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#1 Diluvian04

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:08 PM

Jim Matheson reports Red Wings GM Ken Holland is believed eyeing potential UFAs Ryan Suter (Nashville) and Zach Parise (New Jersey) if they aren’t re-signed by their respective clubs, and would be willing to trade for their negotiating rights. He also observed an “intriguing” trade proposal from the web  in which “the Washington Capitals trading Mike Green and centre Brooks Laich to the Red Wings for Johan Franzen, Darren Helm and (Jakub) Kindl”

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:14 PM

I think Helm's speed and penalty kill abilities are too valuable to include him in the trade. I don't have a problem trading the Mule or Kindl though. As far as Washington's end of the deal not sure if I would want that gamble or not on Mike Green, he's been really held back lately with injuries. As far as Laich goes, I don't know too much about his game but from the small samples I've seen he's not to bad, but as the deal stands I would say No thanks.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:41 PM

I would consider Laich and Green for Franzen and Kindl

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:42 PM

No way Babs loves Helm and said the bottom 6 was messed up without him when Helm was hurt
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:42 PM

I'd think on that offer sans Helm. He's just way too important a player right now. There's got to be somebody else of similar 'value' the Wings could include.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:45 PM

Abby?
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:49 PM

Ew not a chance.
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:55 PM

We would be even softer without Helm so really doubt this would happen.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:58 PM

Guys like Helm aren't uncommon, but he fits so well here, it'd take a lot for me to trade him. I'd say he's the 3rd most important forward behind Datsyuk and Zetterberg. He drives the bottom 2 lines, as already stated. Miller was useless without him late in the season, and Helm's line was the Wings' best on a lot of nights (far too many, really).
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 07:01 PM

No way, Helm is the deal breaker... There has to be a young prospect that could be thrown in there instead. I don't mind trading Kindl or Franzen, but I say no to trading Helm...Would they take Abby in his place? I would hate to trade him either, but if it is down to one or the other, Abby has to be the one...

This would be something though: Trade for Green and Laich, sign Vokoun, Wideman & Semin... (that is if Suter and Parise fall through) that would weird acquiring 5 NEW players all from the same team! Although Suter and Parise seem to be the #1 priorities, I think if Holland landed those 5 listed, it wouldn't be so bad....Add Doan to the mix as well, I think we are sitting pretty good, even if we lost out on Suter & Parise, then next year, throw the basket at Weber! Slap! Ok, Ok, I am awake now...thanks!

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 08:40 PM

No way, Helm is the deal breaker... There has to be a young prospect that could be thrown in there instead. I don't mind trading Kindl or Franzen, but I say no to trading Helm...Would they take Abby in his place? I would hate to trade him either, but if it is down to one or the other, Abby has to be the one...

This would be something though: Trade for Green and Laich, sign Vokoun, Wideman & Semin... (that is if Suter and Parise fall through) that would weird acquiring 5 NEW players all from the same team! Although Suter and Parise seem to be the #1 priorities, I think if Holland landed those 5 listed, it wouldn't be so bad....Add Doan to the mix as well, I think we are sitting pretty good, even if we lost out on Suter & Parise, then next year, throw the basket at Weber! Slap! Ok, Ok, I am awake now...thanks!

I totally agree. If this was even Abby, Franzen and Kindl I'd want it done but Helm is essential to this team.
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 08:43 PM

not dealing Helm

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 08:44 PM

Make it Abby instead of Helm and then yes, that would be a fantastic deal for us. But I really don't think Kenny is going to make a trade unless he misses out on one of or both of Suter and Parise.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 09:02 PM

I would trade Helm, Franzen, Kindl for Laich and Carlson, want nothing to do with Green.
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:00 PM

I don't see this trade helping either team that much.

Franzen is a lazy idiot, but trading him is stupid unless we get an offensive scorer going the other way. What if we don't get Parise? Then we'll have even less reliable scoring at forward than before.

And Washington would be trading their best offensive defenseman for Kindl?
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:15 PM

Green: health issues and inconsistent
Laich: were already deep at center
Helm: will never be traded

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:24 PM

No way.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:25 PM

We're already slow enough lol.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:26 PM

Green: health issues and inconsistent
Laich: were already deep at center
Helm: will never be traded


That could go either way.

Franzen also has health issues and is inconsistent. Also, he's older than the other players.

And we're not that deep at center, especially if Helm is traded. Emmerton was a regular center for us last year for Pete's sake.

And Kindl didn't seem to progress that much.

Green is a right handed shot and could compliment Suter well if we get him. Laich is a solid performer and plays hard (also born on the same day and year as me :D ).

I don't think the trade is unfair, but I'm not entirely sold on it. Like I said above, if we don't get Parise, we'd be getting rid of another top 6 forward in Franzen with nothing similar in return.

Throw in Erskine for good faith. It'll make me feel better. :hehe:

Edited by GMRwings1983, 03 June 2012 - 10:33 PM.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:06 PM

How about Franzen for the rights to Semin? Anything to get rid of the god awful length of that contract. Then just let Semin walk if he wants anymore than 4M.

Edited by redwingfan19, 03 June 2012 - 11:07 PM.

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