ozone923 31 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Couldn't post this in prospects, and I'm new, so if this is out of context let me know. Regardless, thought this poll would be a lot of fun. "Big" means elite. I personally believe Nyquist, Jurco, Jarnkrok and Smith. Anyone seen any of these guys play as a side question? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaCkaveli20 275 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 At least one will be a star, mark my words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Just Smith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 When you say "elite", I think of star players, as in Datsyuk or Zetterberg. Based on that, the safe answer is none. 2 Nev and RedStormRising reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Depends on the definition of elite but I think we have at least three guys with potential to be top notch guys. Smith, Nyquist and Jarnkrok. Smith will have that star status because of his play style, and will be come a fan favourite. He'll snipe on the PP than turn around next shift lay a guy out and beat the s*** out of that guys team mate trying to defend him. 3 Detroit \# 1 Fan, Rick D and HadThomasVokounOnFortSt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
centcougar07 216 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Just Smith Second that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) At least one will be a star, mark my words. quote of the day/night award goes to you for speaking the truth... Edited May 25, 2012 by St. Michael (the Red Wing) 1 SaCkaveli20 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 I never like to make a call on who's going to make it big but I still have high hopes for a lot of them. Specifically, I have high legitimate top caliber hopes for: Nyquist Smith (top-three dman) Tatar Jarnkrok Jurco I have a little more moderated hopes for: Mrazek (luxury backup goalie), luxury as in excellent quality for a secondary option Sheahan (luxury third line center) Ouellet (luxury #5 dman) And I know I'm going to piss off a lot of people here with this statement but my intuition just doesn't sense much from Pulkkinen. Yeah yeah, I know, I'm not Jim Nill so I don't know s***. Bla bla bla. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 I picked Iron Hook and Jurco. Smith will bea very good top four DMan and Nyquist I have as a formidable top six guy. Jurco has all the tools to dominate. In five years after a few seasons in the NHL and at his NHL prime playing weight, Jarnkrok will be established as a star. Funny thing though, XO I have projected as being a better player than Smith by a decent margin. 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey13Playa 240 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Smith should be a lock, and I think Jurco will be a pretty solid player. None of the others will be considered "elite, or stars" in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim.D 176 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Marek Tvrdon future 2/3C. Pulkkinen will probably bust. Jurco and Jarnkrok will be good. Mrazek could be good, haven't seen much of him. 1 BUHdactyl reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) I don't see any of these guys being players that can consistently lead the team and the league in performance year after year. Smith has amazing vision and offensive prowess, so much so that I think he'll be more effective in the offensive zone than Rafalski during his prime, but his defensive game and speed will keep me from labeling him as elite. Most of these offensive prospects I see capping around where Filppulla is about now, give or take a little. They won't look out of place on a top line if they fill their potential, but I don't think any of them will be the backbone of a top line like Zetterberg or Datsyuk are. As for Sheahan, I was under the impression the organization projected him as a career 3rd liner. Did something amazing happen overnight without my knowing? And I honestly don't know enough of Oullet and Mzarek to give an opinion. As far as goalies go its not even worth speculating what they'll end up doing. It's impossible to tell what goalie will be a star or a dud these days. Edited May 25, 2012 by Echolalia 1 Hockey13Playa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Nyquist - ? - ? Tatar - Jarnkrok - Jurco ? - Sheahan - ? ? - ? - ? ? - Smith ? - Ouellet ? - ? ? Mrazek Pulkkinen gets traded for not working hard enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Smith has the best shot. he could end up as high as a #2 or never make it. Sheahan will be a 4th line checking guy, Nyquist-who knows. yes he has talent, but he is also only about 175 pounds. Tatar is not really a legit NHL player, and the rest are still in juniors. No way anyone can tell on them. 1 Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Mrazek. But we will have to wait at least a couple more years. 