Guest mjtm77 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Suter wanted to come to Detroit... Parise didn't... Suter signs wherever Parise wans to go. These guys don't give a s*** about winning they just want to get paid and have fun. I'm sorry but this is just the way that American born players are. The stanley cup isn't their end all be all. It's weird cause most other nations are passionate about the cup but it seems as time goes on players are choosing $$ and lifestyle over being a champion lol ima laugh so hard if minny wins a cup before the wings. Btw your wrong it is not all about the cup even if it was you shoud give your head a shake, the wings are not a lock to win it every year like people think they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Suter wanted to come to Detroit... Parise didn't... Suter signs wherever Parise wans to go. These guys don't give a s*** about winning they just want to get paid and have fun. I'm sorry but this is just the way that American born players are. The stanley cup isn't their end all be all. It's weird cause most other nations are passionate about the cup but it seems as time goes on players are choosing $$ and lifestyle over being a champion I should've instituted an IQ test in order to allow you to post. 4 Danielsm, LidsFan, Tman77 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) Semin is NOT better than Parise. In terms of pure, raw talent, yes. But in every other way, no. Trade for a power-forward, Kenny. Do The Right Thing. Edited July 4, 2012 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 This decision has nothing to do with how the team was shaped. In no way Holland's fault. These two guys weren't passionate about winning cups or being part of a dynasty. This wasn't a hockey decision. Suter will have to go down as the gayest FA signing. Chasing his bf around to whichever team he chooses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Kronwall-Ericsson Quincey-White Smith-Kindl 1 Zonly1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Suter wanted to come to Detroit... Parise didn't... Suter signs wherever Parise wans to go. These guys don't give a s*** about winning they just want to get paid and have fun. I'm sorry but this is just the way that American born players are. The stanley cup isn't their end all be all. It's weird cause most other nations are passionate about the cup but it seems as time goes on players are choosing $$ and lifestyle over being a champion Who cares where either of them are from? They want to get paid. They're allowed to do that. Get over it. 2 MidMichSteve and T-Ruff reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Suter wanted to come to Detroit... Parise didn't... Suter signs wherever Parise wans to go. These guys don't give a s*** about winning they just want to get paid and have fun. I'm sorry but this is just the way that American born players are. The stanley cup isn't their end all be all. It's weird cause most other nations are passionate about the cup but it seems as time goes on players are choosing $$ and lifestyle over being a champion Anyone want to guess where this guy is from? Apology not accepted. Ass. 1 WingZNut13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Trade for Yandle! Get it done Kenny! 2 pondrocket and LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 We'll be fine. With 16 forwards under contract (counting Abby and nyq), we've been setting up for a trade just in case. Excited to see what we do. Kenny has to have something up his sleeve. Weber rights? Yandle? One of those or something similar plus signing semin and it's a good offseason in my book.. We'll see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Girardi or bust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YougotDatsyuked 24 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Kronwall-Ericsson Quincey-White Smith-Kindl I just threw up my 12 beers reading this, thanks. 1 Pasha13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 I will agree with you that they should have done more before now, but at the same time kindle was suppose to be the guy. Unfortunately he probably is never gonna be better than a 5 or 6 dman. But to fire holland that is outrageous even if the last few years were not his best work. Let's sit back and see his next moves. If he signs carle and says we like our team then maybe we need to start considering that it is time to bring THE captain back. Kindl being a bust has been known since his time in GR. Holland has since 2009 failed to make this team better. Last season everyone justified it with 'well next season Suter' now Detroit has 2 options overpay or not contend. 2 LidsFan and AtomicPunk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Now it's time for Kenny to show what he can do... TRADES... NOTE: Stay AWAY from CARLE and SEMIN (longterm). We still have some puck moving DEF: Kronwall - White - Smith - Quincey - Kindl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cupcrazy 13 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Kenny your 4th is over now, time to sign whats left before we are left with nothing. I figured this when llitch had nothing to say to media at airport yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Boo Suter everytime he's at the Joe!! esteef 2 Tman77 and SaCkaveli20 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pondrocket 35 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 I would keep an eye out for any client of Sheehy. I genuinely believe that he re-directed Sutter's interest. It's his job to rep the client, but I think his advise was more about Neil contributing to MN program then wat will bring the best combination of short & long term opportunities for Sutter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mjtm77 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) LOL!! That's too funny. I couldnt care less we didn't get Suter. I'm assuming you're a minny fan, so I'm glad they overpaid for him rather than us. Do we need help, did we need him? Absolutely. To be tied to a ridiculous contract though for 13 years, at probably 7.5 million or so a year... nobody needs that. It's ridiculous. It's not about not getting my way... i dont care. It's about teams, using 13 year deals, that will never been seen through, simply to pay a guy a massive signing bonus to lure him to the team, and spread it over a stupid long contract, a contract that will never see the end of its term. As I said, its not right IMO, we've done it in Detroit, and I'm still complaining about it. So... your post is worthless. Thanks. nope I am a huge Redwings fan. its just I dont think that every player wants to sighn here because we are "prestige". And your being a hypocrite if sutur signed here none of you guys would be saying s*** about the fact his contract is 13 years. Edited July 4, 2012 by mjtm77 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YougotDatsyuked 24 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Kindl being a bust has been known since his time in GR. Holland has since 2009 failed to make this team better. Last season everyone justified it with 'well next season Suter' now Detroit has 2 options overpay or not contend. I won't argue that point. Hopefully Smith is the cats meow this season as a rookie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim.D 176 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 I wouldn't have wanted Suter at that cap hit. Yuck. He's not even a top-5 defenceman in the league. 2 Jesusberg and Glubki reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Girardi or bust. I don't think he wants to quit managing the Yankees, but you never know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Shows you how far the franchise has fallen, that the Wild outbid us. We should just trade for Trevor Gillies, and instruct him to take out Suter and Parise every time we play them. They're both dead to me. 2 Dominator2005 and esteef reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hankzet40 233 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Kinda glad Detroit didn't sink that ridiculous coin into a guy who could have been carried by Weber this whole time. Speaking of Weber, might as well throw him an offer sheet now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Nashville has stated they will match any offer sheet....I really don't know what were going to do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Shows you how far the franchise has fallen, that the Wild outbid us. We should just trade for Trevor Gillies, and instruct him to take out Suter and Parise every time we play them. They're both dead to me. Sad but true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Semin/Nash/Weber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
