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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:14 PM
I think you are asking two unique question here, with different answers.
Who was the better Wing? Yzerman
Who was the better player? Lidstrom
Who was the better Wing? Yzerman
Who was the better player? Lidstrom
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:33 PM
I think you are asking two unique question here, with different answers.
Who was the better Wing? Yzerman
Who was the better player? Lidstrom
I totally agree with this. On pure hockey ability and skill, Lidstrom comes out on top. But the best Wing? Yzerman showed up for this team in any manner that they needed him consistently and reliably for over twenty years. Lidstrom was a great leader, but Stevie was The Captain. Love them both, and am honored that I got to grow up watching them play for my team.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:47 PM
Stevie Y.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:52 PM
Better Wing Y
Better Player Perfect human you aren't getting that title without bringing it every night over two decades.
That said I am so spoiled and honored because these two defined the rise of the Wings and are were the type of Cs every GM and coach is dreaming off.
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Better Player Perfect human you aren't getting that title without bringing it every night over two decades.
That said I am so spoiled and honored because these two defined the rise of the Wings and are were the type of Cs every GM and coach is dreaming off.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:52 PM
Lotta love for Stevie, but Lidstrom by a mile.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 10:20 PM
I think you are asking two unique question here, with different answers.
Who was the better Wing? Yzerman
Who was the better player? Lidstrom
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 10:26 PM
To me Stevie was great. He was a great player, a great leader and even a better person. BUT, Nick Lidstrom is slightly a step up in that he was never phased, was always on his A game whether he was 25, 30 or 42... the guy simply always had it. I have went to several Red Wings games in my short 21 year life, and I can honestly say that anytime number 5 came on the ice I felt safe, I felt like there was nothing the team had to worry about because he simply did everything perfectly and so effortlessly. More then that, he was literally ALWAYS there.
As you guys have said, we are spoiled to even be able to have this debate in the first place, but for me Lidstrom was the guy who I always idolized growing up and I met him 4 times and he was just such a nice guy. I cried when Stevie Y retired and I cried harder when Nick retired... it is like losing a family member. Lets just be thankful we have so many great memories of both of these greats.
As you guys have said, we are spoiled to even be able to have this debate in the first place, but for me Lidstrom was the guy who I always idolized growing up and I met him 4 times and he was just such a nice guy. I cried when Stevie Y retired and I cried harder when Nick retired... it is like losing a family member. Lets just be thankful we have so many great memories of both of these greats.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 10:52 PM
If we are just talking best Wing and not best player, I'd be curious to see if there is a generational difference with the older fans leaning toward Stevie and the younger fans leaning toward Lids. I was talking to my 11 year old cousin about Stevie and growing up watching him and my cousin just couldn't fathom that anyone could be a more important Wing than Lids.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 10:54 PM
Lids. Hands down. Seven Norris Trophies that should have been 10. Yzerman never won any best forward trophies other than a Selke.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:09 AM
Yzerman had supreme skill, but lidstrom almost seemed immune to mistakes. He did everything right on and off the ice. Yzerman was a better captain, but I think lidstrom filled the void beautifully.
Lidstrom wins it.
Side note: any other team would die to have these 2 guys to pick from
Lidstrom wins it.
Side note: any other team would die to have these 2 guys to pick from
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:22 AM
Yzerman did have his twilight years. Lidstrom could've played to 45 and still be a top 5 defensemen. So I'd say Lidstrom due to consistency over a long period of time.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:27 AM
Stevie Y...
Stevie Y...
Stevie Y...
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:30 AM
I think you are asking two unique question here, with different answers.
Who was the better Wing? Yzerman
Who was the better player? Lidstrom
This. Lidstrom is the second best defenceman of all time. Yzerman wasn't even the second best center of his era.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:13 AM
I've been staring at this poll thinking for a while now and I don't think I can choose between the two. can it be a draw?
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:31 AM
i have to go with stevie....he was clutch, a motivator by heart, a hero to a town,an inspiration to a generation.
he taught perseverance.
lidstrom showed us what a true leader should be, a consummate professional, and a legend to the game.
he taught excellence.
its a hard call.
when its family...you shouldn't have to choose.
he taught perseverance.
lidstrom showed us what a true leader should be, a consummate professional, and a legend to the game.
he taught excellence.
its a hard call.
when its family...you shouldn't have to choose.
Dino Ciccarelli will always be #1
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:45 AM
when its family...you shouldn't have to choose.
perfectly said.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 03:58 AM
Lids. Hands down. Seven Norris Trophies that should have been 10. Yzerman never won any best forward trophies other than a Selke.
This had nothing to do with the fact Yzerman shared his prime with the two greatest forwards ever in Gretzky and Lemieux? He would have had the most points in 88 and 89 if not for the two greatest players of all time.
Lemieux had 199 points, Gretzky had 168, and Yzerman ONLY had a punie 155 points that season. Yzerman scored over a 100 points a season six years in a row. Had he not shared his prime with those two he would have had a lot more hardware.
This. Lidstrom is the second best defenceman of all time. Yzerman wasn't even the second best center of his era.
No he was the 3rd behind Gretzky and Lemieux
Edited by cupcrazy, 17 October 2012 - 04:03 AM.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 04:38 AM
Yzerman for me.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 09:14 AM
This had nothing to do with the fact Yzerman shared his prime with the two greatest forwards ever in Gretzky and Lemieux? He would have had the most points in 88 and 89 if not for the two greatest players of all time.
Lemieux had 199 points, Gretzky had 168, and Yzerman ONLY had a punie 155 points that season. Yzerman scored over a 100 points a season six years in a row. Had he not shared his prime with those two he would have had a lot more hardware.
Well being 3 behind these two is still an incredible large accomplishment if you ask me. In terms of overall awarness to he has been more complete than both all time greats.
And I'd rank the perfect human easily above Bourque
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Edited by frankgrimes, 17 October 2012 - 09:16 AM.
Thank you so much perfect human being #5
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