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[ozone923]

Couldn't post this in prospects, and I'm new, so if this is out of context let me know. Regardless, thought this poll would be a lot of fun. "Big" means elite.

I personally believe Nyquist, Jurco, Jarnkrok and Smith.


Anyone seen any of these guys play as a side question?

[SaCkaveli20]

At least one will be a star, mark my words.

[kylee]

Just Smith

[GMRwings1983]

When you say "elite", I think of star players, as in Datsyuk or Zetterberg.

Based on that, the safe answer is none.

[newfy]

Depends on the definition of elite but I think we have at least three guys with potential to be top notch guys. Smith, Nyquist and Jarnkrok. Smith will have that star status because of his play style, and will be come a fan favourite. He'll snipe on the PP than turn around next shift lay a guy out and beat the s*** out of that guys team mate trying to defend him.

[centcougar07]

Just Smith

Second that

[St. Michael (the Red Wing)]

At least one will be a star, mark my words.

quote of the day/night award goes to you for speaking the truth...

Edited by St. Michael (the Red Wing), 24 May 2012 - 10:48 PM.

[Red Wings Addict]

I never like to make a call on who's going to make it big but I still have high hopes for a lot of them.

Specifically, I have high legitimate top caliber hopes for:
Nyquist
Smith (top-three dman)
Tatar
Jarnkrok
Jurco

I have a little more moderated hopes for:
Mrazek (luxury backup goalie), luxury as in excellent quality for a secondary option
Sheahan (luxury third line center)
Ouellet (luxury #5 dman)

And I know I'm going to piss off a lot of people here with this statement but my intuition just doesn't sense much from Pulkkinen. Yeah yeah, I know, I'm not Jim Nill so I don't know s***. Bla bla bla.

[Konnan511]

I picked Iron Hook and Jurco. Smith will bea very good top four DMan and Nyquist I have as a formidable top six guy. Jurco has all the tools to dominate. In five years after a few seasons in the NHL and at his NHL prime playing weight, Jarnkrok will be established as a star. Funny thing though, XO I have projected as being a better player than Smith by a decent margin.

[Hockey13Playa]

Smith should be a lock, and I think Jurco will be a pretty solid player. None of the others will be considered "elite, or stars" in my opinion.

[Tim.D]

Marek Tvrdon future 2/3C. Pulkkinen will probably bust. Jurco and Jarnkrok will be good. Mrazek could be good, haven't seen much of him.

[Echolalia]

I don't see any of these guys being players that can consistently lead the team and the league in performance year after year. Smith has amazing vision and offensive prowess, so much so that I think he'll be more effective in the offensive zone than Rafalski during his prime, but his defensive game and speed will keep me from labeling him as elite.
Most of these offensive prospects I see capping around where Filppulla is about now, give or take a little. They won't look out of place on a top line if they fill their potential, but I don't think any of them will be the backbone of a top line like Zetterberg or Datsyuk are.
As for Sheahan, I was under the impression the organization projected him as a career 3rd liner. Did something amazing happen overnight without my knowing?
And I honestly don't know enough of Oullet and Mzarek to give an opinion. As far as goalies go its not even worth speculating what they'll end up doing. It's impossible to tell what goalie will be a star or a dud these days.

Edited by Echolalia, 25 May 2012 - 08:28 AM.

[number9]

Nyquist - ? - ?
Tatar - Jarnkrok - Jurco
? - Sheahan - ?
? - ? - ?

? - Smith
? - Ouellet
? - ?

?
Mrazek


Pulkkinen gets traded for not working hard enough

[Richdg]

Smith has the best shot. he could end up as high as a #2 or never make it. Sheahan will be a 4th line checking guy, Nyquist-who knows. yes he has talent, but he is also only about 175 pounds. Tatar is not really a legit NHL player, and the rest are still in juniors. No way anyone can tell on them.

[Hatethedrake!]

Mrazek. But we will have to wait at least a couple more years.

[number9]

Smith has the best shot. he could end up as high as a #2 or never make it. Sheahan will be a 4th line checking guy, Nyquist-who knows. yes he has talent, but he is also only about 175 pounds. Tatar is not really a legit NHL player, and the rest are still in juniors. No way anyone can tell on them.

175? Nyquist is 185 lbs.... and will likely put on at least 10 more pounds as he gets older, he's only 22. He'll most likely end up about the same size as Helmer, Z, and Dats....

Mrazek. But we will have to wait at least a couple more years.

Really surprised by this kid. 2 years ago he didn't look like anything to me. Good 5th round choice by the wings

Marek Tvrdon future 2/3C. Pulkkinen will probably bust. Jurco and Jarnkrok will be good. Mrazek could be good, haven't seen much of him.

if he stays healthy you may be spot on

[Hatethedrake!]

175? Nyquist is 185 lbs.... and will likely put on at least 10 more pounds as he gets older, he's only 22. He'll most likely end up about the same size as Helmer, Z, and Dats....



Really surprised by this kid. 2 years ago he didn't look like anything to me. Good 5th round choice by the wings



if he stays healthy you may be spot on

He sold me with his excellent performance in the World Juniors. He's the real deal.

[dirtydangles]

Nyquist - ? - ?
Tatar - Jarnkrok - Jurco
? - Sheahan - ?
? - ? - ?

? - Smith
? - Ouellet
? - ?

?
Mrazek


Pulkkinen gets traded for not working hard enough

sproul, back man, jensen, almqvist could also be included in the conversation of potentials for the future. I like the frame on sproul and backman, both definitely have the "tools" to be potential dmen for the future along with smith and ouellet. tvrdon can also at least project as a 3rd line power forward.

I'd love to draft that next no. 1 center this year but we don't have the pick. would be nice to maybe get a mid first for quincey and mursak/kindl or something. then draft around 15 and get something really decent.

Nyquist - ?Draft this year? - ?
Tatar - Jarnkrok - Jurco
? - Sheahan - Tvrdon
? - ? - ?

? - Smith
Sproul - Ouellet
? - Backman
Almqvist/Jensen

?
Mrazek

Edited by dirtydangles, 25 May 2012 - 01:28 PM.

[number9]

I don't see any of these guys being players that can consistently lead the team and the league in performance year after year. Smith has amazing vision and offensive prowess, so much so that I think he'll be more effective in the offensive zone than Rafalski during his prime, but his defensive game and speed will keep me from labeling him as elite.
Most of these offensive prospects I see capping around where Filppulla is about now, give or take a little. They won't look out of place on a top line if they fill their potential, but I don't think any of them will be the backbone of a top line like Zetterberg or Datsyuk are.
As for Sheahan, I was under the impression the organization projected him as a career 3rd liner. Did something amazing happen overnight without my knowing?
And I honestly don't know enough of Oullet and Mzarek to give an opinion. As far as goalies go its not even worth speculating what they'll end up doing. It's impossible to tell what goalie will be a star or a dud these days.

I've heard a lot of speculation that Jarnkrok is the next Zetterberg....obviously too soon to tell but I like that the potential is there.

As of right now Sheahan is a projected 3/4th liner....when the wings took him though I was under the impression that they thought he could have some real offensive potential if it could be developed, and in the best case scenario we turn him into another Franzen.

[Hatethedrake!]

I've heard a lot of speculation that Jarnkrok is the next Zetterberg....obviously too soon to tell but I like that the potential is there.

As of right now Sheahan is a projected 3/4th liner....when the wings took him though I was under the impression that they thought he could have some real offensive potential if it could be developed, and in the best case scenario we turn him into another Franzen.

Oh GOD NO. Not another Franzen!