number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 Ovi or Dats? possibly Kovy? I think that pavel is clearly the best current russian player, and should be up there with soviet greats. yet the argument comes down to dats v. ovy. 2 different styles of play and different sets of skills though. ovi obviously makes more and scores more goals....but dats brings alot to the table 2. if dats had ovis size and muscle i think this would be a no brainer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 The glamorous pick is Ovechkin. Overall though, it's Datsyuk. Didn't Pav win some "Best Russian player" award recently? 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
germanwing 154 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 It´s the Kharlamov Trophy. Pav was awarded this year. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharlamov_Trophy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) The glamorous pick is Ovechkin. Overall though, it's Datsyuk. Didn't Pav win some "Best Russian player" award recently? yes lol. but it seems very easy to argue that ovi is better. ovi won the award the last 5 yrs in a row! Edited July 8, 2011 by number9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 ovi fell off last year. wonder if that will keep up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 ovi fell off last year. wonder if that will keep up... i think that was mainly the result of boudreau trying to make his team something its not....defensive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 "Did someone call me?" 2 Hockeymom1960 and hooon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 "Did someone call me?" More like, "Who call me?" "I need more shoot." 4 Datsyuk Fan, hooon, Doc Holliday and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James021 2 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 With Crosby injured I think you could make the case for Datsyuk being the best hockey player in the world. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 Best offensive: Ovi Best overall: Pavel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) Double post Edited July 8, 2011 by Wings_Dynasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 I don't put that much stock in the "best <insert country here> player" awards. I understand that the players vote for it, but Nick's only won the Viking Award for best Swedish player twice in his career. Gotta be something wrong there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 Hands down, Pasha. Ovi never shows up against the Wings and I hypothesize it has something to do with Lucky Number 13. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RusDRW 155 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 I'm a Russian and for me it is Dats, Malkin (just slightly worse), Kovalchuk and then goes Ovechkin. Perhaps A. Markov is ahead of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itchin' to go 16 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 As of right now, when healthy, Dats is best complete hockey player in the world. Thats regardless of what country. Ryan 1 Byorski reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted July 8, 2011 As of right now, when healthy, Dats is best complete hockey player in the world. Thats regardless of what country. Ryan ...AND regardless of Crosby being healthy or injured. Best COMPLETE hockey player. Period. (cue a carmen "Crosby Rules" reply) 1 Byorski reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest echos myron Report post Posted July 9, 2011 Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Semin Volchenkov - Markov Bryzgalov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dats13owns 157 Report post Posted July 9, 2011 Datsyuk is a perenial Selke candidate who does it all while providing highlight reel goals. He may never win a Hart, but I would rather have him on the ice for any situation than Ovi, Malkin or Kovi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robb himself 143 Report post Posted July 9, 2011 best all around is Datsyuk. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted July 9, 2011 I would say last year Datsyuk was the best russian player and maybe the best player in the world. Kinda like soccer where the best player in the world is always changing ever year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) Hands down, Pasha. Ovi never shows up against the Wings and I hypothesize it has something to do with Lucky Number 13. Are you sure it's not #40? Z, not Dats, almost always gets the big defensive assignment. ...AND regardless of Crosby being healthy or injured. Best COMPLETE hockey player. Period. (cue a carmen "Crosby Rules" reply) There's a definite argument for Zetterberg (my pick), and Iginla is also in there as a high-end complete player. Edited July 9, 2011 by eva unit zero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MulesWillFly93 199 Report post Posted July 9, 2011 Gee, what a hard choice; I just don't know who to pick! ...Yeah, it's all Dats. I like Ovechkin, but Datsyuk just plain owns - it's that simple. I could give technical details, but is it really necessary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 9, 2011 I'm a Russian and for me it is Dats, Malkin (just slightly worse), Kovalchuk and then goes Ovechkin. Perhaps A. Markov is ahead of him. markov over ovi????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted July 9, 2011 I'm a Russian and for me it is Dats, Malkin (just slightly worse), Kovalchuk and then goes Ovechkin. Perhaps A. Markov is ahead of him. Bryzgalov is clearly the best Russian player. He even said so. Anyhow... Malkin-Kovalchuk-Ovechkin? I think you have those three in reverse order. Ovechkin has been one of the league's elite player's since entering it. Kovalchuk has been among the league's top players for years. Malkin's scoring numbers are slightly better than Kovalchuk's and worse than Ovechkin's, but neither Kovy nor Ovi have had anyone anywhere near Crosby's talent level. Ovechkin has a strong team that has developed around him, but it is built around him and was not in place when he was drafted. Crosby was in Pittsburgh when Malkin arrived. The best Kovalchuk has had was a still-developing Heatley, and a somewhat experienced Hossa. That's two players who could be expected to put up strong performances. Crosby is a yearly Hart and Art Ross contender. Hossa and Heatley are not. The top ten Russians go in this order: Pavel Datsyuk Alex Ovechkin Ilya Bryzgalov Ilya Kovalchuk Evgeni Malkin Andrei Markov Alex Semin Sergei Gonchar Nik Kulemin Anton Volchenkov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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