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It'd be fun to watch, no doubt. New Jersey is desperately looking for offense. I think they'd pull the trigger on a deal like that. Would it be worth it for us? Volchenkov is only 30, so he's got a few solid years left in him. Also, he's a Russian native, so Datsyuk could feel a little more at home.

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Plus as good as Nyquist is, he's a bit redundant for us at center (especially with Jarnkrok showing solid development), and if Brunner turns out then Nyquist is less valuable on the wing. I'd do Nyquist and a 2nd for Volchenkov. But then again, I'm sure I'm in the minority.

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I like the idea of Brenden Morrow at the deadline.

I liked this last deadline....and the draft....and all summer long. I forget who it was but they cursed me up and down when suggesting trade Franzen for Morrow....I know Franzen may be worth a bit more than Morrow, but I think with what this team needs is a Morrow type player. Heck it would take less then that is even better! Get Morrow here for sure! He would sure be a help!

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Volchenkov would be a great addition. Shot-blocking machine, him.

Just had a look at their defensive roster. Given the amount of shutdown d-men they have it probably wouldn't even take Nyquist to get them to come off of him. Maybe Tatar and a 2nd.

Or Tatar and Kindl.

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I'm with you, Kip. However, I'm sure we're the minority in this case.

Throw me into the mix as well.

I've liked him since he was a Sen.

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I really like idea of bringing Dmitry Kulikov to Detroit. He's only 22 years old. I haven't watched enough of him to really say how defensively sound he is. Definitely has some offensive upside. 28 points in 58 games last year. On top of all that, his presence may make Datsyuk feel a little more at home, since Kulikov is Russian.

I'd be on board with this too. Big fan of what I've seen from Kulikov.

So why would Florida get rid of him?

They seem to be having a lot of trouble signing him in Florida. Kulikov is a RFA and hasn't even left Russia yet. Apparently, his agent and Florida management haven't even spoken in over two days. I can't imagine what the price tag on him would be, but I'd love him here.

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Just had a look at their defensive roster. Given the amount of shutdown d-men they have it probably wouldn't even take Nyquist to get them to come off of him. Maybe Tatar and a 2nd.

Or Tatar and Kindl.

With some of the other potential top 6 forwards the Wings have in the system (Jarnkrok, Pulkkinen, Jurco, Frk, & I would add Sheahan as a tweener able to jump between centering the 3rd & 2nd ultimately) I wouldn't mind it if the Wings had to give up a Tatar or Nyquist for more defense. I still think defense is where the Wing's prospect pool is the weakest & like some people, I won't count on DeKeyser signing in Detroit in the off-season.

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I don't see Tallon letting Kulikov get away. Too valuable to that franchise, IMO.

But, should things not work out...I'd stuff my face with crow if Holland somehow got ahold of him and/or Volchenkov.

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Neither am I, that's why I wouldn't be too upset if Holland moved him for Volchenkov...or Bogosian once he gets healthy.

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i would take volchenkov for nyquist or tatar + kindl+ pick

i dont see any trades for bogosian though unless its mule or smith for him

I was high on nyquist but it doesnt look like hes going to make it in the nhl same with tatar

with volchenkov our defense would go from D to B+

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I can see Holland holding on to our expendable pieces until the deadline. Emmerton, Mursak, Tatar, Nyquist and Kindl can all be used in package deal for a great defensemen. Holland will wait until the deadline and a team looking to rebuild.

Would you trade Nyquist, Emmerton and Kindl + picks for Iginla and J Bou for a playoff run?

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Brunner

Franzen-Flippula-Iginla

Bertuzzi-Helm-Cleary

Tootoo-Abdelkader-Eaves

Ericsson-Kronwall

J Bou-Smith

White-Coliavacio

I had this idea pop into my head today, too, and, even though I realize that it doesn't pencil out, I still can't get it out of my head. Although I sorta through in Quincey and Sammy going to Calgary also as part of the 5 for 2 old time blockbuster trade, and thus had Smith pairing with Bouwmester. That team could do some damage. Talk about rolling four lines, look the f*** out!

Oh well, maybe in the old days...but not with the new cap world math.

Regardless, I'm really hoping Ericsson takes the next step and becomes ERock! He's been here long enough, he's getting paid enough, we sure need him enough, the time has come.

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I can see Holland holding on to our expendable pieces until the deadline. Emmerton, Mursak, Tatar, Nyquist and Kindl can all be used in package deal for a great defensemen. Holland will wait until the deadline and a team looking to rebuild.

Would you trade Nyquist, Emmerton and Kindl + picks for Iginla and J Bou for a playoff run?

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Brunner

Franzen-Flippula-Iginla

Bertuzzi-Helm-Cleary

Tootoo-Abdelkader-Eaves

Ericsson-Kronwall

J Bou-Quincey

White-Coliavacio

I have to say....this peaked my interest.

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Im in love with Nyquist unless we're playing San Jose, St. Louis, etc.

Then again I had the same feeling about Pavs before 2007, when he became the toughest Red Wing on the roster imo.

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Lol no kidding

point is Nyquist won't be very effective against big hitting teams, but he won't improve if he doesn't gain more experience against those teams. Still think signing Sammy wasn't a bright move for Kenny to make, esp. when you have guys that have reached their max potential in the minors and need to get into the Major league.

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Lol no kidding

point is Nyquist won't be very effective against big hitting teams, but he won't improve if he doesn't gain more experience against those teams. Still think signing Sammy wasn't a bright move for Kenny to make, esp. when you have guys that have reached their max potential in the minors and need to get into the Major league.

Put him on the same line with any of Lucic/Horton/Clowe/Hartnell/Backes...etc... and he will be effective

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I don't care what Illitch does with his money, as long as it results in a bolstered defence

and a Tigers World Series Championship

Call me crazy but I think the D isn't as bad as people think. Quincey, Smith, Kindl, and Ericsson are all over 6'0, Kronwall has people keeping their heads up, and White and Carlo chip in with skill.

You'd have to think Smith and Kindl are going to get better, Quincey was a very solid pick up, and Ericsson, as people have said in another discussion, played very well the last 2/3 of the season. Then there's Kronwall and White, we know what they're capable of.

Seriously, who could we get that's better than Kronwall, Quincey, Ericsson, White, or Smith without selling the farm? Defensemen, just like starting pitching in Baseball, are way over priced.

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