Guest Save The Octopus Report post Posted December 2, 2011 I was reading through the latest issue of Sports Illustrated when I found this little tidbit: The default comparison for Crosby always has been Wayne Gretzky because of their on-ice vision. But his rightful antecedent actually might be Gordie Howe, who played with the same jagged edge. Just thought I would share. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chunkylover 26 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 He's probably more like Mario, but injuries kept his name from receiving the prestige it might otherwise have merited. High draft, immediate impact player, something of a whiner, injuries keep him out but dont affect him when he returns. 2 SaCkaveli20 and edicius reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 That's a blasphemous insult to Howe. 6 Jasper84, esteef, Electrophile and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 I saw the highlights from last night. Crosby got an elbow under the chin in a scrum at the side of the net. Right away he looked at the ref wanting a penalty. Wuss! Howe would just hit the guy back later in the game. 3 Jasper84, 55fan and edicius reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 I saw the highlights from last night. Crosby got an elbow under the chin in a scrum at the side of the net. Right away he looked at the ref wanting a penalty. Wuss! Howe would just hit the guy back later in the game. The refs need to protect him. We'll be denied his greatness if he re-strains his ****** and is out another 8 months. 4 Ally, edicius, Rick D and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 He has more in common with Gretzky than with Lemieux or Howe. Like Wayne, he wasn't the biggest or fastest player, but had an uncanny ability to outwork people for loose pucks and score tons of points. Also, Crosby is the best goal scorer in the league when healthy, despite the fact that I think of him as a pass first guy. Much like Wayne, who you don't think of as some pure goal scorer, yet he scored almost 900 in his career. And Wayne was also a pass first guy. He doesn't compare to Lemieux because of the size, or Howe because of how nasty Gordie played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) Sid's most obvious comparison to me is Peter Forsberg. I dont see Sid as a pure passer like Wayne was or a pure goal scorer like Mario. He just does everything well to go along with a butt-load determination. Edited December 2, 2011 by UP2HERE 2 Red Wings Addict and xtrememachine1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick D 390 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 goal + assist + crying to draw a penalty = Crosby hat-trick. 7 Hockeymom1960, edicius, Zeowingsfan and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 Crosby is exactly like Peter Forsberg. Offensive minded, excellent passer and playmaker, team leader, takes cheap shots at his opponent and then whines to the ref when the guy hits him back. 2 edicius and hillbillywingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) Crosby is exactly like Peter Forsberg. Offensive minded, excellent passer and playmaker, team leader, takes cheap shots at his opponent and then whines to the ref when the guy hits him back. Forsberg never scored more than 30 goals in a season. Crosby is the best goal scorer in hockey. Also, Forsberg was better defensively than Crosby is. They are both whiners and divers if that's all you meant. Edited December 2, 2011 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 I saw the highlights from last night. Crosby got an elbow under the chin in a scrum at the side of the net. Right away he looked at the ref wanting a penalty. Wuss! Howe would just hit the guy back later in the game. Exactly. When Howe looked at the ref, it was to find out if they called a penalty on him for the elbow he just threw, not whining expecting a call the other way. 3 Doc Holliday, edicius and Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 Honestly, Yzerman is a much closer comparison. Speed, grit with great playmaking plus goal scoring. 2 P. Marlowe and Heroes of Hockeytown reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jocke 53 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) Honestly, Yzerman is a much closer comparison. Speed, grit with great playmaking plus goal scoring. Yzerman is close. But I think this is an even closer comparison: Edited December 2, 2011 by Jocke 1 edicius reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 goal + assist + crying to draw a penalty = Crosby hat-trick. WIN! 2 Ally and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 goal + assist + crying to draw a penalty = Crosby hat-trick. Awesome, just awesome. 2 Rick D and edicius reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 As much I hate to admit it, the Yzerman comparison, at least when it comes to hockey abilities, is pretty valid. 2 haroldsnepsts and PrairieDawg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 As much I hate to admit it, the Yzerman comparison, at least when it comes to hockey abilities, is pretty valid. From a purely hockey ability standpoint I can grudgingly agree, but his extracurricular shenanigans like the pill punch and the gratuitous whining and diving early in his career nullify that to a large degree. Yzerman had far more class, imho. If the media didn't force feed him to us so much I think folks might be a bit less critical of him, and while it isn't necessarily his fault, it still is a factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 From a purely hockey ability standpoint I can grudgingly agree, but his extracurricular shenanigans like the pill punch and the gratuitous whining and diving early in his career nullify that to a large degree. Yzerman had far more class, imho. If the media didn't force feed him to us so much I think folks might be a bit less critical of him, and while it isn't necessarily his fault, it still is a factor. It's hard for me to judge in terms of the extracurricular shenanigans. I remember moments of Yzerman whining to the officials but when he did it he looked like he was really angry. Whenever Crosby complains to the officials, he really does have a whiny kind of face or look. That's just the observations I have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 I'd rather have Stamkos or Ovechkin playing alongside Zetterberg or Datsyuk than a team full of Crosby's... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted December 3, 2011 Newt Gingrich. Both are whiny pantloads. 1 edicius reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted December 3, 2011 Yzerman is close. But I think this is an even closer comparison: Except that kid can still grow a better playoff beard. 3 55fan, Jocke and edicius reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted December 3, 2011 If I were Gordie Howe, I think I'd hunt you down, slap you upside the head and ask what you've been smoking. What an insult to that man. 3 55fan, edicius and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted December 3, 2011 People forget what a dirty SOB Gordie was. Next time you hear an old-timer laughing about an opponent lying on the ice and only Gordie knew what had happened, just think about that for a minute. Of course in the days of only 1 ref and limited TV cameras, you could get away with that kind of thing. Not to forget that in those days, reputation was very important to how opponents treated you. Players were scared to give Gordie a sly slash or whatever, because they knew what would come their way later. Anyway, I think the Forsberg with more goals and less defence is a decent comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