2 hockeygirl8 and number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Smith has the best shot. he could end up as high as a #2 or never make it. Sheahan will be a 4th line checking guy, Nyquist-who knows. yes he has talent, but he is also only about 175 pounds. Tatar is not really a legit NHL player, and the rest are still in juniors. No way anyone can tell on them. 175? Nyquist is 185 lbs.... and will likely put on at least 10 more pounds as he gets older, he's only 22. He'll most likely end up about the same size as Helmer, Z, and Dats.... Mrazek. But we will have to wait at least a couple more years. Really surprised by this kid. 2 years ago he didn't look like anything to me. Good 5th round choice by the wings Marek Tvrdon future 2/3C. Pulkkinen will probably bust. Jurco and Jarnkrok will be good. Mrazek could be good, haven't seen much of him. if he stays healthy you may be spot on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted May 25, 2012 175? Nyquist is 185 lbs.... and will likely put on at least 10 more pounds as he gets older, he's only 22. He'll most likely end up about the same size as Helmer, Z, and Dats.... Really surprised by this kid. 2 years ago he didn't look like anything to me. Good 5th round choice by the wings if he stays healthy you may be spot on He sold me with his excellent performance in the World Juniors. He's the real deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) Nyquist - ? - ? Tatar - Jarnkrok - Jurco ? - Sheahan - ? ? - ? - ? ? - Smith ? - Ouellet ? - ? ? Mrazek Pulkkinen gets traded for not working hard enough sproul, back man, jensen, almqvist could also be included in the conversation of potentials for the future. I like the frame on sproul and backman, both definitely have the "tools" to be potential dmen for the future along with smith and ouellet. tvrdon can also at least project as a 3rd line power forward. I'd love to draft that next no. 1 center this year but we don't have the pick. would be nice to maybe get a mid first for quincey and mursak/kindl or something. then draft around 15 and get something really decent. Nyquist - ?Draft this year? - ? Tatar - Jarnkrok - Jurco ? - Sheahan - Tvrdon ? - ? - ? ? - Smith Sproul - Ouellet ? - Backman Almqvist/Jensen ? Mrazek Edited May 25, 2012 by dirtydangles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 I don't see any of these guys being players that can consistently lead the team and the league in performance year after year. Smith has amazing vision and offensive prowess, so much so that I think he'll be more effective in the offensive zone than Rafalski during his prime, but his defensive game and speed will keep me from labeling him as elite. Most of these offensive prospects I see capping around where Filppulla is about now, give or take a little. They won't look out of place on a top line if they fill their potential, but I don't think any of them will be the backbone of a top line like Zetterberg or Datsyuk are. As for Sheahan, I was under the impression the organization projected him as a career 3rd liner. Did something amazing happen overnight without my knowing? And I honestly don't know enough of Oullet and Mzarek to give an opinion. As far as goalies go its not even worth speculating what they'll end up doing. It's impossible to tell what goalie will be a star or a dud these days. I've heard a lot of speculation that Jarnkrok is the next Zetterberg....obviously too soon to tell but I like that the potential is there. As of right now Sheahan is a projected 3/4th liner....when the wings took him though I was under the impression that they thought he could have some real offensive potential if it could be developed, and in the best case scenario we turn him into another Franzen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted May 25, 2012 I've heard a lot of speculation that Jarnkrok is the next Zetterberg....obviously too soon to tell but I like that the potential is there. As of right now Sheahan is a projected 3/4th liner....when the wings took him though I was under the impression that they thought he could have some real offensive potential if it could be developed, and in the best case scenario we turn him into another Franzen. Oh GOD NO. Not another Franzen! 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Some of them might surprise us, but I'm going to say that Jurco and Smith have the right combination size, speed, and skill to be real good at the NHL level. Nyquist and Jarnkrok have the skill but it remains to be seen whether or not they'll be able to beef up enough to be effective in the league. The rest aren't far enough along in their development for me to say one way or the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Had to go blue adams on everybody haha....this is my best case scenario for 7 years in the future...assuming we had zero FA's of course Nyquist - Jarnkrok - Jurco Tatar - Filppula - Sheahan Tvrdon - Helm - Eaves Miller - Andersson - Abdelkader Emmerton Mursak Smith - White Quincey - Ouellet Ericsson - Sproul Marchenko Kindl Howard Mrazek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) I'd go with the following for my blueadams line prediction 7 years from now assuming no trades and lids retires : Nyquist - To be Drafted - Jurco Filppula - Jarnkrok - Pulkkinen Tvrdon - Sheahan - Tatar Abby - Helm - Eaves Ouellet - Smith Ericsson - Sproul Backman - Jensen Almquist Funny to think that 4th line will be kinda veteran lol. But I like the idea of a veteran 4th line just cause they know when to bring the energy etc. As for that no. 1 centre, I'd look at: - Move up in the draft and nab Faksa/Girgensons/Gaunce/Herti/Osnovin/Karlsson anything better I doubt we could get. Forsberg would be perfect (6'2 right shot) but we could never move up that far imo. What would it take? Edited May 25, 2012 by dirtydangles 2 number9 and Shaman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozone923 31 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Oh GOD NO. Not another Franzen! I'd take another Franzen a thousand times over. You can throw away that pretty piece of metal from '08 if he's not there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 I'd take another Franzen a thousand times over. You can throw away that pretty piece of metal from '08 if he's not there. Yes, 1 great post season. but hey, we get to watch and remember that for 8 more seasons...... length of the terrible contract he is signed to........ 1 Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
