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there is a rumor we have offered one year 3.75M contract.
Any source for this rumor?
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